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Apple Once Again the Most Valuable Public Company in the World

obiwan said:
It must have been that 2018 Mac Mini I just purchased... The price Apple charge for those SSDs surely must have bumped up their share price!!
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Speaking of SSDs... I took delivery of a 2018 Mini with a 1 TB SSD last week. The write and read speeds are insanely fast!
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cableguy84 said:
Won’t last. Cook is squeezing every possible dollar out of a decade old product line (iphone). With no new product lines to generate new growth.
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What new product lines would you suggest?

Since you're using the iPhone as a reference, maybe you can suggest a few new product lines that will produce iPhone-like game-changing success. Thanx...
 
hello there mac rumor moderator, i will like to know why my post was deleted, i didn’t replied to the moderator post, so the reason that i recieved is a lie, i talk about the main topic and also about other users comments, it seems like you don’t like my opinion, but some others users gave me likes, if you don’t like my posts you can close my account, there is no point on sharing my opinion and wasting my time writing something to then being deleted for no reason other than you just don’t like it, sorry for exposing you, but i know how things work here,you just try very hard to create hype where there is no hype at all, do me a favor and close my account because is useless, i didn’t say nothing bad, i find it very disrespecful to delete someone post just because i told the truth and you don’t like it, i wrote this message here for others to see what’s going on, i don’t have nothing to discuss behind close doors, i don’t need this account anymore, thanks for nothing, i know you hate this but here it is, media hype
 
citysnaps said:
Speaking of SSDs... I took delivery of a 2018 Mini with a 1 TB SSD last week. The write and read speeds are insanely fast!
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What new product lines would you suggest?

Since you're using the iPhone as a reference, maybe you can suggest a few new product lines that will produce iPhone-like game-changing success. Thanx...
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I’m not the one running a 800 billion company i aint got the answers
 
aevan said:
MRF Comments over the years:

2000s Apple is doomed
2010s Apple is totally doomed, just you wait
2020s Apple is so doomed, I can see it - here are the reasons for it
2030s Apple is doomed, their current success won't last.
2040s Apple: totally doomed. Holodeck market is saturated.
2050s Apple's doom is inevitable
2060s Here's why Apple is doomed
2097. (Apple breaks into smaller companies due to the fact that BrainBlast(tm) took the world by storm with nano-computers in the bloodstream and Apple wasn't able to catch up) WE KNEW IT! TOLD YOU APPLE WAS DOOMED!
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I never said Apple is doomed. I said that Apple's growth will stagnate and slow down. The years of record profits posted every holiday quarter will cease to happen.
 
anshuvorty said:
This isn't going to last. I just don't see how Apple will keep growing in the future. All signs point to stagnating growth:
  • mature smartphone industry
  • no new innovative product in the pipeline: the self-driving car project was a bust, AR will rely on gimmicky controls on your iPhone/iPad preventing long use sessions because of how goofy you look when using it. Thus preventing mass adoption.
  • India being Apple's next market to corner is being hard to play with
So overall, I just don't see how Apple can keep posting record profits every 4th quarter as they have been for the last 10 years going forward. Consider me skeptical, but just being honest here from what I can see as an armchair enthusiast analyst.
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Agree. It's surprising to see how many articles think their new media streaming service is going to save the company. Apple seems to have given up in speakers and apple tv. Services such as Siri, Maps, etc are half baked and are the kind of things apple should be giving up on.

Apple needs to embrace Google. They already rely on Google paying them billions just to be default search.
 
anshuvorty said:
I never said Apple is doomed. I said that Apple's growth will stagnate and slow down. The years of record profits posted every holiday quarter will cease to happen.
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Well, sure, but people say that literally every year. I just added "doomed" to make it more dramatic. Each year we hear about the end of record profits and each year Apple has record profits. And sure, it may happen this year. It may happen the next one. Or in 5 years. But people have been saying this for years (always giving reasons) and it never happened. Hasn't stopped people from making these claims.

And again, sure, it may finally happen this year. After all, I don't think a streak of record profits can last forever. But if it doesn't, and Apple has a record quarter at the end of 2019 - are you going to say to yourself "hmm, I was wrong about that?" or are you going to say "next year - Apple's growth will stagnate!"?
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cardfan said:
Apple needs to embrace Google.
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God no.
 
anshuvorty said:
This isn't going to last. I just don't see how Apple will keep growing in the future. All signs point to stagnating growth:
  • mature smartphone industry
  • no new innovative product in the pipeline: the self-driving car project was a bust, AR will rely on gimmicky controls on your iPhone/iPad preventing long use sessions because of how goofy you look when using it. Thus preventing mass adoption.
  • India being Apple's next market to corner is being hard to play with
So overall, I just don't see how Apple can keep posting record profits every 4th quarter as they have been for the last 10 years going forward. Consider me skeptical, but just being honest here from what I can see as an armchair enthusiast analyst.
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Well come on then, don't keep us all in the dark. What exactly is in their pipeline?
 
Though I own AAPL, this is not good news. I was hoping that the stock market reaction would force AAPL into the right track of more innovative and engaging products, instead of marketing gimmicks and new emojis. AAPL will be back to their merry ways of price manipulation with less innovation.
 
These figures mean nothing to the average consumer, though I'm sure there are still several proud iPhone or MacBook owners out there. The good thing is they have capital to invest in industry-leading products; the question is will they create such products?
 
trillionaire said:
These figures mean nothing to the average consumer, though I'm sure there are still several proud iPhone or MacBook owners out there. The good thing is they have capital to invest in industry-leading products; the question is will they create such products?
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I’d say iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Airpods are quite the industry-leading products.
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the-seeker said:
Though I own AAPL, this is not good news. I was hoping that the stock market reaction would force AAPL into the right track of more innovative and engaging products, instead of marketing gimmicks and new emojis. AAPL will be back to their merry ways of price manipulation with less innovation.
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The “Innovation” you’re probably talking about is “new products”. And new products just for the sake of something new a wrong obsession to have. Apple needs to make current products better each year - that’s enough.

Also, there was a lot of innovation from Apple in the past few years. Ofc, not the kind clickbaity journalists want. You know: a crazy new gadget! It’s a phone, it’s a plane, it does laundry!
 
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the-seeker said:
Though I own AAPL, this is not good news. I was hoping that the stock market reaction would force AAPL into the right track of more innovative and engaging products, instead of marketing gimmicks and new emojis. AAPL will be back to their merry ways of price manipulation with less innovation.
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It depends on your cost basis. I’m out now but had stock from the 2000s. If you bought at the high a while back I don’t think you would want it to tank. Paper losses would be pitiful.
 
Remember, Wall Street usually has an attention span the length of a fiscal quarter.

This recent increase in paper value doesn't solve the multiple problems Apple has with market competition in China and India, global retail pricing, across the board quality control issues, goodwill/brand reputation, senior leadership, cultural degradation, etc.

Arhendt was simply a pound of flesh that was paid to win favor with Wall Street. I bet she's laughing all the way to the bank.
 
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aevan said:
MRF Comments over the years:

2000s Apple is doomed
2010s Apple is totally doomed, just you wait
2020s Apple is so doomed, I can see it - here are the reasons for it
2030s Apple is doomed, their current success won't last.
2040s Apple: totally doomed. Holodeck market is saturated.
2050s Apple's doom is inevitable
2060s Here's why Apple is doomed
2097. (Apple breaks into smaller companies due to the fact that BrainBlast(tm) took the world by storm with nano-computers in the bloodstream and Apple wasn't able to catch up) WE KNEW IT! TOLD YOU APPLE WAS DOOMED!
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I like how people use "Apple is doomed" hyperbole to deflect anything negative about Apple.
 
aevan said:
Please explain what’s negative about Apple in the news that it is the most valuable company in the world.
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Oh please .You were responding to a person that had less than positive things to say about Apple. I'm not an idiot, don't treat me like one.
 
Michael Goff said:
Oh please .You were responding to a person that had less than positive things to say about Apple. I'm not an idiot, don't treat me like one.
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No, I was responding to someone who tried to make some good news (for Apple) somehow seem bad just because it’s Apple and this is MRF. Don’t you treat me like an idiot. When Apple has a bad day - people here are like “not surprising, told you they suck”, but when they have a good one it’s “hm.... it won’t last. They have a problem, just you wait and see.” Some people really have a problem with the fact tha Apple is, apparently, doing well. And I find that funny and a bit sad - ergo, my joke.
 
anshuvorty said:
I never said Apple is doomed. I said that Apple's growth will stagnate and slow down. The years of record profits posted every holiday quarter will cease to happen.
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The market agrees with you-- they've still got a lower P/E than Procter & Gamble, the soap people. They aren't this valuable because of hype, they're this valuable because of their actual earnings.

Of course it looks like MS overtook them again by the time the market closed, so now they're only the second most valuable public company in the world-- ie. doomed.
 
aevan said:
No, I was responding to someone who tried to make some good news (for Apple) somehow seem bad just because it’s Apple and this is MRF. Don’t you treat me like an idiot. When Apple has a bad day - people here are like “not surprising, told you they suck”, but when they have a good one it’s “hm.... it won’t last. They have a problem, just you wait and see.” Some people really have a problem with the fact tha Apple is, apparently, doing well. And I find that funny and a bit sad - ergo, my joke.
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Or they were bringing up the idea that the stock market (and capitalism in general) demands continued growth beyond what's even possible.
 
Michael Goff said:
Or they were bringing up the idea that the stock market (and capitalism in general) demands continued growth beyond what's even possible.
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Sure. But given the context, this wasn’t an impartial analysis of capitalism and you know it. Some people here just have a problem with Apple and seeing them do well makes them angry and then they either try to dispute the validity of such news, or make a point that it won’t last.

I’ve been on this forum for a long time. Nothing new.
 
aevan said:
Sure. But given the context, this wasn’t an impartial analysis of capitalism and you know it. Some people here just have a problem with Apple and seeing them do well makes them angry and then they either try to dispute the validity of such news, or make a point that it won’t last.

I’ve been on this forum for a long time. Nothing new.
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You can read whatever you want into any post. I just happen to not read Apple hating comments everywhere. Funny how that works.
 
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