Curious, why is it not a problem that the CPU will be obsolete in two years but a problem if the GPU is obsolete in two years?.
I have had my mac pro for 5 years, i've swapped out video cards, slapped new hard drives and SSD's into it.
In 2 years when the GPU's are average to obsolete, you seem stuck there (I'd love it if I was wrong and you could upgrade, please say so).
Can't believe people are winging away on here, oh well not my problem I guess. But I bet that new Pro sells by the truck load!
Yes it is, but not from Johnny Ive.
Johnny (as with everything else he ever did) just took it from Dieter Rahms.
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That you see once a month for two hours when you actually need the optical drive an pull it out of its drawer. HDD yes, most people will need an external case for them.Ah, and no optical disk as it looks like (not a big surprise) just another cable
My Price Guess Is Minimum $2999. But I gotta own one. Historically Awesome!![]()
I switched over to a USB optical drive for all of my desktop computers. It saves me money each time I build a new one and it's portable.That you see once a month for two hours when you actually need the optical drive an pull it out of its drawer. HDD yes, most people will need an external case for them.
Looks very interesting! Let's see what price point that Apple releases for it.
Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.
We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???
Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.
God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?
I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.
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In less than a weeks this new Mac Pro will be FULL OF DUST.
So it's only pratical to make it look like a trash can, because you will have to empty it every few days.
Explain this to my clients who request Blu-Ray media for the HD film work I do. I suppose I should just give them HDD's then. Blu-Ray is far from dead for many professionals, and the "1080P" material on iTunes is a joke; no DTS audio, and the film is closer to 720P than 1080P. Until wireless networks can put out at least 54Mbps transfer rates, not to mention downloads, Blu-Ray media hits "iTunes HD" out of the park.
Tell us how do you transfer files to someone's BluRay Disk player?
Curious, why is it not a problem that the CPU will be obsolete in two years but a problem if the GPU is obsolete in two years?
If an entry level model prices at 2K, I will get this next year. Based on the components costs, can anyone guess what it might price out at?
How does the CPU not instantly melt with just passive cooling?
I want to see the block diagram on how Thunderbolt is handled on this thing. Piping it over PCIe 3.0 is the only way you're going to avoid over saturating the Thunderbolt bus. Controllers and switches galore...CPU's usually don't change much for workstations aside from Thunderbolt requiring specific processors. Improved graphic cards help more than new CPU's in most instances, as does RAM and HDD space. Hardware can last longer when graphics and RAM can be updated. CPU updates usually effect notebooks and non-server based workstations.
I want to see the block diagram on how Thunderbolt is handled on this thing. Piping it over PCIe 3.0 is the only way you're going to avoid over saturating the Thunderbolt bus. Controllers and switches galore...
"Apple can't innovate; my a**"
-Phil Schiller
Apple really surprised me today. Really excited for the fall.
People are entitled to their opinions, and their "winging" isn't "winging", most have valid points, concerns and questions. We make our living from these systems, we've waited with bated breath for three years. Don't dismiss it as our fault, we have thousands and thousands invested in hardware and pro-apps necessary for our work. It takes a lot of money and time to invest/change our work to another platform. This is why we are concerned, not if "WoW" and "Angry Birds" are faster, but if our work is hindered or improves.
"Winging" about our valid concerns and discussing pro's and con's isn't productive, it's insulting and unnecessary. Move on.