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I love how the apple fanboys have gone from, "there isn't a problem", to "you're holding it wrong", to "buy a case" and now we're at "just return it for a refund". Never wrong are they?
 
Why would someone lie about whether or not they have reception issues..... we picked up 3 on launch day in Troy around 2pm, after reports of the "antenna issue" began to surface. I tested the 3 of them in the mall parking lot, on US23 northbound towards fenton, in fenton and tested my own in saginaw. No issues what-so-ever. I have polled my friends to see if they are experiencing these issues - they are not. Said friends are in Saginaw, Bay City, Flint, Ann Arbor, Clarkston, and Waterford.

so.. yeah.

Lansing two phones don't work. So, there goes that theory.
 
Android on my 1st gen iPod touch

This doesn't fix the fact that the moment I touch the "gap" my data over 3G stops instantly (as seen in the video in my sig).

Steve
Before I try this, pls educate me (non-Android lay person).
What does this "give" me? What does having Android on my iPT do for me that is different or better than what it does now?

I'm interested and curious.

Thanks.

Mary
 
Might I suggest that it would be better for everybody to keep their mouths shut until after the fix has been issued and thus avoid looking like an arse if it actually does resolve the issue?
 
This is complete bull**** I have 3 iPhone 4 and two of them suffer problems and the otherone dosent so it can't be signal issues. Is hardware issues. Wtf

Return or exchange your bad phones.

Also, have you tried the electrical tape fix on the sim cards in your bad phones ? It has corrected dropped signals for many users (the signal meter is a another issue).
 
May be it's a combination of
- different antenna design and thus the human affects more the signal (that is a fact with cell phones)
- poor signal seeing as good by the software in the phone or the reverse
- software in the phone about switching to different to another base tower (without actually need to do this) when the signal changes leading to a drop

a lot of things in cell phones are based in software (and how it is combined with hardware)

maybe a soft update will fixed it... if you can wait...
 
My god, there are a lot of stupid people on this forum.

Apple's statements do not contradict each other. The first statement about all phones dropping signal when held in the hand is still true. It's been recognised that the iPhone 4 has a tendency to do this in a particular way, and if this is a problem for you then hold it differently or use a bumper as suggested.

The latest statement is explaining why the signal drop can appear to be so dramatic, and this is due to the algorithm used for the five-bar indicator on the phone display. This reports signal strength in a misleading way, so it can appear that you get a huge signal drop when you hold the phone in a particular way, whereas in actual fact the signal strength was already low and the drop is not very dramatic at all. A software update is going to fix this soon.

And finally, they reasonably point out that if you really are not happy with the iPhone 4 in any way, simply return it for a refund. Seems reasonable enough to me! It's not rocket science, guys.

I hope you are lumping yourself in with the "stupid" as you pit it. Because you have clearly dismissed the reception problem as a non-problem because Apple says so.

Stop taking the crazy pills. Remove the blinders. People like you are the very reason companies like Apple get lawsuits. People search for answers and you insist there is a problem that they themselves have created. If Apple can swap out my current iPhone 4 for a phone that works (btw bumpers are showing no signs of help in many case - search around) and I'll gladly swap out. Don't tell me to stand with my arms spread out, curl my hands, and pray everytime I want to make a call because that's how the phone was designed.

Lastly don't call people stupid. It's not nice. My 4 year old niece understands that, why don't you? Be nice.
 
Honestly, you need to stop whining about the bull**** response from Apple and return your iPhones for a full refund.

Nothing will be fixed until the iPhones are retuened in their hundreds of thousands. Apple will then fix the hardware issue and you can get a new iPhone then. If you don't return the iPhone within 30 days, you'll be left with a lemon, which will never work and will be worth no more than a 2nd hand iPod Touch.

What odds can I get on the iPhone 5 not having such a crap antennae design ?? They know it will be the first thing the reviewers check, and the product will bomb if it fails.
Actually, you're wrong and condescending (a particularly obnoxious combination). Whenever Apple is forced to fess up about this, the fix or replacement for the antenna issue will be covered by warranty.
 
it's funny how fanboys don't like to see people complain about apple products.

It ruins their enjoyment and ability to fight Android fanboys. Just return it, shut up, and eliminate the datapoint. It's like killing the dumb kids in class to raise test scores.
 
No company, I don't care whom, after selling 1.7 million anything, in a week, is going to admit there is a major problem. Not even a Chinese Drywall compnay. I have not had issues with my reception to this point. I do have an iFrogz case on my phone that I bought for protection and not for the antennae issue. But, none the less, I am holding my phone the same way I have held my phone for 12 years. Just like everyone else. That was the suggested first fix. Then the comment that there is no issue from Steve, followed by, we are working on it, is ludacris. Why would you work on something that had no issue? Now the bars aren't right. I remember a fix on my 3G after I got it because the bars weren't right. So those little bars on the upper left corner are n't high enough or low enough and that is making people lose calls. Since this is my first post and I just checked the box agreeing to follow the rules, and not use obscene language, I will just say "something is rotten in Denmark" Does Denmark have the iPhone yet. I also find it inappropriate for other forum members to tell posters to stop their whining and just return the phone. For the price of the phone and a two year contract I will whine like hell. Every one acts like Jobs walks on water, and line up for hours to see his keynote speechs and then he won't man up when there is a real problem. To offer a software fix for onscreen bars, when calls are being dropped is bunk.
 
and you sound like a blathering idiot. when a product is FLAWED and designed improperly, it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to fix it, not for the consumer to just say "oh well.. i guess i'll deal with it".

i assure you this issue is not going to go away, and will lead to an influx of returned phones, and bad PR for apple. i dont care what you have to say, but i hope apple is paying attention to how many base customers it just pissed off.

No one is forcing you to deal with it. Return the phone if you're unsatisfied. If you no longer own an IP4, then there is nothing to deal with. End of story. Now, go hold mommy's hand and get a tissue.
 
Ok, for starters I've seen the signal bars drop on my iPhone 4 when holding it, although it hasn't dropped a call yet. So really, I'm happy with my phone. I recently put a bumper on it, but that was for protection and to make it less slick in my hand-- not to fix any reception problem.

But still. This press release makes me facepalm. "We've fixed it! Not only did we make it so you get less bars in more places, but we're making the bars bigger! So you'll get one bar but it'll be a BIG bar!"

This.
 
Why would someone lie about whether or not they have reception issues..... we picked up 3 on launch day in Troy around 2pm, after reports of the "antenna issue" began to surface. I tested the 3 of them in the mall parking lot, on US23 northbound towards fenton, in fenton and tested my own in saginaw. No issues what-so-ever. I have polled my friends to see if they are experiencing these issues - they are not. Said friends are in Saginaw, Bay City, Flint, Ann Arbor, Clarkston, and Waterford.

so.. yeah.

So the network outage last Friday had no effect on you whatsoever on 3G? Amazing! BTW, I am not talking "antenna issue" I am talking 3G DATA. Don't tell me you are getting perfect 3G data all day without outage without testing it.

Turn off your wifi for a day, and report back after some speed testing.

Kthx
 
I love how the apple fanboys have gone from, "there isn't a problem", to "you're holding it wrong", to "buy a case" and now we're at "just return it for a refund". Never wrong are they?

indeed, the blind fanboys will follow and defend any move apple makes, and when left with no real argument they've nothing to say but "return it".
 
Wow....its like they have the Obama Press Corp working for Apple.

My phone dropped 27 calls, including THIRTEEN, when I was on the phone with Apple & AT&T.

Those 13 calls I wasn't even holding the phone.

Wife's phone exhibits the same problems, identical. No problems with our 3GS's at all.

As far as signal strength, right after a few of those dropped calls I did a 3G speed test, 3.5mbps down, 1.4mbps up, doesn't seem like a signal problem to me does it?

Apple is making a fool of themselves to anyone with half a brain, unfortunately that leaves legions to support them.

Were you doing all these tests in the same area? Sounds like an oversubscribed tower to me ( not that I defend apple in this.. I think they're one step shy of deceptive on this issue )

If your situation were an antenna problem you wouldn't have been able to run the speed test with any satisfactory results.

Retry your calls at around 9pm-10pm in the same spot. I bet you don't get any drops.
 
But an iPhone 3GS has 5 bars and doesn't drop calls at the exact same location.

Glad they finally said something even if its ludicrous - printing out the information, currently backing up the iP4 for boxing up and returning to AT&T this afternoon.

I'll use my phone upgrade credit when the 4.5 comes out in a couple months.
This.

I've gone back and forth but now I believe that I will have to return the iPhone 4 and go back to my 3G for a while. It will be interesting when the 4.5 comes out by Christmas and all the fanbois go rabid because they can't upgrade yet. :rolleyes:
 
It seems simple enough. If you don't believe it can be fixed by a software update, take it back. Otherwise bitchin won't do much for you other than getting it off your chest. Take it back or get a case and quit your bitchin.

huh? you're arguing against yourself..if the update will measure the bars as they should REALLY be..what good would a case do?..after the update you should be reading 3 bars lets say..a case will get you 5?..I think after the update you read 3 bars....use a case and you will get 3 bars......whats your reasoning?
 
its funny how everyone became engineers...
stop writing things that you have no idea about.
IP4 works just fine

For you and I it might, but it's obvious to me that a lot of people are actually experiencing a high rate of dropped calls.

Before the antenna issue was discovered, I recall one of the early iPhone 4 posts a guy complained that he had dropped a ton of calls right off the bat. It concerned me quite a bit.
 
No one is forcing you to deal with it. Return the phone if you're unsatisfied. If you no longer own an IP4, then there is nothing to deal with. End of story. Now, go hold mommy's hand and get a tissue.
Or you can stick to your Steve Jobs felching fantasy threads and stop complaining about people looking for a fix to a legitimate concern. Clearly, they love the phone. If they didn't, they wouldn't put up with this flaw.
 
Actual connection affected

Apple is not telling the whole story. I'm normally getting 600k down/800k up in speedtest.net. If I slightly touch the bottom left corner with the tip of my finger, there's no reception, the speed goes down to 0/0. As soon as I release my finger, it goes all the way back up. It has nothing to do with the display of the bars guys. And there ain't such thing as death grip, it's just the tip of a finger at the right place.
 
I hope you are lumping yourself in with the "stupid" as you pit it. Because you have clearly dismissed the reception problem as a non-problem because Apple says so.

Stop taking the crazy pills. Remove the blinders. People like you are the very reason companies like Apple get lawsuits. People search for answers and you insist there is a problem that they themselves have created. If Apple can swap out my current iPhone 4 for a phone that works (btw bumpers are showing no signs of help in many case - search around) and I'll gladly swap out. Don't tell me to stand with my arms spread out, curl my hands, and pray everytime I want to make a call because that's how the phone was designed.

Lastly don't call people stupid. It's not nice. My 4 year old niece understands that, why don't you? Be nice.

Don,

You are completely wrong. You need to go back and delete your post and then cancel your macrumors account and sell your computer. You don't deserve to be online. Try thinking for a change and re-read dz-015 post, maybe you will learn something.

dz-015 was completely spot on. :)
 
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