And you're worried about China?
Bloody hell UK - this Brexit nonsense has gone too far.
Bloody hell UK - this Brexit nonsense has gone too far.
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Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Backdoor
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Surprised the British government hasn’t used it is to protect the children excuse.
Not quite.
This was started by Theresa May way back in 2016.
The fact that Labour is continuing it is appalling.
But to compare the current UK government — and do remember it is a government, with a parliament and not a one man s**t show run by Lunatic Presidential edict as in the USA — is beyond ridiculous.
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Britain and US are part of the Five eyes so they share all intelligence info.
This is 100% Apple’s fault. I expect governments to overreach, it’s what they invariably do, “with great power…” yada yada yada. But Apple was no naive child on this… they should have engineered their backend systems FROM DAY ONE to be based on encryption keys that resided client-side. The USER should be the encryption provider; Apple should just be a platform. But no, Apple took the lazy way out and now they’ll pay the price, reputationally, as they are forced to kowtow to authoritarian governments. Meanwhile, there ARE other better-encrypted platforms, luckily… only, due to Apple’s a-holish greed-driven policies, users can’t replace Apple’s half-assed services with those platforms. Thanks, Apple, turns out you were too smart by half.
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How many times on MR have I asked for iOS TimeCapsule ?
This is an outrage and I hope the people in the UK make it clear to their government it’s not acceptable.
If Apple does not drop iCloud from UK (at a minimum), they’ll lose any remaining credibility they may have had as the “safe and secure” alternative for consumers.
I always thought 1984 and other works of fiction from the UK were supposed to be cautionary tales, not freaking blueprints.
I always thought 1984 and other works of fiction from the UK were supposed to be cautionary tales, not freaking blueprints.
@surferfb care to share why you disagree with waiting for some reputable sources to report on this?
like most democracies we have the ability to vote in or out every 5 years via a "first past the post" system.
what we don't have is a system where a megalomaniac can sign whatever "executive order" they choose on a whim based on what they though of whilst sitting on the toilet.
we have a system where bills are proposed, debated, voted on, and then passed outwith the sitting government to be be vetted before either being approved or rejected back to the sitting government to think again.
what the WP is reporting on (and nobody else is at the moment) is unlikely to ever get to the stage where it would be approved, and even if it did get approved, unlikely to get to stage where it would be enforced.
As a UK citizen, Apple should tell the UK to go to hell. I don't want any backdoors, if there is one then that will allow anyone to potentially get in. Plus the UK has a terrible track record of poor security issues.
apple don't need to say anything, there is nothing to comment on.
a "secret" proposal reported by a US news agency, nothing in law, nothing going thru parliament for debate/vote.
I live in DC and the Washington Post is my local paper. Despite the recent issues on the editorial side, from a news perspective it’s one of the most reputable papers in the US. They also have good sources inside the US National Security apparatus, who would be in good position to confirm this.
If the Post is reporting this, it’s either true or multiple independent sources are lying to them.
pretty low bar though for US news sources.
let's wait for more reputable sources not owned by Jeff Bezos.
You hope. The snooper's charter has been persistently pushed by various governments. At one point it was proposed that not only the UK national government intelligence agencies would have access, but local councils as well.
This is lunacy and the fact that it is even being considered is appalling. We can stop all terrorism and crime but locking everybody up in solitary confinement. That doesn't make it a good idea.
It seems to be a global phenomenon that those in power seek to add to that power illegally (and extremely short-sightedly) while having zero shame or regret about anything they do.
How bad is this exactly for a dude that lives outside of UK?
Genuine question idk
Genuine question idk
Royal prerogatives are a throwback that is dying out. Statutory Instruments are delegated legislation - the power to issue one stems directly from an Act of Parliament, and it's scope has to be limited to the powers granted in the primary Act. For example Health and Safety legislation gives the Minister responsible the power to make specific rules about workplace Health and Safety and nothing else. Statutory Instruments just fill in the nuts and bolts of implementing the Act.
rarely used, last time was 2019, and unlikely to be used in a case like this
pretty much same as above