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Let me guess, bluescreen with some Video Scheduler Internal Error ?

I have that constantly in the beta. I think it is something with nVidea drivers and browser hardware acceleration. When I watched some YouTube before opening the app I always get this bluescreen.

Also great to see that you STILL have to restart the app if you change audio sources. Something every Windows app has figured out since 2007. The windows app developers they have employed must be the worst on earth or they are trolling us. Oh well...
I have never had this...I have it loaded on a RTX 4060 laptop...well I have the restart if you change audio source...just never had a blue screen.
 
Let me guess, bluescreen with some Video Scheduler Internal Error ?

I have that constantly in the beta. I think it is something with nVidea drivers and browser hardware acceleration. When I watched some YouTube before opening the app I always get this bluescreen.

Also great to see that you STILL have to restart the app if you change audio sources. Something every Windows app has figured out since 2007. The windows app developers they have employed must be the worst on earth or they are trolling us. Oh well...

No only the freeze app and couldnt move the cursor over the taskbar.
 
So...this is the end of the iTunes branding, right? I haven't seen many pointing that out.
 
The iTunes app for Windows never felt that robust to me.
I could have worded that better, I'm not saying it was robust - my point is it would have been better for iTunes to be a central app for music/movies - make the needed improvements but I'm not a fan of having functionality split across 3 apps when one app will suffice.
 
iTunes for windows was never, ever a robust app... it is the worst software Ive ever had the pleasure of using. Out of linux, MacOS and windows....
I didn't say it was robust and that certainly wasn't an intended implication. I didn't enjoy using quicktime and iTunes on windows isn't my favorite either. The point is it could have been designed better to make a seamless user experience - the functionality of 3 apps should and could fit into one if they wanted.
 
Does the new app allow you to add a FLAC file to your music library or is it still limited to 2003’s finest audio formats?
The new Apple Devices app for Windows includes the file transfer functions that are available in iTunes for Windows. The Apple Devices app is one way to transfer FLAC files to your iPhone and/or iPad and then use your favorite media app(s) to play them. You don't have to maintain your music library(ies) in Apple's proprietary Apple Music apps on or off your Apple device. And since you're quite concerned about format compatibility and archiving it probably doesn't make sense to choose Apple's proprietary music library format even if you could. (It'd be better to archive play counts, playlists, and other music library-related metadata in a nonproprietary format, if possible.)
 
The new Apple Devices app for Windows includes the file transfer functions that are available in iTunes for Windows. The Apple Devices app is one way to transfer FLAC files to your iPhone and/or iPad and then use your favorite media app(s) to play them. You don't have to maintain your music library(ies) in Apple's proprietary Apple Music apps on or off your Apple device. And since you're quite concerned about format compatibility and archiving it probably doesn't make sense to choose Apple's proprietary music library format even if you could. (It'd be better to archive play counts, playlists, and other music library-related metadata in a nonproprietary format, if possible.)
The problem with having your files sandboxed in a 3rd party app is that you lose out on all the native features of the iOS music library. So this is not an appropriate alternative for native support of the format either. It’s disappointing to me that Apple continues to treat modern music enthusiasts like a 3rd class citizen. It’s a pretty basic file format that no other hardware/software developer has an issue with in 2024, and I would expect better from the world’s biggest “tech” corporation.
 
Maybe I'm getting old, but it's a common observation that UI-Design is much worse than it used to be some 20 years ago. Bloated GUIs for simple uses like browsing a searchable list, buttons and other interactive elements deceived as graphical decoration and no understandable interaction model for the data to work with.

Apple lost one of their core competencies here, but the worst is my PS5, which makes me feel like my parents on their mobile whenever I try to achieve the simplest things there.
 
So now we have to use the Apple Music app to put our own music library in, then use the Devices app to sync them to our devices. Also the Devices app doesn’t support Sync via WiFi, so you have to plug your phone into the PC for each sync :-(
 
Maybe I'm getting old, but it's a common observation that UI-Design is much worse than it used to be some 20 years ago. Bloated GUIs for simple uses like browsing a searchable list, buttons and other interactive elements deceived as graphical decoration and no understandable interaction model for the data to work with.

Apple lost one of their core competencies here, but the worst is my PS5, which makes me feel like my parents on their mobile whenever I try to achieve the simplest things there.

We are all victims of user interface research studies which appear to lack basic knowledge of statistics and user interface design. There is a pervasive trend in this area which suggests "less is more" when it comes to user interfaces because it takes less time to work out which thing to do when there's less of it. This of course is tried only on new user panels who never have any skill or interest past getting their £50 or whatever to be experimented on for an hour or two. What happens is everything is tailored for people with zero long term memory and zero ability to retain skills for more than a couple of hours. This kills power user workflows and reusable knowledge across everything and drives over-simplification.

Apple are surprisingly one of the least bad in this space. They at least have logical consistency in most places. Windows is a ****ing mess.

The worst bit of UI is the screenshot annotation toolbar on macOS. Absolute crap. Nothing works how you expect it to.

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Similarity between Macs and Windows is nice. Good to have these new apps.
 
We are all victims of user interface research studies which appear to lack basic knowledge of statistics and user interface design. There is a pervasive trend in this area which suggests "less is more" when it comes to user interfaces because it takes less time to work out which thing to do when there's less of it. This of course is tried only on new user panels who never have any skill or interest past getting their £50 or whatever to be experimented on for an hour or two. What happens is everything is tailored for people with zero long term memory and zero ability to retain skills for more than a couple of hours. This kills power user workflows and reusable knowledge across everything and drives over-simplification.

Apple are surprisingly one of the least bad in this space. They at least have logical consistency in most places. Windows is a ****ing mess.

The worst bit of UI is the screenshot annotation toolbar on macOS. Absolute crap. Nothing works how you expect it to.

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Curious how windows is a mess, granted I have much more experience with windows but i find it largely more intuitive in a number of ways.
 
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Curious how windows is a mess, granted I have much more experience with windows but i find it largely more intuitive in a number of ways.

I use windows on a very regular basis:
  1. Problems with File Explorer on windows 11. Lag, bugs.
  2. Right click menu inconsistency between windows 10 and 11
  3. Licensing hell on Office 365 resulting in signing into multiple accounts. My daughter's entire desktop PC got hosed the other day by an MDM policy inherited from an O365 mandatory sign in to view a document. Default option is to sign into everything with that and if you accidentally click it, you're screwed.
  4. Very broken updates that hose machines. We got an update roll out that bricked 200 people's machines by dropping the bitlocker key.
  5. Forcing Copilot at you.
  6. Upselling and advertising forced at you all the time in Edge and Windows itself.
  7. Crapware bundled with it such as the sidebar, bing search.
  8. Invasive telemetry you can't opt out of.
  9. Impossible to use a machine without signing into it.
  10. Utterly inferior built in apps, particularly photos. That's just the worst thing in the world.
  11. New outlook doesn't work offline at all like the old one does and everyone just had that shoved down their throats on the normal channel.
  12. WSL2 VMs occasionally go crazy and blow out 4 cores of your CPU when no processes are running unless you wsl --shutdown the whole damn thing which means you have to start what you are doing again several times a day.
  13. My god have you tried having a laptop which has 200% scaling (I have a very top end Dell Precision 7670 with OLED display) and plug it into a 4K display that uses 150% scaling. Half the apps collapse into a heap.
  14. Absolutely no way of sync'ing contacts to Android via outlook in any possible way unless you pay for O365 business.
  15. OneDrive data loss after sync problems (regular issue).
  16. The fact it can empty a 90Wh battery in 2h with an i7-12850HX CPU not doing anything.
I could go on for ages but I'm out of breath.

The input methodology is much better though. That's about it.
 
I hate the apple music app. hate the Apple TV app. Gave them an honest shot. They are just so much worse than iTunes. Every time I try to get siri to play music that I own it auto defaults to Apple Music which I do not have. Whole thing is designed to get you to subscribe. Such a bummer from Apple.
 
I don’t think the Music App is too bad but the sorting of albums is rubbish. I have 2 Albums from the same artist from the same year. I sorted them in iTunes as 1976/04 and 1976/09. This worked well. But in the music app they are in reverse order showing the 09 before the 04. No matter how I change the sorting tab they will not show in the correct order. I deleted the music app and will stick with iTunes for now. If anyone knows how to sort these albums any help would be appreciated. By the way these are Albums I have ripped myself I don’t subscribe to Apple Music. Thanks.
 
The killer for me is the absence of Home Sharing in the new TV App. I use that every day to stream downloaded media from my Mac to my Windows PC
 
With all due respect, I really can’t be bothered to explain this again and again every single time the topic comes up. The issues are well documented at this point. It comes down to compression efficiency, hardware/software support, and data integrity. I do encourage you to do your research on the differences between them, which go beyond their capability to losslessly compress PCM audio, but if you are happy with what you currently have then maybe it’s not a tree worth barking up.

Since ALAC as it currently exists can not be considered an archival quality format, I personally will not be using ALAC for any reason. If Apple ever decides to support FLAC like literally everyone else in this segment of the market, great. That’s what my archive is remaining as.

Yeah. You’ve been harping about this for a while.
 
I have never had this...I have it loaded on a RTX 4060 laptop...well I have the restart if you change audio source...just never had a blue screen.
I actually do get occasional blue screens with “video scheduling error” on my PC with a 5900x and 3090ti, and the only common denominator was the beta Apple Music app.

It would often crash when I had Apple Music app open and tried to open another application, seems an optimization issue, as I’ve seen other posts elsewhere on it.

Hoping this “official” launch has fixed that.
 
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I actually do get occasional blue screens with “video scheduling error” on my PC with a 5900x and 3090ti, and the only common denominator was the beta Apple Music app.

It would often crash when I had Apple Music app open and tried to open another application, seems an optimization issue, as I’ve seen other posts elsewhere on it.

Hoping this “official” launch has fixed that.
Interesting, I have it playing in the backgroun with Teamfight Tactics and Discord...all working great? I will say I didn't load any of the nVidia crap. Just used the simple driver.
 
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