You're probably right - I'm looking at it from the "upgrade from Vista" or XP perspective.
If you're running Windows 3.1, you'll probably have more issues when upgrading.
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Apple: Official Boot Camp Support for Windows 7 Coming Later This Year
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You're probably right - I'm looking at it from the "upgrade from Vista" or XP perspective.
If you're running Windows 3.1, you'll probably have more issues when upgrading.
I walked into a apple store early this year because the nvidia 9600m in my unibody macbook pro died while I was booted into XP on bootcamp.
Because I wanted to make the genius's diagnosis as easy as possible, I told him the unit died while using my bootcamp partition.
The first thing the "genius" said to me was, Sorry, we don't support windows".
So how do you no longer "support" something if you never supported it in the first place?
They support the installation of windows on boot camp but nothing else? Even though it was clearly a hardware failure.
Applecare finally replaced the logic board after 3 trips to the apple store.
Don't even give them the opportunity to call you out on something like that. Just say it failed during "regular" use (read: running OS X).
why are people giving negatives to this, this is a good thing
My guess is anyone who has a Mac from 2006 or earlier with intentions of running Windows 7. Otherwise, no clue.
All these other people just sound like "OMG apple won't let my imac G4 run windows 7 WTF THIS IS BS APPLE
Looks like im buying pcs from now on".
Balls to that. Both my iMacs aren't supported, and I have a fresh copy of Windows 7 sitting right here (waiting till the weekend to install it). But Apple won't be supporting it? Wonder what the reasoning is "buy a newer Mac"? No Apple, my next machines are homebuilt PC's. Maybe with that new Psystar EFI thingymajig.
Here you got it; Apple provide crap support via Boot Camp today. Their drivers and updates are a joke.
When they decide to 'support' Windows 7 later this year, there will be no support. Just the same old crap drivers, and a lot of stuff not working.
Not true. Apple has it down now. Watch.
Wins the "post of the day" award for something, not sure what!
Apple has a vested interest in having making the Windows 7 experience on Apple hardware sub-par.
Shipping it late, with poor performance, and lots of bugs - Mission Accomplished!
Or without windows, for that manner.
At any rate, I just got my upgrade (29 at educational pricing) and neither Parallels or Fusion can be upgraded due to compatibility issues with the upgrade and WinXP.
Wins the "post of the day" award for something, not sure what!
Apple has a vested interest in having making the Windows 7 experience on Apple hardware sub-par.
Shipping it late, with poor performance, and lots of bugs - Mission Accomplished!
Oh, come on now. Apple doesn't need to lift a finger to cause problems with windows 7 performance. Just install it, use it for a few months and BAM! slow ass PC. Windows 7 just clogs down with crap just like Vista before it. For no apparent reason it just bogs down and the only way to fix it is with a reinstall. I have had to reinstall our test rigs twice now since running 7 RC and RTM. Other than putting office on them they have had nothing else installed and have been used daily for email and web browsing.
Again, just like Vista, initial impressions were promising but after some time in the real world the **** starts to leak out..
You can "upgrade" XP to Windows 7, you just need to do a "throwaway" Vista upgrade first:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8648817/
So, you don't install any software on your "test rigs"???
Please back this up with something to keep me from putting it in the "FUD folder".
So, erm, what did your comparison of snapshots created over time reveal? I'm assuming, since you're testing fitness for some purpose and you've identified a repeatable issue, that you're actually trying to find out what the problem is. As most parts in your computer are volatile, we can assume that some files on your hard drive, or the organisation of files on the drive, have changed in some way. What did you check?
I'm not asking to be facetious - I really am interested in informed diagnoses of problems which develop over time. There are so many reports of various systems over the decades "just getting slower until I give up and reinstall" but few attempts to identify exactly what's happening.
It is good to have read all of these posts. I am considering very strongly to buy my first Mac. I plan to use Windows 7 too. I would like the machine to run both OSes very well if I am going to pay a lot of money for it. I have been using W7 and it is very good.
I have heard about some nasty bugs in SL and Apple is very slow to update. I'll wait for more reviews about it.
The iPhone is my first Apple product. If the experience of an iPhone is similar to the experience of Mac computer, I'll get it immediately. However, there is no way I'll buy a expensive machine with a lot of bugs.
I have heard about some nasty bugs in SL and Apple is very slow to update. I'll wait for more reviews about it.
The iPhone is my first Apple product. If the experience of an iPhone is similar to the experience of Mac computer, I'll get it immediately. However, there is no way I'll buy a expensive machine with a lot of bugs.
All these other people just sound like "OMG apple won't let my imac G4 run windows 7 WTF THIS IS BS APPLE
Are you equating the iMac G4 with early Intel iMacs? Because I don't recall anyone mentioning a PPC iMac.
Are you kidding? SL was released two months ago, there's already been one update and the second will be out any day now.
I pretty much ran the RC abusively for months on an AMD machine and Windows 7 shined the entire time. Games, ancient software, and lots of other applications. It still cranked out massive frames per second and would record my HDTV streams simultaneously without a care.
On a quad core it's gaming with Handbrake simultaneously.
Yes, but unfortunately I don't have Vista and MS appears to have pulled the upgrade d/l now that W7 is out.
Torrents? Personally, not worth the risk of getting a doctored copy.
What I would like to see is a firmware update offering UEFI 2.0+ compatibility for all 2007 and later Macs to eliminate the need for BIOS emulation altogether. Windows 7 seems to work fine on my MacBook Pro aside from the fact that the keyboard backlighting always returns to maximum brightness after a reboot, but the behavior was the same under Windows Vista as well. I don't see much coming in the update aside from official support for currently unsupported configurations, and minor driver tweaks.
oh this is just great.
I have a mid 2006 MP (2.66ghz) which was bought because of the dual platform idea.
boot camp turned out to be a f*-ing lie. XP drivers were crap (bad DPC latencies all over, and ofcourese the lovely keyboard manager) and now they are not supporting windows 7 on this machine. My intention was to upgrade my MP, which is an audio workstation, to 64bit W7 etc, etc, blah blah, down to the point, apparently Apple's workstation lifespan is max 3 years. This is just so "#"#&"-ing unprofessional. In pro world support (including legacy products) is EVERYTHING! Apple has none of that, tghey only tell you to buy the latest whatever hardware or software.
I'm stranting to feel bad that I didn't buy that Dell 690 when it was a choice of MP or 690. (if you're wondering why I even bought the mac, the reason was that I had a delusion that Logic Pro would be revolutionary good for my audio production, but it turned out to be the worst money-down-the-drain investment ever)
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I have a mid 2006 MP (2.66ghz) which was bought because of the dual platform idea.
boot camp turned out to be a f*-ing lie. XP drivers were crap (bad DPC latencies all over, and ofcourese the lovely keyboard manager) and now they are not supporting windows 7 on this machine. My intention was to upgrade my MP, which is an audio workstation, to 64bit W7 etc, etc, blah blah, down to the point, apparently Apple's workstation lifespan is max 3 years. This is just so "#"#&"-ing unprofessional. In pro world support (including legacy products) is EVERYTHING! Apple has none of that, tghey only tell you to buy the latest whatever hardware or software.
I'm stranting to feel bad that I didn't buy that Dell 690 when it was a choice of MP or 690. (if you're wondering why I even bought the mac, the reason was that I had a delusion that Logic Pro would be revolutionary good for my audio production, but it turned out to be the worst money-down-the-drain investment ever)
-t
Borrow a Vista DVD from a friend. It's not piracy, since you're not going to use an illegitimate key - you'll use the builtin "grace" period.
Even with the torrents, you should be able to find a trustworthy MD5 to verify that the download is clean.
Boot Camp 3.0 (from the Snow Leopard disc) has been working flawlessly on my mid-2009 15" MBP running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. I'm not sure I'll need an update by the end of the year, but I'll take it anyway.
I've been running systems with Win7 and Vista x64 drivers all through the Beta, TAP and RC periods. My experience has been that if a Vista driver loads on Win7, it's fine. The few things that are incompatible are tagged, so that an incompatible driver won't load.
Note that I never said Windows 7 doesn't run on "unsupported" video chips; I am using it just fine on mine. It's just that *Apple* can't "support" it because AMD/ATI doesn't provide finalized Windows 7 drivers for those video chips. AMD/ATI even had beta Windows 7 drivers for them (Catalyst 9.3 or earlier,) it's that they cut older from the final Windows 7 driver package.
Yes, Windows 7 includes built-in, old drivers for those video chips. But they aren't "full-featured", so Apple isn't going to "support" that configuration.
Of course, I find it particularly odd since Apple doesn't provide actual "support" for Windows on Boot Camp at all... As I said, they should just pop up a warning.
Just another Apple way of making perfectly serviceable machines 'seem' redundant by artificial measures.
Apple want us to upgrade at least every three years whether our machines need it or not.
As much as I love my MacPro 2.66 - it seems to be an oximoron that the system touted as being the most upgradeable and serviceable machine is encumbered by so many artifical restrictions in regards to upgrade paths. No efi on graphics cards locking them out, no 64 bit snow leopard kernel, no windows 7 support ?? When time after time it's been demonstrated that the machine is more than capable of handling such.
Oh well.....
Apple want us to upgrade at least every three years whether our machines need it or not.
As much as I love my MacPro 2.66 - it seems to be an oximoron that the system touted as being the most upgradeable and serviceable machine is encumbered by so many artifical restrictions in regards to upgrade paths. No efi on graphics cards locking them out, no 64 bit snow leopard kernel, no windows 7 support ?? When time after time it's been demonstrated that the machine is more than capable of handling such.
Oh well.....
There are ways to get unsupported graphics cards running using NVInject. Beyond graphics cards, I don't know. I don't understand Apple locking out 64 bit kernels.