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Apple Offers Developers a Closer Look at the New Mac Pro
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Just wondering - what do you think about the accusations of Samsung totally ripping off Apples hardware designs?
I think this might be bad for the Hackintoshing scene. All proprietary components in the Mac Pro (Video, etc.) means less support from card manufacturers.
Perfect in almost every way for me. I just sold my Mac Pro 1,1 that stayed remarkably usable even till recently.
All by storage is external as i run a 2012 cMBP. I do plenty of video, audio, 3d and graphics work and are very happy with the form / spec of the new MP.
The 6 thunderbolt ports are going to give pros all the expansion they want.
Really can't see any issues with it. I just want a pro workstation that will see me for 4 years and this will be it for sure.
All by storage is external as i run a 2012 cMBP. I do plenty of video, audio, 3d and graphics work and are very happy with the form / spec of the new MP.
The 6 thunderbolt ports are going to give pros all the expansion they want.
Really can't see any issues with it. I just want a pro workstation that will see me for 4 years and this will be it for sure.
On the go: my 11" MacBook Air.
At home: MacBook Air in Target Disk Mode serving all my files over Thunderbolt to a nice fast Mac Pro, with 27" retina display. OS, apps, and virtual memory all on the Pro's SSD. My own project files on the Air's SSD. Most other stuff (bookmarks, appointments) synched via iCloud.
When it's time to leave the house, unmount the Air and go! No files to synch, no delay. TimeCapsule for no-effort backups.
11" Air portability plus top-end pro power.
At home: MacBook Air in Target Disk Mode serving all my files over Thunderbolt to a nice fast Mac Pro, with 27" retina display. OS, apps, and virtual memory all on the Pro's SSD. My own project files on the Air's SSD. Most other stuff (bookmarks, appointments) synched via iCloud.
When it's time to leave the house, unmount the Air and go! No files to synch, no delay. TimeCapsule for no-effort backups.
11" Air portability plus top-end pro power.
...plus it looks pretty portable, I can see taking this on location if you had to and trying to do that with current Mac Pro is almost impossible or at least not much fun
Ugh! If I needed portable, I'd buy a MacBook Pro. Which I also can't use now because it's a locked up, useless TB1 brick.
I love that everyone is getting their panties in a bunch because they don't want a plethora of external drives on their desks - people the old one had 4 Slots - not 40. If you really work a lot with 4K files (what apple suggests as one of the reasons to use this machine) you're gonna need some additional space anyway.
Why are so many claiming that they will have a ton of ugly cables on their desk because of this unit? ONE TB2 cable can connect to 6 devices and one of those for me will be the hard drive box in the closet out of view. And there are SIX TB2 sockets so you will need quite a lot of boxes to use them all up. Not to mention that every TB display you plug into it will give you the hub you need for legacy devices and they can all sit under it an keep that clutter in check (like your keyboard and mouse).
That's why he said "steroids" and I have a mac mini with thunderbolt and an ATI radeon card from a generation ago before they removed the option. Runs really fast, to be honest
That is badass looking! LOVE IT! I have no need for one, but it would sure look cool sitting on my desk.
No not happy.
what pro user wants 'small footprint' when all it means is you have more cables and adapters and externals running all over the place?
Some people still need and use PCI cards, plenty of them.
Some people still need and use hard drives, plenty of them.
It's like they updated the 'cube' and called it pro.
There is nothing wrong with this unit in and of itself (like there was nothing wrong with the prior mac pro), but it's not a proper replacement for the mac pro.
What's wrong with a square form factor? it's stackable, could have even been rackmountable. What's wrong with housing standard hard drives (2.5" and 3.5") and PCI cards? People still use these, a lot.
I like this but it's not a mac pro replacement unit, and it's not really helping any power users actually cut down their physical work space.
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Finally a move away from silver. I hope they follow this with all black MBPs.
Every now and then I still see someone with a 2006 era black MacBook and think yes, that was the best looking MacBook ever.
I don't care what it looks like. The devil is in the details, which we really don't know yet. Price, expansion cost? Graphics expandability, peripherals' cost? Could be great value proposition. Or not.
I do like that Apple blew by the traditional layout. That's the Apple way! Hope they keep it up.
This being a MacRumors forum I'm surprised no one has said Android would do it better!!
I do like that Apple blew by the traditional layout. That's the Apple way! Hope they keep it up.
This being a MacRumors forum I'm surprised no one has said Android would do it better!!
Hate to agree. I championed for a Thunderbolt system for expandability, not as a replacement for necessary internal components. It's a beautiful concept and on the right track, however Apple jumped the gun with an "all or nothing" approach.
No internal SATA III 3.5" bays or internal ODD (use Blu-Ray in my Mac Pro's for years, essential for film as a good majority of that clientele requests Blu-Ray media). If it had x2 SATA III 3.5" bays, full PCIe slots, and BTO graphics cards (no nVidia CUDA support is a valid complaint), users would not be forced to use Thunderbolt devices for a full featured system.
I hope this is priced lower than current systems as expensive Thunderbolt devices would be required for those who have 4 HDD's and ODD's as I do (a 5 bay LaCie enclosure runs ~$1200!). These systems could force current users to spend $5k+ for a basic system with required Thunderbolt devices. If graphics can't be upgraded via an external Thunderbolt box, no matter how impressive now, at some point it will require updating. With RAM and PCIe as the only modifiable internal components, Apple is pushing less user access as with the rest of their product line. The right direction, simply too soon of a leap. Slow changes, Apple, although I am very excited you haven't given up on us.
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i wonder if you can carry-on a macpro now?
..would set my mind at ease some while flying.
i like it though. the size is good..the specs sound good
..would set my mind at ease some while flying.
i like it though. the size is good..the specs sound good
Yeah, I bought one TB1 drive enclosure with 2 drives in it - cost me a grand. Uses a $50 cable and has a power supply with one of those giant brick converters. Barely holds one project and it's still not as fast as it'd be if the drives were wired to the motherboard.
Professionally this is a disaster and will be a massive eyesore once it's outfitted to, say, cut a movie. Haha, just kidding. No one cuts movies on Macs anymore. Thanks Final Cut!
It's simple really. If you need, say, one external hard drive and two PCI cards - you will have to use three TB cables. In addition, all three external enclosures will have their own fans (and power adapters and power cables). Compare this to a modern desktop computer design where you can simply put all this stuff into the case and have a very neat computer.
I doubt you bought a case with Thunderbolt 2 connections. They will be faster than SATA.
Dual cpu became single one.
Hope that will be enough for everything.
Waiting for MacProLight with i7 and non-ECC ram...
Maybe newMP will be $500 cheaper than old model and you only have pay $2000 more for TB-boxes and cables...
If GPUs would be upgradeable, maybe, but...
Damn, these things are getting expensive.
Although single fan and single big heatsink as core of chassis is really nice design!
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Yeah, Apple invented the wheel!
So basically you didn't bother to view the demo or read the preview info on Apple's site before spewing your complaints. Do yourself a favor & spare some grief. Read about the new MPs features first. (Yes, internals are user upgradable by design).
I guess you'll be buying a boring black box Windows PC then
. Have they announced the internal storage yet? The design of add on hard drive arrays etc? The price?