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Apple Obsoletes Select Early 2008 to Late 2009 Macs
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Yeah, you're on your own there mate. I can't imagine using my G5 now, 14 years later, when i've got retina screens, USB 3, Thunderbolt 2 and 32gb of ram all used on a daily basis. Not only that, but upgrading is almost a hobby in itself, you only live once!
That's all well and good but your computer is not obsolete, it is vintage. so, in current day vernacular, it's cool.
Lol, well it was right before they made the one with the super tapered edges & it doesn't have USB 3.0, soooo I guess it's "outdated", but with a gorgeous 2K screen & top notch performance, to me... even "vintage" seems a bit the stretch.
Makes you wonder if todays Apple products will have a shorter lifespan in total than the older items.
Old items, can be easily unscrewed bits replaced or upgraded (rare in the case of Apple products) but still possible.
Todays items are glued shut and even sabotaged internally from any upgrades.
Be interesting to see the total lifespan Apple puts on most of todays products.
Old items, can be easily unscrewed bits replaced or upgraded (rare in the case of Apple products) but still possible.
Todays items are glued shut and even sabotaged internally from any upgrades.
Be interesting to see the total lifespan Apple puts on most of todays products.
And if I can actually put Snow Leopard back on her, she would totally leave the new ones in her wake.
I used to think this but really I'm not so sure anymore.
You can buy a nice windows laptop which works fine for the typical user, keep it well looked after and sell it.
Of course you will lose some money due to age and new models.
You can of course buy a MacBook, for perhaps 2x or 3x the price, and yes, it may be easy to sell, but you seem to lose quite a lot as you have to drop the price a lot down from Apples refurb price to get anyone interested.
Money wise I'm not sure which is better.
I initially brought her in on November 7 due to the iMac displaying dead lines on the screen for a few days and finally not displaying anything.
The original quote was $192.04 for the display card, $39 for labor and nothing else.
When I got my iMac back on November 15, they told me the logic board was replaced and they had covered that cost ($544.32)
It was brought back home and it did not correct the issue so I hauled her back to have them take a look again.
This time, they told me that they are gonna replace the display because they see some dead pixels and such. The cost for the display was $510.23 and the labor was $39. But they told me they would cover the cost because I had to bring her back in again for the same issue.
When I went to pick her up again on November 28, I was told the logic board was replaced again (Another $544.32) on top of the display ($510.23), and the labor ($39).
They covered everything except the display card.
So my out of pocket cost was $192.04 + $39 = $231.04
But they covered $544.32 x 2 + 510.23 + $39 = $1637.87
So, there was the cost break down.
Good luck to you.
I've got the same machine and have the same plan. It still runs great. I can only see myself dumping it soon if I trade with my brother for his 2009 MP.
Well, they have in a way. I've seen perfectly good Macs turned into snails by Mavericks. Yosemite and El Capitan have been a little better for me.
The '08 model has been vintage for some time and received at least one OS upgrade during that time. I think it's only a problem when it becomes obsolete.
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Of course. Because the only support that exists is being able to get parts replaced.
Yeah but that wasn't the point. The original person was complaining about making the original iPod obsolete and still using spinning drives. It was just the hypocrisy of the comment.
My MBP 13' late 2009 will be obsolete next year, I bet. It runs purrfect on Lion. I'm afraid to even update it to El Capitan. Saving for a new iMac and Macbook.
Something to note people, there are options for vintage and obsolete Macs if you're not lucky enough to have purchased your Mac in California or Turkey.
https://locate.apple.com and click on the top right box "Service." Fill in your local details and Apple will show you AASP (Apple Authorized Service Providers) and Apple Stores. The key thing here are the AASPs. Typically they'll do repairs on Vintage and Obsolete Macs with their channel of third party and used / new OEM parts to repair your Mac (which may or may not work out depending on your repair).
https://locate.apple.com and click on the top right box "Service." Fill in your local details and Apple will show you AASP (Apple Authorized Service Providers) and Apple Stores. The key thing here are the AASPs. Typically they'll do repairs on Vintage and Obsolete Macs with their channel of third party and used / new OEM parts to repair your Mac (which may or may not work out depending on your repair).
My SE/30's been "obsolete" for decades, but it's still in service along side my Newton:
http://www.cultofmac.com/3986/the-s...terview-with-an-expert-vintage-mac-user/3986/
It's all in what you do with it, which is why I decided to swap out the spinning-platter HDD in my late 2009 QuadCore iMac11,1 recently with a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 SSD. Wow. It's like having a new Mac, yet for a price that won't break the bank. You can read more about that upgrade experience here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7336927
My early 2009 iMac9,1 at the office didn't fare so well, though. It's DuoCore processor became long in the tooth a couple years ago. I continued using it until last month, as painful as it was. We still have it at the office. Even with an SSD upgrade, it still feels like wading through mud. Not so with the QuadCore iMac11,1 though. It's a night and day difference, and with the 1TB SSD, it's a very powerful and useful machine.
I recently got a new iMac17,1 (5K Skylake) at the office. The machine is fully spec'd with 1TB SSD and the best CPU and GPU, along with 32GB of OWC RAM. The machine is MacIIfx style "wicked fast." But honestly, a lot of that performance comes from the GPU. You would expect the CPU to be on order of multiple times faster than my 2009 QuadCore, but it isn't. It's fast. And I mean really fast! But t's not as fast as you would expect after all these years. Intel has clearly run up against a wall on CPU development, which explains why Skylake was delayed for so long. I doubt if they will debut Cannonlake even in 2017, at this pace.
Twenty years hence all our hottest tech today will be laughably slow compared to the quantum computers we'll likely be using at that time. And probably a decade after that they'll figure out how to put quantum computing in the palm of your hand. Probably won't have teleporters or phasers, but you can't have it all, I guess.
http://www.cultofmac.com/3986/the-s...terview-with-an-expert-vintage-mac-user/3986/
It's all in what you do with it, which is why I decided to swap out the spinning-platter HDD in my late 2009 QuadCore iMac11,1 recently with a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 SSD. Wow. It's like having a new Mac, yet for a price that won't break the bank. You can read more about that upgrade experience here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7336927
My early 2009 iMac9,1 at the office didn't fare so well, though. It's DuoCore processor became long in the tooth a couple years ago. I continued using it until last month, as painful as it was. We still have it at the office. Even with an SSD upgrade, it still feels like wading through mud. Not so with the QuadCore iMac11,1 though. It's a night and day difference, and with the 1TB SSD, it's a very powerful and useful machine.
I recently got a new iMac17,1 (5K Skylake) at the office. The machine is fully spec'd with 1TB SSD and the best CPU and GPU, along with 32GB of OWC RAM. The machine is MacIIfx style "wicked fast." But honestly, a lot of that performance comes from the GPU. You would expect the CPU to be on order of multiple times faster than my 2009 QuadCore, but it isn't. It's fast. And I mean really fast! But t's not as fast as you would expect after all these years. Intel has clearly run up against a wall on CPU development, which explains why Skylake was delayed for so long. I doubt if they will debut Cannonlake even in 2017, at this pace.
Twenty years hence all our hottest tech today will be laughably slow compared to the quantum computers we'll likely be using at that time. And probably a decade after that they'll figure out how to put quantum computing in the palm of your hand. Probably won't have teleporters or phasers, but you can't have it all, I guess.
Only Apple knows for sure but I would be surprised if 2008 wouldn't support at least 10.12. After that its everybody guess...
While Mavericks is somewhat slower than Mountain Lion on old Macs Yosemite is even worse and unless Apple improves El Capitan substantially it is only slightly better. My old iMac will likely stay permanently in Mavericks because newer OS versions are too slow.
They have totally stomped on the brakes on my 09 iMac with the i7 and 32GB of RAM as soon as I put Yosemite on her...
So I am very reluctant to go to El Capitan...
Especially I did see how the iPad 3's fate with iOS 7 comparing to iOS 6...
Currently selling a Mac Pro 1,1, flashed to 2,1, 6GB RAM, upgraded 5565 SLAEG processors, with the Tiamo bootloader that allows me to run 64 bit EFI OSs', such as El Capitan, and do it well. I'll get $300 for it, I bought it three years ago for $400.
It's being replaced with a BTO Mac Pro 3,1 that has an Apple RAID controller, 4-300TB SAS drives, an SSD in one of the optical drive slots and 16GB RAM that set me back $300. This runs flawlessly with current OSs' (El Capitan presently) and all of my current Mac software.
Both of these were/are used with 23" Cinema Displays that cost me $100/each from a surplus house.
Call it legacy hardware, but it is built like a brick doghouse and performs up to and beyond my expectations/needs for now. I can't imagine using anything else.
Obsolete? Sure. Still relevant? Absolutely.
MacDann
It's being replaced with a BTO Mac Pro 3,1 that has an Apple RAID controller, 4-300TB SAS drives, an SSD in one of the optical drive slots and 16GB RAM that set me back $300. This runs flawlessly with current OSs' (El Capitan presently) and all of my current Mac software.
Both of these were/are used with 23" Cinema Displays that cost me $100/each from a surplus house.
Call it legacy hardware, but it is built like a brick doghouse and performs up to and beyond my expectations/needs for now. I can't imagine using anything else.
Obsolete? Sure. Still relevant? Absolutely.
MacDann
Apple has updated its vintage and obsolete products list with various older products that have not been manufactured for at least five years, including select Macs manufactured between early 2008 and late 2009, the second-generation Time Capsule and the 32GB original iPod touch.
Apple products on the vintage and obsolete list are no longer eligible for hardware service, with a few exceptions. Apple defines vintage products as those that have not been manufactured for more than five and less than seven years ago, while obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago.
Only the new additions are reflected below.
Macintosh products vintage in the U.S. and Turkey and obsolete in Asia-Pacific, Canada, Europe, Japan, and Latin America
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2009)
MacBook Air (Mid 2009)
Mac Pro (Early 2009)
Time Capsule 802.11n (2nd generation)
Macintosh products obsolete in the U.S., Asia-Pacific, Canada, Europe, Japan, and Latin America
Apple Cinema Display (23-inch, DVI, Early 2007)
Apple Cinema Display (30-inch DVI)
MacBook (13-inch, Early 2008)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008)
MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008)
Time Capsule 802.11n (1st generation)
iPod products obsolete in the U.S., Asia-Pacific, Canada, Europe, Japan, and Latin America
iPod touch with Jan SW UPG 32GB
Article Link: Apple Obsoletes Select Early 2008 to Late 2009 Macs
I have a 15" MacBook Pro early 2008. I have a split memory storage disk; one for SnowLeopard, the other for El Capitan. I had a new motherboard put in by Apple December 2013. Works great!
Not a reasonable assumption to make at all. There are machines running El Capitan that were running Mavericks when they were placed on the Vintage/Obsolete lists.
As has been explained many times over, this list has to do with a specific time clock, strictly based on the date of last manufacture, NOT on the technical capabilities of the machine. Software compatibility has traditionally been based on the hardware's technical capabilities, not the presence (or absence) of the model on the Vintage and Obsolete products list.
Apple and all (or most) consumer goods manufacturers maintain a list of this sort, in part due to various consumer laws around the world. These laws exist to combat planned obsolescence and/or to protect companies from law suits regarding planned obsolescence. The manufacturers are typically required to maintain a supply of replacement parts for a minimum time period. By publishing lists of this sort, the companies are setting out the limits of their responsibility for supplying parts and accepting products for repair. Period.