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Apple Open to Expanding New Child Safety Features to Third-Party Apps
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MR must be loving all of the traffic from these stories! (and yes I'm lumping myself in there...)
First phase of the democratization of state surveillance.
But should everyone else’s privacy be compromised as an expense? I don’t want anything on my phone being scanned.
🤣 This is all starting to be hilarious! You have a company that taught privacy and even put up a public show that they will not even help their own government (FBI). Only to find out this was all a glorious smoke and mirrors show put on by the very company everyone had some type of hope in.
At least China told everyone up front we monitor EVERYTHING. no BS. Just said it like it is. Google, the same. Right out of the gate everyone knows Google knows everything.
But Apple... na guys.. na.. na.. we don't do that. Only to find that later yes.. yes we did and do.
The only difference between Apple and Android right now is simply the language the APPS are written in.
At least China told everyone up front we monitor EVERYTHING. no BS. Just said it like it is. Google, the same. Right out of the gate everyone knows Google knows everything.
But Apple... na guys.. na.. na.. we don't do that. Only to find that later yes.. yes we did and do.
The only difference between Apple and Android right now is simply the language the APPS are written in.
It’ll be really quiet around here when all the people who don’t read articles properly have gone away.
Anyone else thinking they'll probably hold off on upgrading to the spyPhone 13 this fall?
Never has been. You're now just seeing the truth behind the curtains.
actually the 1 trillion number seems to be a blatant lie from Apple. See Neal Kravetz:
Here are some more Orwellian features they can add to their tech.
Always scan your face while driving to make sure you don't fall asleep.
Kidnapp awareness to know if you are behaving in a way not consistent with your routine.
Loss prevention, keeps an eye on your bank accounts for suspicious activity.
Anti cheat function that detects adult groans if you and your partners phones are not in the same house.
Also a part of anti cheat is to scan all your messages and save the ones you sent to your lover so they can later be retrieved by the spouse your cheating on.
Oh I bet with those last two everyone will say apple has gone too far! They went too far long before that it just didn't hurt you personally.
This will not end well because as it gets bigger and incorporated into the state level, it will be selectively enforced because its main function is control, not safety.
Always scan your face while driving to make sure you don't fall asleep.
Kidnapp awareness to know if you are behaving in a way not consistent with your routine.
Loss prevention, keeps an eye on your bank accounts for suspicious activity.
Anti cheat function that detects adult groans if you and your partners phones are not in the same house.
Also a part of anti cheat is to scan all your messages and save the ones you sent to your lover so they can later be retrieved by the spouse your cheating on.
Oh I bet with those last two everyone will say apple has gone too far! They went too far long before that it just didn't hurt you personally.
This will not end well because as it gets bigger and incorporated into the state level, it will be selectively enforced because its main function is control, not safety.
The “if you don’t X you don’t worry about Y” justification shouldn’t fly in a Philosophy 101 class, let alone in the real world.
Glad no one fell for that BS when they were debating the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments.
“Hey, if you‘re not doing anything wrong, why do you care if they search you?”
”Hey, if you didn’t do anything wrong, you can’t incriminate yourself.”
”Hey, if you didn’t do anything wrong, you don’t need a lawyer.”
You mean the image of Pooh Bear will be banned and those with Pooh Bear wallpapers will be sent to prison or worse?
‘Steve’s vision’ contributed to many clangers during his tenure at Apple.
Macintosh 128k? In making it an appliance, it lacked many features that would have otherwise helped make it attractive to large industries. It wasn’t until he left Apple that they changed it from an underpowered toy to a creative asset.
G4 Cube? An overpriced, flawed mid-range Power Mac.
OS X Lion and the reduction of the file system? Let’s not go there.
Bing? Haha.
Who is going to stop Apple now that they own Congress and the White House? The courts? Good luck. It’s time we the people take a stand. Down with big tech. To everyone who wants their privacy back, let’s let Apple know how we really feel. Let’s litter the front of their stores with our old devices. They can have their trash back.
I'm soooo looking forward to the inevitable 2AM No-knock Raid after sending a diaper rash photo to our kids' pediatrician to triage.
depends on your semantics of "scanning".
A hash-function is applied to the picture on-device (that is an information destroying function, so I wouldn't call that a scan). In case of a match, the picture is flagged with this "safety voucher" - which probably has the necessary encryption keys, that an Apple dedicated team might inspect those photos, once the threshold has been exceeded.
So privacy is reduced only in those cases and for those pictures, where a match was found.
The probability that that happens in case of a non-CSAM picture is related to the "coarseness" of the hash-algorithm,
by using a finer hash function Apple could further reduce this risk.
If the mechanism works as designed in my view the benefits outweigh the risk of the privacy intrusion.
However Apple should first prove it can make the mechanism tamper-proof before even thinking of opening it up to third parties.
Don't use something I paid for? That's not a solution.
It already applies to me because I no longer trust hardware I have already paid for.
That's a big part of what this comes down to. They sold an idea of privacy and now they want to sell our privacy to governments and other businesses. If Apple wants to reimburse me for the cost of hardware and the expense of changing my workflow then sure - violate the very core of last year's advertising. Otherwise, they broke the ecosystem and the need to start fixing it. Now.
So... by third party, you mean the government? Right Apple?
Ugh... the worst part of this is you know the other big tech companies aren't far behind in doing the same stuff Apple is doing... How could they not? "Unlike Apple we don't scan your photos." "You mean, you don't scan for child abuse?" "Oh... uh.... *jumps on the Apple bandwagon*" Makes me wonder now how doxing will evolve. If you just hate that person get a burner phone and just spam the heck out of them with that stuff? It would trigger it on their device? I hope Apple thought of that.
Ugh... the worst part of this is you know the other big tech companies aren't far behind in doing the same stuff Apple is doing... How could they not? "Unlike Apple we don't scan your photos." "You mean, you don't scan for child abuse?" "Oh... uh.... *jumps on the Apple bandwagon*" Makes me wonder now how doxing will evolve. If you just hate that person get a burner phone and just spam the heck out of them with that stuff? It would trigger it on their device? I hope Apple thought of that.
Rather than reconsidering this, Apple seems to be doubling down. This is not a good sign.