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This is disgusting. One thing is to do this, another thing is to stand with straight face and say that 'we treat each developer the same'
Really not genuine! Shame on you Apple
If you provide video streaming service, you get offered the same deal.
 
This doesn't align with what Apple is saying they are doing, and that is the only thing I think these companies are doing wrong. I do think someone like Amazon that brings a lot to the table should get a better rate that someone that brings very little value to Apple. What they did wrong, was lie about it.

In almost any business deals like this are done.
 
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So amazon gets special treatment, I guess not all apps are treated the same on the App Store like Apple claims
 
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I dont think that's what most people are arguing. Apple says they treat all developers equally then they go and offer sweetheart deals behind the scenes making them dishonest at best.
The same deal was offered if you were also a video streaming service provider.
 
If anything, these hearings shed the light to a broader range of audiences how our current system works. I highly doubt there will be any outcome from these hearings, but it is interesting to see the stories of those parties nonetheless.
 
No, Apple. You have nothing to do with the production of the content. Maybe you can get 2-3% like CC companies but **** your greedy 15%.
Apple isn’t like the CC companies are they? They provide the platform, billions of devices and customers, software tools to develop apps for the platform, etc. Try harder.
 
They are all shady. How do you expect any company to grow so big otherwise. We live in a shady world. You can’t get far by being nice.

"The reduced ‌App Store‌ fees for Amazon's Prime Video app are actually part of a longstanding policy run by Apple to provide better fees for subscription-based streaming video apps."

According to the original article... these changes are public.
 
So much for Tim Cook's claim that “We apply the rules to all developers evenly."
Reread the article. The 15% rate was part of a policy change for ALL video streaming apps. Not just Amazon.
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“Content metadata is shared to Siri”.

There falls all of Apple hypocrisy and “privacy” bullc**p, they collect and analyze your data just like any other company.
Huh?
 
I'm not sure how this is any different from say getting shelf space at any big box retailer for you product. Say Walmart, Target, Homedepot, Lowes? They all take some kind of cut and they can all refuse to sell you product on store shelves. If you look at how magazine sales work it's based on position on the shelf
 
kind of weird that if the law is to benefit consumers, how does Prime not being on Apple TV do that? Ultimately apple's judge and jury is the consumer, and they will let apple know if things are good by what they buy from apple. If there was no alternative to Apple why would apple be cutting deals to improve their service?

If you want to look at monopolistic behaviour just look at Internet Explorer from the late 90's till mid 2000BC (Before Chrome!). Thats a company that is the only choice in OS's hardly updating or keeping in line with standards (just sheer standards of decency!) simply because there was no competition. What a terrible product that was. It felt like the only updates were to break compatibility with standards and further enforce its dominance. Apple isnt even in the same league in terms of scandalous behaviour.
 
kind of weird that if the law is to benefit consumers, how does Prime not being on Apple TV do that? Ultimately apple's judge and jury is the consumer, and they will let apple know if things are good by what they buy from apple. If there was no alternative to Apple why would apple be cutting deals to improve their service?

If you want to look at monopolistic behaviour just look at Internet Explorer from the late 90's till mid 2000BC (Before Chrome!). Thats a company that is the only choice in OS's hardly updating or keeping in line with standards (just sheer standards of decency!) simply because there was no competition. What a terrible product that was. It felt like the only updates were to break compatibility with standards and further enforce its dominance. Apple isnt even in the same league in terms of scandalous behaviour.
Not sure what you're saying.
To put this into perspective, at that time, Amazon refused to sell Apple TV (and also Chromecast) on their site if they didn't put Amazon's Prime video player on it with favorable terms. But of course, it's easier to put the evil tag on Apple today.

As for Internet Explorer, I believe one can install any internet browsers on Windows. There's Netscape, Opera, Firebird (Firefox), etc. So yeah, it was "terrible".... I checked and most Android phones must have Chrome (and other Google apps) pre-installed if they want to be Google certified. Where's the outrage, I wonder.
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You're joking right?
A web app is nowhere near the same experience.
The question was about an alternate distribution channel. Web apps is a valid distribution method.
 
However, the antitrust subcommittee interpreted the deal as representing preferential treatment given to Amazon and that Apple was not treating its developers equally when it came to providing access to its App Store and other platforms. "That is not correct," Cook said on Wednesday when asked by the subcommittee if some developers are treated differently. "We treat every developer the same."

Article Link: Apple Offered to Halve App Store Fee to Get Amazon Prime Video on iOS and Apple TV

Oh FFS.
(a) Apple had already offered this deal (and had it taken up) by other companies before Amazon

(b) Apple is using this more as carrot, to get apps on Apple TV to behave better, than as stick to punish them. You think better behavior by Apple TV apps isn't necessary? Try using the Spectrum Apple TV app some time and then tell me that's not an app that needs to be banned from the Apple TV...

Spectrum shows precisely the problem. Apple has no real way to control them because they get their entire money stream from suckers customers who subscribe at Spectrum stores, so Spectrum has zero incentive to fix the Spectrum on aTV experience, and apparently plenty of incentive to make it worse on every release.
 
Yes, I do.

Mastercard and Visa have operating margins around 65%.

Apple operating margin is around 25%.

You can see, Apple’s margins are far more reasonable and VISA and MasterCard bust your face. Saying they “only“ earn a 2% fee is a misunderstanding of the business model.

Apple is providing the developer a lot more value than the fees Vis a and MasterCard charge, which was my second point.
 
I dont think that's what most people are arguing. Apple says they treat all developers equally then they go and offer sweetheart deals behind the scenes making them dishonest at best.
We've found 1 example out of 1.7 million apps. There are exceptions to every rule that has ever existed.
 
This seems like a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation. If Apple hadn't allowed Amazon into their ecosystem, Apple would have been charged with anti-competitive practices. But Apple worked out a deal, brought Amazon on board and allowed customers more choices, and they're accused of being anti-competitive.
Wow. I’m worried you’re gonna break your back here.
 
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I tired trying to watch Amazon Prime video this week for the first time in months and the first 4 movies I selected were pay-per-view. There might be a lot of great Prime content on Amazon Video, but I am not going to waste my time looking for it. With the exception of Grand Tour, I don't see value in their video service. Amazon needs to get all the content that costs extra out of my face and keep it hidden in a sub-menu. It shouldn't show up on searches unless I ask to see them, and pay-per-view should stay off the landing page.

I agree that Prime Video needs to do better about not upselling you unless you specifically allow it, but they now have a toggle in the upper right that you can turn on called "Free to me" that will show only things included with Amazon Prime. Unfortunately, doing a search has a separate toggle (Filter -> Ways to Watch -> Included with Prime) that you need to "re-toggle" for every search. It's frustrating, but they do technically provide a way to filter out paid content.
 
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