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I'd venture to guess that 99% of home break ins are from drug seekers and common petty thugs, neither of which are hacking your ring cameras. The security paranoia on this site is comical.

More like monitoring my porch and driveway with my Ring camera's. The latter would tell them when I am not at home. Not that we don't have and use an alarm system, but still.
 
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Sounds like good news as long as the security is maintained.
It won't be as secure that is for sure. Their whole shtick was the hardware security chip that makes it really secure and now it seems they are throwing that out the window to play catch up. I'm excited because that might mean my wemo switches/plugs could work w Siri.
 
I'd venture to guess that 99% of home break ins are from drug seekers and common petty thugs, neither of which are hacking your ring cameras. The security paranoia on this site is comical.

lol so true!!!

I think a lot of the paranoid people here have little to no experience with real crime and real criminals.
 
So if security is only through software does this undermine all those that say this is the biggest differentiator compared to other 'smart' products? I'm hoping Home Kit becomes more widely available going forward.
 
Go ahead and list the reasons why SmartThings is vulnerable. Before you start, "Because I can't figure out how to use it properly" isn't a reason.

If you use regular z-wave it's pretty vulnerable... http://www.networkworld.com/article...reaking-bulbs-and-abusing-z-wave-devices.html

You can basically trick the system into thinking door and window sensors haven't been opened, not to mention the horrors of some of the z-wave locks that were sold for a while. https://sensepost.com/cms/resources/conferences/2013/bh_zwave/Security Evaluation of Z-Wave_WP.pdf
 
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If you use regular z-wave it's pretty vulnerable... http://www.networkworld.com/article...reaking-bulbs-and-abusing-z-wave-devices.html

You can basically trick the system into thinking door and window sensors haven't been opened, not to mention the horrors of some of the z-wave locks that were sold for a while. https://sensepost.com/cms/resources/conferences/2013/bh_zwave/Security Evaluation of Z-Wave_WP.pdf

Key phrases: "regular" and "for a while."

The first article, which was mostly about flipping on/off older unencrypted lamp modules, was later updated to note that encryption was no longer optional. (A concerned user would have always used it anyway.)

The second article boiled down to finding a state bug in one specific door lock model... four years ago.
 
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Over the last couple of years buying into the IOT Smart devices I've been mindful that this is a very young segment and things can change.

Where possible I've tried to buy products that have a wide range of platform compatibility. Apart from my Nest products, everything I have is Home Kit compatible.

On the long run, Apple could well
Be the more secure platform and I think it's wise not to try and corner yourself in one eco
System.

Exciting times ahead.
 
I'm here to gloat. Apple's greed finally backfired when Amazon Echo destroyed homekit by opening its doors. Homekit is something you might know about if you already own an apple watch (which by the way so ugly that it stands against everything Apple's design used to be about). Amazon echo, on the other hand, is something you buy to be cool. What Apple is doing now about Homekit is called damage control. They know they screwed up big time.

The ship has sailed and Apple's homekit was left behind. There may be no "next ship" for homekit. It's one massively wasted opportunity. If they still have smart people left in the company, they'll take the retards who suggested to make homekit closed, and show them the door so they can't do any more damage.
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How were these projects illegal? What laws were being broken?
API license terms. Apple has the right to control how you use their technology. Fortunately, it's impossible to enforce against hobbyists, otherwise Apple surely would have gone to court to protect their IP.
 
I'm here to gloat. Apple's greed finally backfired when Amazon Echo destroyed homekit by opening its doors. Homekit is something you might know about if you already own an apple watch (which by the way so ugly that it stands against everything Apple's design used to be about). Amazon echo, on the other hand, is something you buy to be cool. What Apple is doing now about Homekit is called damage control. They know they screwed up big time.

The ship has sailed and Apple's homekit was left behind. There may be no "next ship" for homekit. It's one massively wasted opportunity. If they still have smart people left in the company, they'll take the retards who suggested to make homekit closed, and show them the door so they can't do any more damage.
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API license terms. Apple has the right to control how you use their technology. Fortunately, it's impossible to enforce against hobbyists, otherwise Apple surely would have gone to court to protect their IP.
I think you need to read the article again...
 
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I think you need to read the article again...
I'm not sure why you said that. My reading and analytical skills are sharp, and the material is fairly easy for one-pass reading to suffice. Let me summarize my analysis for you in a few sentences:

- Apple made the mistake of making Homekit too "tight".
- Hobbyists started breaking the terms of the license agreement
- Devs/manufacturers were not impressed
- As a result Homekit lost to Amazon echo
- Apple went in denial
- Two years later Apple finally reaches the acceptance stage, and opens up the platform.

The only thing that's not clear is whether the people who made all the bad decisions are able to continue their work of destroying the company from the inside.
 
Has anyone heard if Nest will now be apple homekit approved? My house came with the thermostat and i've been holding off on buying the smoke detectors
 
What exactly are you worried about? Someone turning off the lights on you or blasting your AC?

I would be more worried about someone being able to gain access to my home network since most of the items like IP cameras or washing machines that are connected to your home network are not secure. Or worse they are using my items as a launching point and sucking up my bandwidth in the process.

Was at a security conference for bio-metrics and the east coast hack that took over the above items was enlightening and scary at the same time. The intelligence that was built in to the hack was incredible and what it was capable of doing along with the information it would capture and send out.

https://www.checkvideo.com/security-cameras-attack/

Why should you be concerned?

In a network security environment, each device is a computer complete with IP address, passwords, security configuration settings and often times weaknesses. Poorly configured devices can provide a hacker with the opportunity to gain entry into the network where they can alter or collect data, change settings, take control of the system or completely takeover a physical security system leaving the business unprotected.
 
So does this mean that the Philips Hue version 1 hub could be compatible with homekit with a simple firmware update? (Not that I expect Philips to actually do this)
 
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