It’s all negative with Apple nowadays.
Timmy is running the company into the ground.
Timmy is running the company into the ground.
How many shares do you own?I'm not an Apple hater, but I still disappointed as I own stock, and the way they've handled this particular product opens Apple wide up for lawsuits. Also, I do think Tim needs to go. Especially if he approved the announcement of a product that was only in the concept phase. Not to mention them adding it to the documentation of the products that are supposed to be able to charge of of it. I've lived Apple since I discovered them from their "I'm a Mac" commercials. But the last few years haven't left me hopeful. :-(
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Nice! I'm going to check this out. Hope it works with the Airpods!
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I totally agree. I'm not mad they tried. I'm annoyed with how it was handled.
There is no overreaction. It appears to be so evident there are those who are so entrenched in the old Apple that the bias present can't get past the person who is the current CEO, the decisions the current CEO made (has been making) and the direction that the new CEO has taken Apple. Unless it came from SJ, there has been no innovation at Apple in the last x years. This in spite of their Apple stock is worth a pretty penny more than it was when they bought it years ago.Seriously, Give me a break.
Did you forget the problems Apple had under Jobs? Remember you’re holding it wrong? This was a design flaw in the iPhone to the point they had to offer a free bumper case. The iPhone is the most MAJOR product in the world and they screwed it up. This is an accessory 99% of people forgot was going to exist.
You also ignored several post Jobs innovations, such as Airpods, Watch, silicon, and iPad.
As usual, you’re with everyone overreacting. This isn’t a good look, but it’s a freaking charging accessory that was never going to move the needle. It was cancelled (correctly) when it was clear the project was doomed. Better to cancel and lose a tiny bit of credibility than to launch a product with problems and get headlines for burning down a house.
One would hope Stevey is turning over in his grave.It’s all negative with Apple nowadays.
Timmy is running the company into the ground.
There is no overreaction. It appears to be so evident there are those who are so entrenched in the old Apple that the bias present can't get past the person who is the current CEO, the decisions the current CEO made (has been making) and the direction that the new CEO has taken Apple. Unless it came from SJ, there has been no innovation at Apple in the last x years. This in spite of their Apple stock is worth a pretty penny more than it was when they bought it years ago.
The airpower has become a metaphor for people taking biased potshots at Apple.
Please, stop with this nonsense.
I said in a previous post, how one feels about the way airpower was handled is an individual view, there is no right or wrong.Of course people will take potshots. For me, it’s pretty bad when you announce a product in front of a large audience with extreme confidence, then cancel it a year+ later AND removing AirPower references from manuals/site as if it was never announced. From a PR perspective, this is one of the more comical ones of recent years.
Case in point there are many like me who own the stock but aren’t as thrilled as you about the current state of things. Honestly if Apple had made a single pragmatic charger, I might have considered buying it.
Yes he is. Product cancellations, defective keyboards, Throttlegate, Bendgate, 5400RPM hard drives in 2019, Touch Disease, Error 53. This is a shadow of the COmpany it once was.There is no overreaction. It appears to be so evident there are those who are so entrenched in the old Apple that the bias present can't get past the person who is the current CEO, the decisions the current CEO made (has been making) and the direction that the new CEO has taken Apple. Unless it came from SJ, there has been no innovation at Apple in the last x years. This in spite of their Apple stock is worth a pretty penny more than it was when they bought it years ago.
The airpower has become a metaphor for people taking biased potshots at Apple.
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One would hope Stevey is turning over in his grave.
I disagree. Product cancellation have occurred prior to 2011. Defective products have occurred prior to 2011. The company is worth way more than it was prior to 2011. Conformational bias is evident in many of these posts.Yes he is. Product cancellations, defective keyboards, Throttlegate, Bendgate, 5400RPM hard drives in 2019, Touch Disease, Error 53. This is a shadow of the COmpany it once was.
AntennagateYes he is. Product cancellations, defective keyboards, Throttlegate, Bendgate, 5400RPM hard drives in 2019, Touch Disease, Error 53. This is a shadow of the COmpany it once was.
I disagree. Product cancellation have occurred prior to 2011. Defective products have occurred prior to 2011. The company is worth way more than it was prior to 2011. Conformational bias is evident in many of these posts.
I’m just saying. I’ve been around here long enough to remember that the bitching and moaning during Steve Jobs’ time on here was no different in quantity than now. The only difference is that back then this place was a little more self-selecting, so the bitching and moaning was more intelligent and better written.Antenna issues were overblown.
Only one product cancellation in the same grand scale as Airpower was Copland, Apple had shown demos, even made a full book of documentation for developers, only to have it cancelled.
And that was pre-Jobs, nothing like this happened under Jobs.
When companies like Apple fall, you don't see an instant crash It will slowly wither away. The failure of this hardware itself is a testament that Tim Cook is not a product guy. One of the reason Apple always has worked under secrecy that they had the flexibility of cancelling the product if it didn't work out. Correct me, if I am wrong, Steve Jobs never announced a product with a promise for future .that's why people always wanted to hear "one more thing".. and that always led to a surprise product or service announcement that you could use in a couple of weeks, not like in future someday.Why admit apple has fallen, when it hasn't? You talk about fanboys as if this is truth, but maybe the critics need to look in the mirror as if Apple had no failures prior to 2011 and was absolutely perfect.
Jobs is dead and Tim Cook has been successfully running Apple and grew it into a monster. While one doesn't have to like the person, his style or Apple, one truism is that Apple is never going back to the way it was prior to 2011.
Which people, who are you speaking for? You are not speaking for me (and I can name some others you aren't speaking for) as I like the apple products that I have recently bought. Worth every penny.
Why admit apple has fallen, when it hasn't? You talk about fanboys as if this is truth, but maybe the critics need to look in the mirror as if Apple had no failures prior to 2011 and was absolutely perfect.
Jobs is dead and Tim Cook has been successfully running Apple and grew it into a monster. While one doesn't have to like the person, his style or Apple, one truism is that Apple is never going back to the way it was prior to 2011.
Which people, who are you speaking for? You are not speaking for me (and I can name some others you aren't speaking for) as I like the apple products that I have recently bought. Worth every penny.
Your opinion. If it were anywhere near as bad as it is portrayed here, they would have done something major about it.Well, to be fair, the keyboard is a travesty. Fingers crossed they rip out the butterflies very soon.
When companies like Apple fall, you don't see an instant crash It will slowly wither away. The failure of this hardware itself is a testament that Tim Cook is not a product guy. One of the reason Apple always has worked under secrecy that they had the flexibility of cancelling the product if it didn't work out. Correct me, if I am wrong, Steve Jobs never announced a product with a promise for future .that's why people always wanted to hear "one more thing".. and that always led to a surprise product or service announcement that you could use in a couple of weeks, not like in future someday.
How do you measure the success of apple? The revenue? That is on it's path of decline. With iPhone revenue going down, and that made apple to shake up its management, completely orienting itself as a service company from hardware company, itself tells you that it's no more hinky dory at Apple.
Is stock price a measure of success? Then why is Facebook rising so high? What's the success of Facebook? Delusional investors running after money without any understanding of the companies future can't be a justification of company's success.
How do you know the board is supporting Tim Cook? If you are one of the board members, what are
your options? None! Apples board has never been a proactive board. It's much like a board that always supported what Steve wanted to do. And without him, they have no other option, but to support Tim. That does not mean they agree with Tim or the way it's going. With lack of an innovator or a disrupter, they have no options to choose from. Look at Facebook board of directors. After all the fiascos, do they have a backbone to do anything? You have very high hope of board of directors. They are actually the most sheepish group of people.
Given all that, I am not losing hope. Hopefully, Apple will be successful in it's path. We know, very soon, Iphone will be a thing of past. The TV service or the news service is not something radical. It all seems like Apple has become a follower. But you never know. So let's wait and watch. But at this point, if you ask me, it does not look good for Apple!
yes we all know apple is not going to goI’m just saying. I’ve been around here long enough to remember that the bitching and moaning during Steve Jobs’ time on here was no different in quantity than now. The only difference is that back then this place was a little more self-selecting, so the bitching and moaning was more intelligent and better written.
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And yet we are talking about a glorified power brick here. It’s not like they cancelled iOS 13, marzipan, iphone XI, etc.
It’s true that this shows one of two things. Either:
1) big problem in the engineering organization, promising management something they didn’t know how to make -or-
2) big problem in management, promising the public something the engineering organization didn’t promise they could make
Hopefully they’ve learned their lesson. But let’s not get too crazy here - it’s not like these things were going to be massive sellers and it’s not like their loss is going to materially affect Apple’s finances.
the issue is not about the charging mat. it could have been any product. the key issue is you dont announce products that you can not come through withMeh.
It was a freaking charging mat. That's it. There's nothing interesting about it, there never was, and it's absolute idiocy that there's so much gnashing of teeth about it here. Apple shouldn't have ever bothered. It was never going to be an interesting product, it was a waste of engineering resources to even bother.
If they were trying to solve across-the-room charging? That would have been interesting. A mat? Meh.
Your opinion. If it were anywhere near as bad as it is portrayed here, they would have done something major about it.
You can’t sell 20M Macs annually with broken keyboards. Simply can’t. It’s overreaction, echo chamber here.
And your inability to admit when something is wrong is part of why they won’t rise again. And Tim didn’t build anything. He’s been riding the coattails of Jobs. You can see Tim’s lack of leadership all over the place. It saddens me, but this is a huge mistake and it’s hoing to cost them. And me. Also, you judge me without knowing me. I myself am a fanboy. I’ve loved Apple ever since I first discovered them from the I’m a Mac commercials. I’m not a “critic”, but I certainly agree with most of them. Now if you could just stop defending Apple’s mistakes so they can be fixed, that’d be great.
Seriously, Give me a break.
Did you forget the problems Apple had under Jobs? Remember you’re holding it wrong? This was a design flaw in the iPhone to the point they had to offer a free bumper case. The iPhone is the most MAJOR product in the world and they screwed it up. This is an accessory 99% of people forgot was going to exist.
You also ignored several post Jobs innovations, such as Airpods, Watch, silicon, and iPad.
As usual, you’re with everyone overreacting. This isn’t a good look, but it’s a freaking charging accessory that was never going to move the needle. It was cancelled (correctly) when it was clear the project was doomed. Better to cancel and lose a tiny bit of credibility than to launch a product with problems and get headlines for burning down a house.
Your opinion. If it were anywhere near as bad as it is portrayed here, they would have done something major about it.
You can’t sell 20M Macs annually with broken keyboards. Simply can’t. It’s overreaction, echo chamber here.
If you really think that people are only upset because if Airpower, you’re naive.Because of a charging mat and after making Apple more valuable than Steve Jobs could ever had dreamed of.
Sure..