Sadly more people here are just rabid fanboys. Just go by the facts, love my macbook pro but they really screwed up this iphone version. And finding out they've been boosting signal levels in the UI is just sad.
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Apple on iPhone 4 Reception: Signal Strength Display Issue Only, Software Update Coming
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Sadly more people here are just rabid fanboys. Just go by the facts, love my macbook pro but they really screwed up this iphone version. And finding out they've been boosting signal levels in the UI is just sad.
Really...
It seems simple enough. If you don't believe it can be fixed by a software update, take it back. Otherwise bitchin won't do much for you other than getting it off your chest. Take it back or get a case and quit your bitchin.
It seems simple enough. If you don't believe it can be fixed by a software update, take it back. Otherwise bitchin won't do much for you other than getting it off your chest. Take it back or get a case and quit your bitchin.
Exactly. Apple thinks that we're stupid. Think that they can just tweak the meter to display more bars and we'll believe it. But people have been experiencing dropped calls and 3G data stopping immediately as soon as they touch the antenna, which it's impossible to not touch it if you are holding it.
You now know one- me, SE MI... And that is with 3G data connection problems, not Signal strength issues. Lastly, if you are saying you have had ZERO 3G data outages in the last week in SE MI- I do not believe you, at all.
So true, I was wondering where on earth that came from as well jW.
Print the
letter, bring in your box to AT&T, and kindly ask for a full refund. You will get it.I know this has been posted but it needs to be posted a million more times:
http://gizmodo.com/5577812/why-apples-iphone-4-update-wont-fix-your-reception-problem
http://gizmodo.com/5577812/why-apples-iphone-4-update-wont-fix-your-reception-problem
I guess my dropped calls and ZERO 3G data is an illusion then?
Droid X - here I come. No more Apple products for me. I drank the kool-aid and started buying everything Apple - I should have known better.
Apple was supposed be freedom but actually it turned out to be a micro-managed cluster....
Droid X - here I come. No more Apple products for me. I drank the kool-aid and started buying everything Apple - I should have known better.
Apple was supposed be freedom but actually it turned out to be a micro-managed cluster....
Honestly, you need to stop whining about the bull**** response from Apple and return your iPhones for a full refund.
Nothing will be fixed until the iPhones are retuened in their hundreds of thousands. Apple will then fix the hardware issue and you can get a new iPhone then. If you don't return the iPhone within 30 days, you'll be left with a lemon, which will never work and will be worth no more than a 2nd hand iPod Touch.
What odds can I get on the iPhone 5 not having such a crap antennae design ?? They know it will be the first thing the reviewers check, and the product will bomb if it fails.
Nothing will be fixed until the iPhones are retuened in their hundreds of thousands. Apple will then fix the hardware issue and you can get a new iPhone then. If you don't return the iPhone within 30 days, you'll be left with a lemon, which will never work and will be worth no more than a 2nd hand iPod Touch.
What odds can I get on the iPhone 5 not having such a crap antennae design ?? They know it will be the first thing the reviewers check, and the product will bomb if it fails.
So, I am to believe just a bunch of kiddos that may also be part of the whole mess and not Apple? Why? And last time I remember, there is an investigation for them going on...
Cell towers radiate outwards, not down. In the shadow of a tower on the roof, inside a commercial building of concrete and steel and cabling, may not be a particularly strong signal area.
You now know one- me, SE MI... And that is with 3G data connection problems, not Signal strength issues. Lastly, if you are saying you have had ZERO 3G data outages in the last week in SE MI- I do not believe you, at all.
So true, I was wondering where on earth that came from as well jW.
Print the
Why would someone lie about whether or not they have reception issues..... we picked up 3 on launch day in Troy around 2pm, after reports of the "antenna issue" began to surface. I tested the 3 of them in the mall parking lot, on US23 northbound towards fenton, in fenton and tested my own in saginaw. No issues what-so-ever. I have polled my friends to see if they are experiencing these issues - they are not. Said friends are in Saginaw, Bay City, Flint, Ann Arbor, Clarkston, and Waterford.
so.. yeah.
Sam, I appreciate the comment. Believe me, I wanted this phone to be perfect. The speed, battery life and iOS4 are great. I waited 5 hours in the reservation line for it. However, I can not accept locking myself to an AT&T contract for two yeas with a faulty phone.
Perhaps you should stop writing things that you have no idea about. YOUR iP4 might work just fine. That doesn't mean everyone's does.
But an iPhone 3GS has 5 bars and doesn't drop calls at the exact same location.
Glad they finally said something even if its ludicrous - printing out the information, currently backing up the iP4 for boxing up and returning to AT&T this afternoon.
I'll use my phone upgrade credit when the 4.5 comes out in a couple months.
I really haven't had any problems making and getting calls on the phone. Even in low service areas. However after looking at the layout of the antenna I can see why there might be problems. Now it has been a long time since I have had any electronics classes but I seem to remember that it was not a good thing to let antennas touch. As there is the possibility of attenuation or even worse a canceling effect. This does not happen if the antennas are electrically separated, but when you hold the phone you are passing the signal through your hand to the other antennas, one or both. I have tried holding the phone with either hand and it does not seem to be worse with the left hand. Even when cupping the phone with the right there is signal loss. Now my experience is not as dramatic as what is on youtube. But I don't have a high moisture content to my hands which electrically is a factor in how well you conduct. So if you have sweaty palms you are providing a better "short" between antennas. 
This is why people with edge protecting cases report little or no problem with signal loss. If you look closely to each antenna is electrically protected from the other, as I am sure each is tuned to carry a specific signal. Even in the ifixit tear down this is really obvious.
I would try holding the phone with rubber gloves on and see if you are still having problems. Most likely you will have non. Which means this is one of those engineering a "mistakes". I like talking to engineers, but sometimes getting them understand that calculations and the real world don't always match is hard. So what they had calculated for the attenuation/canceling via hand holding of the phone probably where an ideal condition. Then when people where testing them, they needed camouflage, so every tested phone was being held in a case, effectively insulating the antennas from the hand.
Sounds like apple should just give everyone edge protectors for free.
This is why people with edge protecting cases report little or no problem with signal loss. If you look closely to each antenna is electrically protected from the other, as I am sure each is tuned to carry a specific signal. Even in the ifixit tear down this is really obvious.I would try holding the phone with rubber gloves on and see if you are still having problems. Most likely you will have non. Which means this is one of those engineering a "mistakes". I like talking to engineers, but sometimes getting them understand that calculations and the real world don't always match is hard. So what they had calculated for the attenuation/canceling via hand holding of the phone probably where an ideal condition. Then when people where testing them, they needed camouflage, so every tested phone was being held in a case, effectively insulating the antennas from the hand.
Sounds like apple should just give everyone edge protectors for free.
when a product is FLAWED and designed improperly, it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to fix it, not for the consumer to just say "oh well.. i guess i'll deal with it".
i assure you this issue is not going to go away, and will lead to an influx of returned phones, and bad PR for apple. i dont care what you have to say, but i hope apple is paying attention to how many base customers it just pissed off.
Yet I have had nothing but problems in Ann Arbor, and so has my wife. There you go.