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Apple Offers Developers a Closer Look at the New Mac Pro

lilo777 said:
It's simple really. If you need, say, one external hard drive and two PCI cards - you will have to use three TB cables. In addition, all three external enclosures will have their own fans (and power adapters and power cables). Compare this to a modern computer desktop design where you can simply put all this stuff into the case and have a very neat computer.
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There are already TB1 cases that hold more than one card and I'm sure with the added bandwidth of TB2 they may hold more. And TB chains so that lessens the clutter. Who knows, with all this complaining maybe somebody will make the big chassis all these people seem to miss with space for hard drives and cards and connects with one TB2 cable (more if needed) - oh and is rack mountable to cover all the bases.
 
ArtMooney said:
Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.
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You're a so-callled power user, yet you bemoan 4K displays, the definition of a power monitor....
 
I'll wait to see a teardown of one once they start shipping. If I like what I see there, then it may be a viable alternative when I eventually upgrade my dual X5650 system.

Still not liking the 4 DIMM slots though, if true.
 
enough garbage can jokes...

Apple innovates, others copy.

To the guy who didn't get Apple to make a computer to his liking so he went with Windows, bye bye.
 
apolloa said:
I guess you'll be buying a boring black box Windows PC then :D. Have they announced the internal storage yet? The design of add on hard drive arrays etc? The price?
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With Windows PC one has way more choices than with Apple. If you do not want "boring" you can always buy something like this Lian-Li aluminum case:

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Is this lively enough for you?
 
ArtMooney said:
How do I encode BluRays and burn them for testing and protype deliverables? I'm also guessing it's going to be forced 60Hz like the rest of their crap so 3D is out - which it'd be out anyway because I can't get an Nvidia card in it to work with their glasses.

You fanboy, YouTube, FCPX kids are probably gonna love it. David Fincher and Walter Murch however, like me, are probably going to be forced to use something else.

This is an unmitigated disaster professionally speaking. My mom's gonna love it though.
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So you're the one still burning CDs lol! I guess you can't just transfer the files over? The rest of the world has moved onto ethernet and general connectivity to network drives, sorry your business is stuck in the past.
 
Went off and did something else, just came back after a couple of hours and looked at the pics again with a fresh perspective...and

WTF, the thing looks completely ridiculous….like an April fools joke, like I woke up in the morning and this thing was some weird stupid dream. Kitchen appliance robot trash bin ashtray subwoofer. Its laughable. Betcha there was quite a bit a polarization at Apple regarding this.

As for the whole external storage thing.

Back when we had 4 x G5 computers, Apple thought it was a great idea to only put space for 2x HDD's inside. So for each system we had 4 x stacked drive enclosures on top running to a Sonnet ESATA PCI card. Total bitch... didn't always mount properly, etc etc. We were waiting ages for that card to come out before we could buy those G5's. Then the Mac Pro came out and they made more space for drives. Now we're back to the external again....history repeats?
 
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ersatzplanet said:
There are already TB1 cases that hold more than one card and I'm sure with the added bandwidth of TB2 they may hold more. And TB chains so that lessens the clutter. Who knows, with all this complaining maybe somebody will make the big chassis all these people seem to miss with space for hard drives and cards and connects with one TB2 cable (more if needed) - oh and is rack mountable to cover all the bases.
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Chaining does not reduce the amount of cables. One computer box is much better than two computer boxes connected by wires. New design is plain stupid. It can only benefit non-pros who do not add anything to their computers but even for them the advantage is questionable.
 
TripHop said:
My Price Guess Is Minimum $2999. But I gotta own one. Historically Awesome! :eek:
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A higher price point plus the necessary external Thunderbolt HDD enclosures, that would make for an expensive system just to meet current Mac Pro hardware needs.
 
Arfdog said:
So you're the one still burning CDs lol! I guess you can't just transfer the files over? The rest of the world has moved onto ethernet and general connectivity to network drives, sorry your business is stuck in the past.
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Explain this to my clients who request Blu-Ray media for the HD film work I do. I suppose I should just give them HDD's then. Blu-Ray is far from dead for many professionals, and the "1080P" material on iTunes is a joke; no DTS audio, and the film is closer to 720P than 1080P. Until wireless networks can put out at least 54Mbps transfer rates, not to mention downloads, Blu-Ray media hits "iTunes HD" out of the park.
 
Arfdog said:
So you're the one still burning CDs lol! I guess you can't just transfer the files over? The rest of the world has moved onto ethernet and general connectivity to network drives, sorry your business is stuck in the past.
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Tell us how do you transfer files to someone's BluRay Disk player?
 
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!


More seriously, i wonder how much this will cost......made in USA is going to be a licence to ask silly money......
 
Obi-Wan you're my only hope...

Is it just me or does this new Mac Pro look like Tractor Beam 12.

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On the demo page, RAM looks upgradeable but the CPU and GPUs do not and there's no mention of it. But... it's the main thing people will gripe about so best to wait for confirmation either way.

Also from those MacPro owners that I know (and it's only a few), RAM is a huge thing to eb able to upgrade, as are hard drives, CPU/GPUs less so. A few friends upgrade the machines fairly regularly (2-3 years) to keep in touch with the demands of the media they're putting through the machines.

Others just need to be able to upgrade to sustain the machine for 4-5 years.

Your mileage may vary. :)
 
lilo777 said:
With Windows PC one has way more choices than with Apple. If you do not want "boring" you can always buy something like this Lian-Li aluminum case:

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Is this lively enough for you?
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If anyone brought that, they need to get out more! And yeah, more choices with Windows is kinda stating the obvious, you choose Apple for a reason.

Can't believe people are winging away on here, oh well not my problem I guess. But I bet that new Pro sells by the truck load!
 
Mindboggling

Got to admit was losing faith with Apple, too much iToy emphasis and not enough on Mac Computers themselves - and then this beast comes alone - a beauty.

In a nutshell, this deserves to be in a museum AND I WANT ONE!
 
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