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Heh- Good luck with that.

If people listened, we won't have so many inane threads on this-

That's not holding the phone "correctly" - it's holding the phone in a manner other than intended by its form to get around a flaw in the design that Apple is usually so proud of. Can you imagine what Steve Jobs would say if a Microsoft product worked in such a way?
 
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That's not holding the phone "correctly" - it's holding the phone in a manner other than intended by its form to get around a flaw in the design that Apple is usually so proud of. Can you imagine what Steve Jobs would say if a Microsoft product worked in such a way?

People who got genuinely screwed by this problem should rant, return their phone, write a hate email/letter to Steve Jobs and AT&T, then rant some more.

Now that you can return the phone, you can go out of your way by buying another iPhone, if doesn't work, return it again. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Or simply write off Apple and never buy an iPhone ever again. Either way, it sends a message to the vendor that their product sucks and should be fixed.

But ranting alone and letting yourself be manipulated by the media isn't going to fix the problem any faster. I hear people complaining, but for some mysterious reason, they still have the phone.
 
That's not holding the phone "correctly" - it's holding the phone in a manner other than intended by its form to get around a flaw in the design that Apple is usually so proud of. Can you imagine what Steve Jobs would say if a Microsoft product worked in such a way?

Well, it won't matter, because soon as the Mayas said, in 2012 ... game over :p
 
But ranting alone and letting yourself be manipulated by the media isn't going to fix the problem any faster. I hear people complaining but for some mysterious reason, they still have the phone.

Look, we get it that you don't like the pressure all of this is putting on Apple. That's fine.

But ranting alone and letting yourself be manipulated by the ranters isn't going to fix the problem any faster. I hear people complaining but for some mysterious reason, they still read the posts.
 
It's not the phone, your holding it wrong...

You are any business wet dream of a costumer.

I sure am. I also fall with the type of consumers who can think for themselves.

The solution is simple.

Rant.
Return the phone.
Write a "this phone is broken and you suck so bad" letter to AT&T and Apple.
Rant.
Either wait for the new phone without the issues or,
write off Apple as the worst company in existence and never buy an Apple product again.
Life goes on.
 
Antenna

1. This is not a design issue as a big majority of the ip4s are working just fine. It may be a software or one supplier providing faulty parts.

2.this external antenna is only the begining where more functionalites will be added to it such as solar charge or charge by skin touch. This is along with new laws being passed about cell phone magnetic radiation levels are the reasons apple is looking for new antenna engineer. Apple is thinking ahead.

Don't forget who apple is.
 
3g wifi not together

I find out that in my home where I have wifi (good) 3G (good on the BB) (bad on all my iphones )
if I use the I phone together with the 3G I loose the 3G signal. but if I disable the wifi the 3G is getting much better.
 
Look, we get it that you don't like the pressure all of this is putting on Apple. That's fine.

But ranting alone and letting yourself be manipulated by the ranters isn't going to fix the problem any faster. I hear people complaining but for some mysterious reason, they still read the posts.

I'm just having fun at this point. Any Apple product has always suffered this kind of viral exchange.
 
Simply slide you finger a few millimeters either up or down when in a low reception area.

It is so easy even a caveman could do it.
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"There isn't a pointing device. There isn't even a single orientation. There's no up, there's no down... there's no right or wrong way of holding it. I don't have to change myself to fit the product, it fits me."

- Jony Ive on Apple's design philosophy, January 2010.

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"So don't hold it like that."

- Steve Jobs on Apple's revised design philosophy, 5 months later.


Now, I've never encountered a bona fide caveman, but I have a feeling he'd like the iPad a lot since he can't hold it wrong. The iPhone 4... mmmm, not so much.
 
1. This is not a design issue as a big majority of the ip4s are working just fine. It may be a software or one supplier providing faulty parts.

2.this external antenna is only the begining where more functionalites will be added to it such as solar charge or charge by skin touch. This is along with new laws being passed about cell phone magnetic radiation levels are the reasons apple is looking for new antenna engineer. Apple is thinking ahead.

Don't forget who apple is.

"charge by skin touch." Wow you really have a loose grasp on reality.
 
The iPhone 3G got updated in 2008 to fix a signal bug to show more bars. So idk what's going on anymore with this signal debacle.
 
People who got genuinely screwed by this problem should rant, return their phone, write a hate email/letter to Steve Jobs and AT&T, then rant some more.

Now that you can return the phone, you can go out of your way by buying another iPhone, if doesn't work, return it again. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Or simply write off Apple and never buy an iPhone ever again. Either way, it sends a message to the vendor that their product sucks and should be fixed.

But ranting alone and letting yourself be manipulated by the media isn't going to fix the problem any faster. I hear people complaining, but for some mysterious reason, they still have the phone.

I totally argee....
 
will any case work as well as Apple's bumper

I bought a iFrogz case for my iphone 4 and it still loses some bars and I can still get it to lose the data connection by holding it in my left hand. Is Apple's bumper case more effective at eliminating this problem?

Also, if you return the phone will the 2 year renewed contract with AT&T be nullified or will I have to pay the full unsubsidized price for a different phone if I wait a while to purchase another?
 
My iPhone 4 is here!

Just received the email. I will probably pickup this afternoon.

What I'm going to do-

If there is a problem, I will return the iPhone.

If not, then I consider myself one of the lucky ones and hope Apple can get around to delivering "the fix" or make amends to those who got screwed.
 
1. This is not a design issue as a big majority of the ip4s are working just fine. It may be a software or one supplier providing faulty parts.

Nope, this is a design issue and all iPhone 4s suffer from it. If you read the anandtech article, you'd know this is basically a 20 db drop when the iPhone 4 is held in a finger touching the proper spot. For comparison's sake, Anand tested the 3GS and it suffers 2 db, 10 times less, when touched in the area of the antenna.

All iPhone 4s suffer from this 20 db drop. What is a software issue is that iOS doesn't report less than 5 bars until very low in the signal spectrum. If your 20 db loss doesn't take you under the very low treshold of 5 bars, well you still get 5 bars and then come on Macrumors and say you don't have the issue.

Of course, you do, you just can't see it with the bar display. Now this is interesting because this proposed "fix" by Apple, which is upping the treshold at which 5 bars is displayed will now result in many of you who "don't have the issue" to suddenly have it. Of course, the drop off won't be as dramatic as Apple will stretch the bar drop off area, but now there's a good chance you'll be going from 5 to 3 bars in the new revised software.

Funny how that works out uh ?
 
1. This is not a design issue as a big majority of the ip4s are working just fine. It may be a software or one supplier providing faulty parts.

2.this external antenna is only the begining where more functionalites will be added to it such as solar charge or charge by skin touch. This is along with new laws being passed about cell phone magnetic radiation levels are the reasons apple is looking for new antenna engineer. Apple is thinking ahead.

Don't forget who apple is.

Trust me we know who apple is. The company that was doing great and ran their company in the ground and needed Bill Gates to rescue them....Looks like they are trying to do it again
 
Software Fix?

Software issue? So, when the people that are not having these issues(supposedly) download a software fix that they dont need then what....Hmmmm
 
Trust me we know who apple is. The company that was doing great and ran their company in the ground and needed Bill Gates to rescue them....Looks like they are trying to do it again

That's a bit drama queeny.

Apple have just shifted 2 million phones in an eye blink. Each sale netted them about $300 profit. People are still lining up to buy new phones Apple have just passed Microsoft in marketcap.

Hardly being run into the ground.

Yes, Solving this problem will be expensive. But this is not a disaster of Kin proportions.

C.
 
Design Flaw

So the iPhone is not sowing the correct bars, meaning the signal is lower than it actually appears.

How many other people have stated that there is no signal issues on earlier iPhones and and they hardly ever dropped calls? Now the iPhone 4 is loosing calls.

Meaning the design of the new iPhone is flawed. This design was supposed to keep dropped calls from happening.

AT&T slapped Apple in the face by telling everyone the iPhone is a data hog. Now Apple is slapping AT&T in the face by saying it is a low signal issue.

Sounds like the honeymoon is over.
 
Yesterday the image on the front page for this article showed 3G with no bars, one tiny little bar peaking up at the end.

Suddenly today its changed to full bars. Get a phone call from Apple, did you?
 
So the iPhone is not sowing the correct bars, meaning the signal is lower than it actually appears.

How many other people have stated that there is no signal issues on earlier iPhones and and they hardly ever dropped calls? Now the iPhone 4 is loosing calls.

Meaning the design of the new iPhone is flawed. This design was supposed to keep dropped calls from happening.

AT&T slapped Apple in the face by telling everyone the iPhone is a data hog. Now Apple is slapping AT&T in the face by saying it is a low signal issue.

Sounds like the honeymoon is over.

Nice English. Sounds like you really thought this through.
 
Given Apple admitted in their statement that the 2G iPhone has this same reporting issue and that they're not going to fix it on anything past the 3G, maybe everyone who owned that has grounds to start a class action too... :)

Phazer
 
Just received the email. I will probably pickup this afternoon.

What I'm going to do-

If there is a problem, I will return the iPhone.

If not, then I consider myself one of the lucky ones and hope Apple can get around to delivering "the fix" or make amends to those who got screwed.

What problem!!? There is no ******* problem! Just the use the thing and shut up about it! I can't believe you bloggers, you don't even have the phone yet and you think yours has a problem. Un*******believable.
 
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