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"It's going to be a whole lot more iOS," said Gottheil of Mountain Lion, "and shows that the iPhone is basically the gateway drug to all things Apple."

To which I say...very discouraging, if not exactly a surprise.


http://goo.gl/Eg2qE
 
A name is a rose, and it only smells as sweet as you are.

Is the main hard drive icon still named "Macintosh HD"?

I think it will soon just be called "HD" and all traces of the word "Mac" will gradually disappear. When you go to the Apple menu, the first item will say "About this". Not longer after, we will have the "Book Pro" and the "Book Air". Next, the move will come to the desktop machines, the "Pro" and the "i". And the last thing to happen will be the third tab at the top of Apple's homepage will go blank, which will make it easier to eliminate once they stop selling computers....

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Can yall do a collection of "more info" type things like:

- iCal is now Calendar
- Address Book is now Contacts
- Mac OS X is now OS X
- Safari now has omni search
- etc

I don't like the way they change stuff like that. What was wrong with old names? This will only mess everything up. Oh, I understand - there are loads of potential iOS to Mac halo switchers who might be surprised that Calendar is called iCal. What kind of sorcery is that!? I just hope, they won't rename System prefs to Settings too. Keep the little things the way they are and just add some new useful features and - this is important - improve the overall stability!

iOSation of MacOS X is getting excessive. This is exactly what MS is planning to do with their Windows 8 - unify tablet and desktop OS. That's BAD.
Please, Apple don't drop "Mac" from the name. When you ask someone, which OS do they use, they say "Mac" not "OSX". That's ludicrous...

But if it has to be, why to keep the "X" as a part of a name, when it actually stands for number 10?
Mac OS 10.8 Mountain Lion. Sweet...

This whole thing reminds me of my friend's father who was utterly surprised by absence of IE on the iPad. He said - "For an unknown reason, here they renamed Internet Explorer to Safari...." :D
 
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A quote:

"It's going to be a whole lot more iOS," said Gottheil of Mountain Lion, "and shows that the iPhone is basically the gateway drug to all things Apple."

To which I say...very discouraging, if not exactly a surprise.


http://goo.gl/Eg2qE
That link in particular troubles me. More and more I see companies wanting consumers to embrace cloud computing under this notion that it's so much more convenient than having actual possession of the data on your computer.

I love the way iCal synchs on multiple devices, and I'm sure for other applications it works great, but I really fear the day that the majority of computers ship with NO form of data storage and instead give the companies you bought them from COMPLETE control of the data that used to be stored on a hard drive inside your computer.
 
I think once the OS's become one and the same, across all platforms (like windows 8), it may just be called something like Apple OS.

You still have the hardware, called a Macintosh or an iPhone, but they run Apple OS.
 
I really fear the day that the majority of computers ship with NO form of data storage and instead give the companies you bought them from COMPLETE control of the data that used to be stored on a hard drive inside your computer.

Agreed!

And that's the precise reason why I have invested in a very comprehensive, ultra secure (not connected to the web) home network. With NAS backup and redundant storage, I am very well protected in my own closed system.

While I use the cloud services for general work, and for the convenience of easy access from my any of my laptops & multiple smartphones etc, I never entrust anything of sensitive nature to any cloud service.

In the event I cannot connect with the cloud, I have everything on my local network. It's the only way I find peace of mind.
 
I take pride in buying a Mac.
So it makes me feel bad when Apple doesn't acknowledge that it sells the 10th version of the OS for Macs, because as far as I know, Mac OS X doesn't run on anything else other than a Mac / Hackintosh.
 
I don't like the way they change stuff like that. What was wrong with old names? This will only mess everything up. Oh, I understand - there are loads of potential iOS to Mac halo switchers who might be surprised that Calendar is called iCal. What kind of sorcery is that!? I just hope, they won't rename System prefs to Settings too. Keep the little things the way they are and just add some new useful features and - this is important - improve the overall stability!

Why is iCal and iChat, but Mail and Address Book? This isn’t just about consistency between iOS and OS X, but between related apps on OS X. Streamlining, uniformity and consistency are good things. I actually do hope they change System Preferences to Settings.
 
Initially, I thought Apple should move the X to be in front of OS (to make it more like iOS,) but then it occurred to me that people would pronounce that as something a little like "exhaust". Not the greatest word to sound like.
 
No, there IS something dumb about it.
It's the company changing their name just to imply they're no longer the service they orriginally were before.

Take BP for example. They used to be British Petroleum. But with the rising cost of oil, that sort of name can have negative connotations. So they change their name to BP and say their trade is "energy" and change their logo in to a green-energy-friendly-looking sunflower, which is meant to imply that oil production and distribution is just ONE of the MANY things they do as a company... even though the business spends the vast majority of their money on fossil fuels and a comparably tiny percentage on other forms of "energy".

Now, you can be a fanboy and defend these practices as just an improvement over the "cumbersome" ways of the past and claim "no one" calls their Mac operating system "Mac OS X" anymore until the cows come home, but you'll just be sucked in to the consumerism trap these corporations have laid out for you.

Consumerism trap? It's a name of an operating system. If Apple's intention is to cross applications between iDevices and computers, then OS X is more sensible then Mac OS X.

Take a look at comparisons between Microsoft Windows 8 and OS X Mountain Lion. The reviews will say "Windows 8" vs "Mountain Lion", or "Windows vs OS X", or, for the non-computer savvy, "Apple" vs "Windows". It's a matter of opinion, of course, and the Mac vs PC comparison is still huge, but there's no foul in dropping the "Mac", as OS X is simply a more popular term.

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Why is iCal and iChat, but Mail and Address Book? This isn’t just about consistency between iOS and OS X, but between related apps on OS X. Streamlining, uniformity and consistency are good things. I actually do hope they change System Preferences to Settings.

Agreed. iCal is a product name. You don't got buy iCal; it's an app that comes on the mac. Calling the app "Calendar" makes more sense to match the iOS applications that interface with each other. The same applies to Messages as it interfaces with the messaging app on iOS.
 
Long time lurker, finally registered....

Although I am not a fan of the name change, I could see this coming and even Apple hinted at it with Lion, and it only makes sense from a business standpoint.

After 10.5, most of the new features pushed in 10.6, 10.7, and now 10.8, are aimed at blatantly broadcasting the similarities and ease of use between all apple products.

This is likely just a marketing scheme, to continue pushing more people that have only owned apple products in the form of "i" device into purchasing a Macintosh that likely otherwise they would not.

If you have been to an Apple store before 2007, and been to one lately, I don't have to explain the demographic change in apple's customer base....

:(

The Apple store near me has turned into a Kindergarten at weekends and hence i avoid.

Exactly.

I remember when I went down and bought a brand new MBP after they killed the powerbook, and ibook product lines, and having some really great conversations with some of the employees regarding history of mac hardware etc.

Now it seems the store reps are mindless sales zombies, with no real knowledge of what they are selling beyond what they can touch on the screen of their idevice.

If anyone has beta tested Windows 8, you can see that it is also a travesty, as it should be, Windows 7 was basically 10.5 done windows style, so I am not surprised that the beta builds of 8 are looking like Microsoft's attempt at growing their mobile device market share by copying Apple's approach in the OS department even more now than ever before.

EDIT:

Haha, I went to google news and look what the first trending article was in tech news:

"Apple, Microsoft to duel in '12 with OS upgrades"

"It looks like both have the mobile OS religion"

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224334/Apple_Microsoft_to_duel_in_12_with_OS_upgrades
 
You know, people used to make fun of Windows because of the literally endless software updates and major versions being released. Now we have Apple going through major revisions at almost one a year and I don't doubt they will use that cycle to start removing hardware support for "Macs" at a faster rate, particularly if they combine the iOS and OSX operating systems in name/protocol.

Frankly, I can't keep up. I have thus seen no useful reason to update my MBP to Lion so far (let alone Mountain Lion) other than new software will eventually simply stop supporting older versions of the operating system. I don't care for changing my OS constantly. It tends to result in instability and spending too much time playing around with OS changes instead of getting actual work done.

Throw in the Gatekeeper GARBAGE being introduced in Mountain Lion and I can see that my predictions of Apple eventually wiping out ALL freedom of software installation is definitely slowly coming true. People down-voted me and told me I was full of it, but it IS true. They are definitely trying to turn the entire Mac platform into iOS controlled territory where Apple decides what you CAN and CANNOT run on your home computer. Time to move back to Windows, after all, I see. Apple has become BIG BROTHER (here I was worried about Microsoft all these years).
 
Initially, I thought Apple should move the X to be in front of OS (to make it more like iOS,) but then it occurred to me that people would pronounce that as something a little like "exhaust". Not the greatest word to sound like.

Won't matter to me none. I already call OSX "Ossicx" because I got tired of all the people who would say "It's OH ESS TEN, not OH ESS ECKS".

Ten? X? Whatever. It's Ossicx now. :mad:
 
I have an iPhone and iPad. But because I'm forced to use a Wintel PC at work every day my home computer is Wintel. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Apple is going after all of us who use iOS devices but don't own a Mac. I don't think a desktop OS should be dumbed down to the level of mobile OS but if there was a convergence to get the best of both on each device I'm sure you'd see an increase in sales of Macs. Maybe that's happening already.
 
You know, people used to make fun of Windows because of the literally endless software updates and major versions being released. Now we have Apple going through major revisions at almost one a year and I don't doubt they will use that cycle to start removing hardware support for "Macs" at a faster rate, particularly if they combine the iOS and OSX operating systems in name/protocol.

Frankly, I can't keep up. I have thus seen no useful reason to update my MBP to Lion so far (let alone Mountain Lion) other than new software will eventually simply stop supporting older versions of the operating system. I don't care for changing my OS constantly. It tends to result in instability and spending too much time playing around with OS changes instead of getting actual work done.

Throw in the Gatekeeper GARBAGE being introduced in Mountain Lion and I can see that my predictions of Apple eventually wiping out ALL freedom of software installation is definitely slowly coming true. People down-voted me and told me I was full of it, but it IS true. They are definitely trying to turn the entire Mac platform into iOS controlled territory where Apple decides what you CAN and CANNOT run on your home computer. Time to move back to Windows, after all, I see. Apple has become BIG BROTHER (here I was worried about Microsoft all these years).

Hey, at least your PROTECTED more with GateKeeper from bad apps and malware. And don't worry, Apple will never fully merge OSX and iOS together because they understand people need to get work done, not sit around and play.

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I have an iPhone and iPad. But because I'm forced to use a Wintel PC at work every day my home computer is Wintel. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Apple is going after all of us who use iOS devices but don't own a Mac. I don't think a desktop OS should be dumbed down to the level of mobile OS but if there was a convergence to get the best of both on each device I'm sure you'd see an increase in sales of Macs. Maybe that's happening already.

They are not "dumbing-down" They are actually keeping the OS intact, while adding iOS-like features. That was me when Apple announced Lion, I was like "NO, iOS and Mac OSX merging!". Then after 3 months, I got used to it. Everyone will like Mountain Lion since it's just Lion with added features.
 
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