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Like those of us that realize that a 365 day rental policy on a mission critical application is what precisely NOBODY is interested in... & that they are only acquiescing due to lack of full fledged alternative yet?
Or those of us that have been watching the Google/Apple/OpenOffice free products narrow that gap more and more by the year?

Or was it just a smug sarcastic comment to others sharing the narrow minded view that MS Office & 365 rental software has a stronghold that will NEVER waiver or lose market share no matter what Apple & Google ever come up with??

Wow. Please tell me you're joking.
 
All I can say in regards to your post of ignorance is Speak For Yourself. Don't say Everybody uses this and Nobody uses that because you couldn't be more wrong.

Well...

There are people out there that still watch VHS, so I will speak for myself when I say nobody watches movies on VHS anymore
 
I dropped any faith with Apple and their Software. After dropping Aperture, and the Pages debacle - I cannot in good conscience recommend anyone to use their software. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Why not just use Google Docs, or Office Online which are standards that people will know will probably be here next year, instead of fickle Apple software.

Apple software just seems to wither and decay over time.
 
This is pretty awesome, but it's going to be hard to get me to switch from Google Apps.
 
This move is a mixed bag. On one hand it proves Apple is feeling the downside of making everything proprietary. The risk is they are very weak with cloud services, suffering buggy performance from time to time, a scenario that proves they don't always live up to their own hype. Others clouds are far more reliable with proven track records.

One things for sure, with Apple branching out into more and more product categories they're a fun company to watch. Between the watch project, Apple Car and everything else they're certainly taxing their capabilities. There's no better example of the strain they're under than the fact that iOS 8 is roughest version they've ever put out.

I'd like nothing better than for Apple to return their focus to the level of quality and performance they once routinely delivered.

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This is pretty awesome, but it's going to be hard to get me to switch from Google Apps.

I concur, Google has been solid and ultra reliable, company wide with over 12,000 employees, it's serving us very well.
 
It's interesting apple decides to open their least 'it just works' software products. Many android users know all too well how unfortunate icloud is.

apple will never open messaging or facetime. They work properly and need it to hook the android user to switch over.
 
Wow. Please tell me you're joking.

Yeah! =)
Lol, I am!!!
I actually LOVE rental software..!!
I think all of your apps & OS should quit working at random staggered times throughout the year and you can get those truly AMAZING ransom notices, letting you know that your office software or antiviral software or whatever is expiring. This is clearly MUCH better than actually owning software...! Duh.
That's why it was SO obvious I was joking!!!
Seriously... who could possibly NOT enjoy never owning their software & having zero control over what the new "lease" prices are going to be, the next cycle?? It kind of makes it exciting, right?? The anticipation of finding out how much the software that still works for you in the same way their offerings did in 2003, is going to cost you in new fees next year.
I'm with you in being SO annoyed with Apple over making their OS free & all their office suite free & cross-platform!!! What lames!!!
Don't worry.... you nailed it! I was joking and am steadfast with you in team "rental software for life!" :0)
 
Maybe I can finally do presentations from a web app

Google Docs kinda suck. Their presentations app is expecially bad. If web Keynote has 10% of what the desktop version can do, it'll totally kick the crap out of Google Docs. Even better, while I'm sure PowerPoint 365 is probably about as good as the desktop app (not awesome but acceptable and certainly better than Google Docs), with iWork online, I don't have to pay a subscription fee.
 
Fantastic news, great to see Apple going in this direction.

Now, just iCloud Keychain for non Apple devices (Windows in particular) and I'm happy. It's so great having all my passwords from all sites, but then when I use Windows - and I HAVE to work in Windows at times - it's a pain.
 
Like those of us that realize that a 365 day rental policy on a mission critical application is what precisely NOBODY is interested in...

Yap, nobody is interested for paying $99.99/year for 5 10TB accounts.

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Yeah! =)
Lol, I am!!!
I actually LOVE rental software..!!
I think all of your apps & OS should quit working at random staggered times throughout the year and you can get those truly AMAZING ransom notices, letting you know that your office software or antiviral software or whatever is expiring. This is clearly MUCH better than actually owning software...! Duh.
That's why it was SO obvious I was joking!!!
Seriously... who could possibly NOT enjoy never owning their software & having zero control over what the new "lease" prices are going to be, the next cycle?? It kind of makes it exciting, right?? The anticipation of finding out how much the software that still works for you in the same way their offerings did in 2003, is going to cost you in new fees next year.
I'm with you in being SO annoyed with Apple over making their OS free & all their office suite free & cross-platform!!! What lames!!!
Don't worry.... you nailed it! I was joking and am steadfast with you in team "rental software for life!" :0)

Yes, you're joking
 
I dropped any faith with Apple and their Software. After dropping Aperture, and the Pages debacle - I cannot in good conscience recommend anyone to use their software. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Why not just use Google Docs, or Office Online which are standards that people will know will probably be here next year, instead of fickle Apple software.

Apple software just seems to wither and decay over time.
For those that find basic functionality of Google Docs and Office Online, this is good news. For basic throwaway needs, I like the flexibility of using all 3 suites on a Chromebook.

I'm still heavily invested in iWork '09 for Pages and Keynote, Excel for spreadsheet, but knowing that I'm living on borrowed time re:pages 4.x on OSX, I'm evaluating alternatives.
 
I don't understand why Apple keeps pushing in areas no one cares about. Seriously how many people use Pages or Numbers? Everybody uses Office, Google Docs, and OpenOffice/LibreOffice .

They are better off using their resources in improving iOS by adding capabilities and squishing bugs.

Keynote is the only app which is probably easier and superior to its counterparts and people choose to use it.

I appreciate the simplicity of their office software, but it really feels like they are just saying "us too" . It doesn't help you can get Office for free on OneDrive,

I suspect Apple keeps this up so that Microsoft can't hold Apple hostage for money by threatening to stop supporting MS Office for Mac. Apple puts in just enough effort to keep iWork useable for the average consumer. Personally, I really wish Apple would start adding features back in.
 
This is pretty awesome, but it's going to be hard to get me to switch from Google Apps.

Google Apps is pretty lackluster compared to iWork. Especially Keynote and Pages. They don't even have native apps. It's just web browser only.
 
I suspect Apple keeps this up so that Microsoft can't hold Apple hostage for money by threatening to stop supporting MS Office for Mac. Apple puts in just enough effort to keep iWork useable for the average consumer. Personally, I really wish Apple would start adding features back in.

LMAO you've got to kidding. Microsoft does not create Office for Mac as a favor for Apple. It's a business and Microsoft is a software company and they would greatly lose money if they stopped support. It's in Microsoft's best interest to create Office for Mac. You do know that Office was on Mac first right?

Lol "threaten to stop supporting Office for Mac". Funniest and most ridiculous line I've read on MR in years. :p

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Google Apps is pretty lackluster compared to iWork. Especially Keynote and Pages. They don't even have native apps. It's just web browser only.

Agreed! Keynote is unmatched and I use Pages to create professional banners and, brochures and professional letters for my business office. The graphics are top notch. People trashing Pages dont use it and never really have.
 
LMAO you've got to kidding. Microsoft does not create Office for Mac as a favor for Apple. It's a business and Microsoft is a software company and they would greatly lose money if they stopped support. It's in Microsoft's best interest to create Office for Mac. You do know that Office was on Mac first right?

Lol "threaten to stop supporting Office for Mac". Funniest and most ridiculous line I've read on MR in years. :p

I see how it makes sense to say that Microsoft wouldn't be spending money on Office for Mac unless it made them money. That is probably the case, but for all we know Microsoft may someday decide it doesn't make business sense to them. So long as Apple runs its own productivity suite, most Mac users won't be caught out if Microsoft suddenly drops Office support. I suspect this strategetic weakness is why Apple has iWork; Apple doesn't want to be dependant on one of its chief competitors for its office productivity software.

I didn't know MS Office was on the Mac first. Interesting.
 
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I see how it makes sense to say that Microsoft wouldn't be spending money on Office for Mac unless it made them money. That is probably the case, but for all we know Microsoft may someday decide it doesn't make business sense to them. So long as Apple runs its own productivity suite, most Mac users won't be caught out if Microsoft suddenly drops Office support. I suspect this strategetic weakness is why Apple has iWork; Apple doesn't want to be dependant on one of its chief competitors for its office productivity software.

I didn't know MS Office was on the Mac first. Interesting.

That part you're absolutely correct about. It's been that way for years and I truly thank Apple for it. Some people have felt that Apple was alienating the 3rd party developers making Apple software that competes with the 3rd parties but Apple never wanted their customers to be dependent upon 3rd party companies creating quality software. But I don't think Apple ever intended to compete with Microsoft. Also iWork wasn't the first Apple office suite. It was originally called AppleWorks.

Yes, Office started on the Mac years before Microsoft decided to make it for Windows. First piece of Office put out was Word and it was Mac exclusive.
 
Yeah! =)
Lol, I am!!!
I actually LOVE rental software..!!
I think all of your apps & OS should quit working at random staggered times throughout the year and you can get those truly AMAZING ransom notices, letting you know that your office software or antiviral software or whatever is expiring. This is clearly MUCH better than actually owning software...! Duh.
That's why it was SO obvious I was joking!!!
Seriously... who could possibly NOT enjoy never owning their software & having zero control over what the new "lease" prices are going to be, the next cycle?? It kind of makes it exciting, right?? The anticipation of finding out how much the software that still works for you in the same way their offerings did in 2003, is going to cost you in new fees next year.
I'm with you in being SO annoyed with Apple over making their OS free & all their office suite free & cross-platform!!! What lames!!!
Don't worry.... you nailed it! I was joking and am steadfast with you in team "rental software for life!" :0)

I meant about the "closing the gap" line. Apple recently removed large amounts of things from their offline suite and their online suite doesn't work in a large amount of browsers. They're hardly anywhere near Office.

As for your rant about how you'd rather own than rent... you do know you can buy Office, right?

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Yap, nobody is interested for paying $99.99/year for 5 10TB accounts.

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Yes, you're joking

*cough* Unlimited *cough*
 
I meant about the "closing the gap" line. Apple recently removed large amounts of things from their offline suite and their online suite doesn't work in a large amount of browsers. They're hardly anywhere near Office.

As for your rant about how you'd rather own than rent... you do know you can buy Office, right?

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*cough* Unlimited *cough*

I still don't see the unlimited, only 10TB :p
 
I still don't see the unlimited, only 10TB :p

Well, yes, you'll see 10 TB until you fill 10TB, then it goes up from there. That's how I'm told they're doing it. I haven't filled it up, though, so I can only tell you what I was told.
 
Amazing news, this might make big impact in schools, finally something to compare against Google Apps for education..about time!!
 
And have they actually improved on ClarisWorks? It was a great program. The Draw component was awesome.

http://www.macworld.com/article/284...-documents-for-a-stroll-down-memory-lane.html

The Draw program as well as the database, didn't survive the transition to Intel. Claris Works, later Apple Works, was a very good suite in days of OS9; I think I used it in Classic mode even after transition to OS X. However, drawing elements in Keynote and Pages, as well as charts in Numbers, is far beyond whatever MS Office can manage in Windows or Mac versions. The database part later became an independent software, called Filemaker and later Bento in OS X, I think, but I am not sure because I don't use databases.
 
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