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I have had my mac pro for 5 years, i've swapped out video cards, slapped new hard drives and SSD's into it.

In 2 years when the GPU's are average to obsolete, you seem stuck there (I'd love it if I was wrong and you could upgrade, please say so).
Curious, why is it not a problem that the CPU will be obsolete in two years but a problem if the GPU is obsolete in two years?
 
Can't believe people are winging away on here, oh well not my problem I guess. But I bet that new Pro sells by the truck load!

People are entitled to their opinions, and their "winging" isn't "winging", most have valid points, concerns and questions. We make our living from these systems, we've waited with bated breath for three years. Don't dismiss it as our fault, we have thousands and thousands invested in hardware and pro-apps necessary for our work. It takes a lot of money and time to invest/change our work to another platform. This is why we are concerned, not if "WoW" and "Angry Birds" are faster, but if our work is hindered or improves.

"Winging" about our valid concerns and discussing pro's and con's isn't productive, it's insulting and unnecessary. Move on.
 
OPEN TOP!

In less than a weeks this new Mac Pro will be FULL OF DUST.

So it's only pratical to make it look like a trash can, because you will have to empty it every few days.
 
Yes it is, but not from Johnny Ive.

Johnny (as with everything else he ever did) just took it from Dieter Rahms.

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If you are a designer, your irreverence toward another great designer is truly trash talk.

Have you ever hear of design influence or inspiration. That's how new designers honor and remembrance our past greats. Furthermore, great designers all try to solve problems best way possible. When you try to reinvent a wheel, you are an idiot. This design is not from a coffee machine rather resembles an airplane turbine engine as it is the most efficient design for airflow.

Ok, Dieter Rahms is one of the greatest modern designers but the new Mac Pro has no relation or resemblance to the Braun coffee machine. Stop flipping design books.

I do not like everything Johnny Ive designs but I do respect him as a fellow designer.
 
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Ah, and no optical disk as it looks like (not a big surprise) just another cable
That you see once a month for two hours when you actually need the optical drive an pull it out of its drawer. HDD yes, most people will need an external case for them.
 
Hopefully the lower spec version will have more mainstream pricing... Might be more compelling than the Haswell Mac mini.
 
Looks like Apple clearly going for expandability in mind with what all the ports.

Thus, this could probably mean a slimmer, small design too, like the Mac mini.. or the Apple TV.

Can anyone image ? a mac pro, in a "hockey puck" stye? with nothing but ports.
 
That you see once a month for two hours when you actually need the optical drive an pull it out of its drawer. HDD yes, most people will need an external case for them.
I switched over to a USB optical drive for all of my desktop computers. It saves me money each time I build a new one and it's portable.
 
HeyArt - don't forget your hat on the way out.

Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

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OPEN TOP!

In less than a weeks this new Mac Pro will be FULL OF DUST.

So it's only pratical to make it look like a trash can, because you will have to empty it every few days.

The fan that's housed there is blowing air upwards but I think you could still be right.
 
Explain this to my clients who request Blu-Ray media for the HD film work I do. I suppose I should just give them HDD's then. Blu-Ray is far from dead for many professionals, and the "1080P" material on iTunes is a joke; no DTS audio, and the film is closer to 720P than 1080P. Until wireless networks can put out at least 54Mbps transfer rates, not to mention downloads, Blu-Ray media hits "iTunes HD" out of the park.

Tell us how do you transfer files to someone's BluRay Disk player?

Mr. Arfdog there has always been one of a snarky fanatic in this forum. He always think Apple's way is the only way in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE.
So if it ain't has :apple: logo on it, he ain't using it.

Maybe he always told his clients to download his design material off Dropbox or send it via iMessage. Otherwise he would tell his clients to ****** off and buy an Apple device.

Bluray would not do
DTS HD would not do
Printed materials would not do

Just m4v file with 256kbps AAC audio, "And please, if you want to copy my work, bring your own Thunderbolt storage, or I ain't givin it". That's what he said :cool::eek::rolleyes:
 
Curious, why is it not a problem that the CPU will be obsolete in two years but a problem if the GPU is obsolete in two years?

CPU's usually don't change much for workstations aside from Thunderbolt requiring specific processors. Improved graphic cards help more than new CPU's in most instances, as does RAM and HDD space. Hardware can last longer when graphics and RAM can be updated. CPU updates usually effect notebooks and non-server based workstations.
 
CPU's usually don't change much for workstations aside from Thunderbolt requiring specific processors. Improved graphic cards help more than new CPU's in most instances, as does RAM and HDD space. Hardware can last longer when graphics and RAM can be updated. CPU updates usually effect notebooks and non-server based workstations.
I want to see the block diagram on how Thunderbolt is handled on this thing. Piping it over PCIe 3.0 is the only way you're going to avoid over saturating the Thunderbolt bus. Controllers and switches galore...
 
I want to see the block diagram on how Thunderbolt is handled on this thing. Piping it over PCIe 3.0 is the only way you're going to avoid over saturating the Thunderbolt bus. Controllers and switches galore...

That's right, you and I discussed this a few days ago. Thanks for the info on Thunderbolt and mini-DisplayPort/graphics. I'm wondering the same thing too.
 
"Apple can't innovate; my a**"
-Phil Schiller

Apple really surprised me today. Really excited for the fall.

Hardly. I think the "Dude, that's frikken AWSOME, OMG OMG OMG" buyers will like the new Mac Pro. The adults who want an upgradeable, utilitarian PC that can outfitted for different kinds of uses and upgraded into the future will find their way over to the likes of HP when their newly released commercial desktops ship later this month.

To me Apple has gone from innovative/different to just goofy, weird and overly proprietary. I don't need an ashtray-looking black cylinder and a strange, tall, white box sitting on my desk to show that I'm part of the really cool new paradigm crowd.
 
I realize there are a lot of people who will not like the new design from the look to the nature of the external upgrades.

I have used Apple's Pro machines since the PowerMac 6100 and have upgraded at regular intervals from then on. I loved the look of the original PowerMac G5 and that look has been great since then moving into the Mac Pro's. I watched the keynote in hopes of some sort of glimpse of a new Mac Pro. When Phil introduced the video, I was very excited to see what Apple came up with. I felt like a little kid again, well, an almost 40 year old kid. But I have to admit that though I was looking for something different, I love the new design. Yes, it looks like a robot or trash can to some. But the simplicity of the design is amazing to me. I really like it.

Just the engineering involved appeals to me. The design reminds me of a modern version of the G4 Cube. But of course the cube is now a cylinder.

Say what you will, but I like it. Just my opinion as I was interested in reading all of the replies here and I definitely understand how others feel. But I just really like it.
 
Love it minus no upgradable graphics card slot. For a pro machine, no upgradable GPU is a game breaker for me. Having an external TB slot chasis..not going to shell out for that.
 
People are entitled to their opinions, and their "winging" isn't "winging", most have valid points, concerns and questions. We make our living from these systems, we've waited with bated breath for three years. Don't dismiss it as our fault, we have thousands and thousands invested in hardware and pro-apps necessary for our work. It takes a lot of money and time to invest/change our work to another platform. This is why we are concerned, not if "WoW" and "Angry Birds" are faster, but if our work is hindered or improves.

"Winging" about our valid concerns and discussing pro's and con's isn't productive, it's insulting and unnecessary. Move on.

Cannot read your post. No ofense. To much pseudo-philosophy that sounds like noise...
 
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