LOL!Trump will force the UK to walk this back
… with the huge caveat that a fire, tornado or flood could wipe out your iCloud account.Apple could figure out a way to bypass thes and new move to a new paradigm where you can purchase an iCloud storage device and put it in your home and all your data is stored locally with and end to end encryption instead of being stored on servers out on the internet.
1984 was written in the UK after all.This is insane. Absolutely not acceptable. What is this ? The old USSR or the United Kingdom ?
Good question!How can the UK think that they can have the encryption keys to MY iCloud data? I'm a citizen of the USA and do not have any ties to the UK or EU for the matter.
Um, it has happened under the previous administration. Your news sources didn’t tell you about it, because many of them were themselves beneficiaries of USAID largess.I think it happening in the US, under the current administration, is much more likely, and very soon.
Regardless, it's time to start using the cloud less, and to start taking sensitive information offline, completely. Move it to air-gapped machines with zero connection to the LAN or internet.
… with the huge caveat that a fire, tornado or flood could wipe out your iCloud account.
I still like that kind of brainstorming! We definitely have two competing powerful movements struggling for dominance. On the one hand we have those seeking more control, really an oligarchy, and on the other we have a resurgence of populaces to reassert their natural right to self-determination. In most of the countries involved, the latter is guaranteed by their respective constitutions, if not readily honored by their governments.
i'm sure us in the UK will be better versed about what happens in the UK than a US newspaper or yourself.
The news was first reported by the Washington Post, externalquoting sources familiar with the matter, and the BBC has spoken to similar contacts.
You are being facetious, right? Yes, you can do that, but obviously it would not be that useful anymore, because having to overcome that air gap every time you need access to that data would be much too cumbersome.Regardless, it's time to start using the cloud less, and to start taking sensitive information offline, completely. Move it to air-gapped machines with zero connection to the LAN or internet.
I agree with you on hoping Trump pushes back on this, but you’ve fallen hook line and sinker for USAID conspiracy theories.Um, it has happened under the previous administration. Your news sources didn’t tell you about it, because many of them were themselves beneficiaries of USAID largess.
The new administration has a huge mandate to return the power to the people. You are probably thinking of Trump and specifically DOGE as wrecking balls. However, whatever gets wrecked liberates money you will no longer have to send to D.C. That’s more power to you. Spend it on a bass boat or donate it to Planned Parenthood* for all I care. Your having that liberty is the true democratization of the use of citizens’ hard-earned money.
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* I wouldn’t stop you, but if I had some personal relationship with you, I’d want to persuade and convince you that you shouldn’t.
To be fair, this specific point isn't exactly new, see "commercial partners* under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures#Global_surveillance. Traditionally the NSA hasn't had much qualms about spying on non-US citizens either, without necessarily telling their governments.The person deemed it shocking that the UK government was demanding Apple's help to spy on non-British users without their governments' knowledge.
You are being facetious, right? Yes, you can do that, but obviously it would not be that useful anymore, because having to overcome that air gap every time you need access to that data would be much too cumbersome.
Unfortunately, most people need to have setups they won’t have to think about most of the time. Otherwise, necessary backups won’t happen.I keep two physical backups of all our data at all times, one at home and one in my desk at work. I swap them monthly.
LOL! Yeah, I read Ars articles and I find many of those to be pretty solid, but I stay out of the peanut gallery. I only ever dive in there for entertainment value 😁Head over to Ars Technica, and you’ll find a readership much more salutary of such efforts, because, don’t you know, “We need to do something about misinformation!” People with opinions like mine are heavily downvoted and then hidden from the general discourse, and what remains is an MSNBC-like echo chamber.
It is refreshing to see this to be different here. I don’t mind differing opinions. We need to hear from one another more, not less. That’s how we ground ourselves in reality and dismiss the propaganda.
like most democracies we have the ability to vote in or out every 5 years via a "first past the post" system.
what we don't have is a system where a megalomaniac can sign whatever "executive order" they choose on a whim based on what they though of whilst sitting on the toilet.
we have a system where bills are proposed, debated, voted on, and then passed outwith the sitting government to be be vetted before either being approved or rejected back to the sitting government to think again.
what the WP is reporting on (and nobody else is at the moment) is unlikely to ever get to the stage where it would be approved, and even if it did get approved, unlikely to get to stage where it would be enforced.
You're a little late on this. The bill went through Parliament, was scrutinized, passed through the 2nd chamber etc back in 2016. 8 years ago. Lots of us warned people about it enabling such Govt overreach at the time, but it seems fthey weren't paying sufficient attention.i'm not denying anything.
i'm saying we have 1 US based Bezos owne news paper reporting somehing which is full of "we've been told", "we've heard" with very little hard facts.
i'm sure us in the UK will be better versed about what happens in the UK than a US newspaper or yourself.
No they didn't.*sigh*
Unbelievable.
What the Tories started in 2016, Labour doubles down on in 2025…
Goes to show no matter who you vote for, never mind all the spiel at election time, they are all the same.
As a Brit I feel absolutely outraged and despondent.
This is insane. Absolutely not acceptable. What is this ? The old USSR or the United Kingdom ?
How can the UK think that they can have the encryption keys to MY iCloud data? I'm a citizen of the USA and do not have any ties to the UK or EU for the matter.
At least some over there think they do.Yeah, right. Since when the UK has a worldwide jurisdiction?
It isn’t that simple. Yes, Bezos flinched when deciding to have the Post not endorse a presidential candidate. On the other hand, the Post is still losing money and needs an owner with deep pockets. Meanwhile, you should try reading the Post. It’s an excellent publication that routinely beats the New York Times.pretty low bar though for US news sources.
let's wait for more reputable sources not owned by Jeff Bezos.