Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
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Apple Officially Selects North Carolina for New $1 Billion Data Center
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Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
I dont live or work there so I wouldn't know.
"...Of course, there are drawbacks to having a data center many thousands of miles from the United States. For some applications, a data center in Iceland, Asia or Europe may not be appropriate because of latency issues. It's important to remember, too, that the geothermal energy from Iceland is made possible because the country is one of the most volcanically active in the world. By contrast, Oregon and Washington are very boring and safe, geologically speaking."
http://www.serverwatch.com/trends/article.php/3784941
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Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
On average, power in NC is relativity cheap compared to some other US states. There are 11 nuclear reactors in North Carolina and South Carolina.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table5_6_a.html
Here is a link to an artical about MS data center in Texas. It should give you a good understanding of what a data center is and what is involved in settting one up.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/data_centers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208403723
As for Apple, I don't think they have said what this one will be used for.
Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
what's the start up cost for building one? how much per kw of electricity? what's the tax rate? etc etc
Yep. I think that one is on the extreme high end and IMHO Apples will not be that big. But until they say what their using it for, it's hard to speculate how big or what type of equipment it will house.
i was just telling him that it might end up costing more. it's like buying a $150k hybrid car
Does that mean this time next year, Mobile Me won't be so freakin' slow in NY? I'm soooooo close to dropping it. I can't stand how slow my iDisk is anymore, or iWeb publishing. I've convinced myself for 3 years that MobileMe is the way to go, but I don't know how much more I can take. I'm slowly losing my patient with it.
Given that Apple has not even broken ground, doubt if this center will be operational this time next year. The good news is that the internet backbone runs right through NC, so they should get a good connection (less latency) so throughput should be good for this center. It remains to be seen if Mobleme will be run from this center.
I'm surprised something like this wasn't done a long time ago by Apple.
Their headquarters is on the West Coast with many hours behind of the East Coast.
This would disperse the bandwidth load for OSX updates, Me.com, iPhone, iTunes store etc...
plus could it mean they would have better customer support hours for a wider range of shifts...that is if does include customer support staff/call center.
Their headquarters is on the West Coast with many hours behind of the East Coast.
This would disperse the bandwidth load for OSX updates, Me.com, iPhone, iTunes store etc...
plus could it mean they would have better customer support hours for a wider range of shifts...that is if does include customer support staff/call center.
Most of the jobs would come from the construction of it. Generally not that many people work at a data center, depending on the size.
Iceland and Europe
A few years ago I visited Iceland and listen to the national telecom explain what a great place Iceland is for a datacenter since they sit on some of the cables linking North America and Europe. Turns out the Icelandic government is trying to attract datacenters:
http://www.invest.is/Investment-Opportunities/Data-Centers-in-Iceland/
The main point is how they have good connections to both North America and Europe so you can serve clients in both areas well with one center. It is also interesting to see the other arguments they list, such as political stability. And of course cheap electricity.
Eventually Apple will have to start investing more seriously in Europe too if they want to be see their global market share rise. Right now it is very much an American company and not at all as global as Microsoft, Google, HP and so on. Google just bought an old paper mill (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/12/google-buys-a-paper-mill/) here in Finland and are going to turn it into an enormous data center. They have centers all over the world.
A few years ago I visited Iceland and listen to the national telecom explain what a great place Iceland is for a datacenter since they sit on some of the cables linking North America and Europe. Turns out the Icelandic government is trying to attract datacenters:
http://www.invest.is/Investment-Opportunities/Data-Centers-in-Iceland/
The main point is how they have good connections to both North America and Europe so you can serve clients in both areas well with one center. It is also interesting to see the other arguments they list, such as political stability. And of course cheap electricity.
Eventually Apple will have to start investing more seriously in Europe too if they want to be see their global market share rise. Right now it is very much an American company and not at all as global as Microsoft, Google, HP and so on. Google just bought an old paper mill (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/12/google-buys-a-paper-mill/) here in Finland and are going to turn it into an enormous data center. They have centers all over the world.
There will be many jobs created to build and outfit this site. Construction has been hit really hard in this part of the country. Once operational there will be fewer jobs then during construction - the article says ~50 permanent.
Wasnt MobileMe introduced last year?
MobileMe was but .Mac was around before MobileMe.
Yes but isn't mobileme a complete overhaul of the .Mac service? (that was my understanding, I havn't used any).
Exactly... There's a first for everything...
Edit to add: where is the power coming from in NC then?
They still could have geothermal energy in NC, it tends to be everywhere. Also who is to say that they aren't thinking of other alternative solutions, i.e. wind, solar, hydro.
Most likely they'll go the conventional route, but the main point is they are keeping jobs in America.
Well it is a data center. Putting a data center in a different country wouldn't help the bandwidth in the US much.
Exactly.. anyone who thinks they did this to "support America" is kidding themselves. If there weren't bandwidth and latency concerns, the datacenter would be next to a coal plant in Mumbai
They could, but the costs would be passed directly on to consumers (or the company would avoid the area entirely). How many people would be willing to pay 25-50% more for the stuff they buy from Wallyworld?