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Apple On Track for NFC-Enabled iPhone in 2012?
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I'd say who cares about Ireland but...................both sides of my family are from there and I do care. Beautiful country and fantastic people. I look forward to my next visit
My hunch is more and more outlets will offer/ use NFC as they grow in popularity with smart phone adoption. I remember when the debit card was a less than 50% chance that it would be honored.
Another way to not have retail employees handling cash, less shrink, more definable record keeping for both consumer and retailers. Win-win for all.
The arm reader might be a little much.
That said, as noted before, I think the security offered by having a configurable chip is a big asset. The type built into a card or a sticker can't be turned off. That means someone walking by can potentially read it. The type in a chip could be turned off, powered down, when not in use by the phone. That means it's invisible to any thieves unless it's actively in use, reducing your risk.
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Why? You think Apple is going to call it the 'iPhone 6' when it comes out? They have already demonstrated that they have no intention to keep the 'phone name' number in sync with either the iOS version number or the 'phone generation' number.
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Why? You think Apple is going to call it the 'iPhone 6' when it comes out? They have already demonstrated that they have no intention to keep the 'phone name' number in sync with either the iOS version number or the 'phone generation' number.
Why is the rest of the world so far behind Japan with this type of stuff?
They've been able to pay with things from their phones for years and years. I recall hearing about it being up and running at least 5 years ago if not more than that on the Radio.
They've been able to pay with things from their phones for years and years. I recall hearing about it being up and running at least 5 years ago if not more than that on the Radio.
Those that want to use it can, those that think it is a security risk don't need too. Can't see what the argument is.
Good, this is an important move that Apple needs to make to stay competitive.
Of course, I will never use this technology. No way I'm sending out wireless data IN PUBLIC with all my financial/banking/credit information just out in the open for anyone to grab.
Sure, they'd have to be close (NF), and obviously the data would be (heavily I hope!?) encrypted... but any lock can be broken, and this is just like handing out locks for potential locksmiths to have at and crack. Unless they use some sort of 1024-bit encryption, this is soooo not appealing to me :/
Anyone else agree?
Of course, I will never use this technology. No way I'm sending out wireless data IN PUBLIC with all my financial/banking/credit information just out in the open for anyone to grab.
Sure, they'd have to be close (NF), and obviously the data would be (heavily I hope!?) encrypted... but any lock can be broken, and this is just like handing out locks for potential locksmiths to have at and crack. Unless they use some sort of 1024-bit encryption, this is soooo not appealing to me :/
Anyone else agree?
Why don't they use the system where it's like PayPal, so you separately and securely load money from your bank account onto the phone.
Then when you buy things using the phone, the money only comes from this floating wallet. So the most you can ever have stolen is the amount that you loaded into your phone's account/wallet.
Then when you buy things using the phone, the money only comes from this floating wallet. So the most you can ever have stolen is the amount that you loaded into your phone's account/wallet.
Unlock your door with iPhone5
Look at http://www.telcred.com/ to see how you unlock your door with an NFC-enabled smartphone.
Look at http://www.telcred.com/ to see how you unlock your door with an NFC-enabled smartphone.
NFC looks like it will catch on with or without Apple
In both developed (U.S.) and developing (China) economies Apple is not the leading ecosystem.
"Nokia Oyj lead the China smartphone market in the third quarter with 28 percent market share, while HTC Corp head the pack in the U.S. market with a 24 percent share ahead of Apple's 20.6 percent share, according to the [Strategy Analytics] research."
and from another report on the wire:
"While the decade-old technology, called near-field communications (NFC), is well-established in Japan and South Korea, its use has been stymied in Europe and North America by the competing interests of banks, merchants, device makers and wireless carriers.
This year, however, the logjam started to break after Google included NFC support in its Android operating system, the world's most popular smartphone software, and Nokia said all its phones will be NFC-enabled by the end of 2011.
RIM moved to stake its claim in September, saying NFC chips embedded in several of its newest phones would allow users to gain access to office buildings."
In both developed (U.S.) and developing (China) economies Apple is not the leading ecosystem.
"Nokia Oyj lead the China smartphone market in the third quarter with 28 percent market share, while HTC Corp head the pack in the U.S. market with a 24 percent share ahead of Apple's 20.6 percent share, according to the [Strategy Analytics] research."
and from another report on the wire:
"While the decade-old technology, called near-field communications (NFC), is well-established in Japan and South Korea, its use has been stymied in Europe and North America by the competing interests of banks, merchants, device makers and wireless carriers.
This year, however, the logjam started to break after Google included NFC support in its Android operating system, the world's most popular smartphone software, and Nokia said all its phones will be NFC-enabled by the end of 2011.
RIM moved to stake its claim in September, saying NFC chips embedded in several of its newest phones would allow users to gain access to office buildings."
NFC is still an emerging technology, even in Japan.
Credit card processing will still be through Visa or MC. They are not losing out, vendors simply need to install a new POS device.
The way to get this widely adopted is for Visa or MC to actually offer vendor discounts to those who use NFC systems...as well as get it installed in the next iPhone.
There are competing NFC standards however, including the distance you need to be from the scanner, and these need to be worked out before you will be able to walk up to your favorite fast food window and pay with your phone.
Credit card processing will still be through Visa or MC. They are not losing out, vendors simply need to install a new POS device.
The way to get this widely adopted is for Visa or MC to actually offer vendor discounts to those who use NFC systems...as well as get it installed in the next iPhone.
There are competing NFC standards however, including the distance you need to be from the scanner, and these need to be worked out before you will be able to walk up to your favorite fast food window and pay with your phone.