It wasn't 20 guns.
It was a smaller number and in Ca. there is a one in thirty day limit on firearm purchases.
If you have a group of people that aren't flagged, each one could buy a gun.
These guns bought by a former roommate were purchased a while ago.
Large amount of ammo? What's large?
I buy 300 rounds at a time and I might have 600-1000 rounds in my gun safe.
If I go to the range I can go through 200-300 rounds in target practice.
Let's not do nothing, but lets not go nuts either.
Shall we ban cars when someone runs into a crowded sidewalk?
In a free society a nutcase can kill people if they want to and there is nothing you can do.
They could steal a semi and go plowing down the freeway or a crowded pedestrian area.
What law do you pass then?
First and foremost to buy a fully automatic weapon legally is no easy task.
The ATF wants to have a talk with you. Extra background check, extra money, etc.
There have been no legal automatic weapons involved in any mass homicide.
let's also dispel the notion that you are likely to be killed by someone with a semiautomatic rifle, or any rifle for that matter. From the last available FBI statistics, you are more likely to be beat to death or stabbed than shot with ANY type of long gun.
SCOTUS has already settled the argument.
The right to bear a firearm is an individual right.
Guns available for purchase legally fall into what is in common use and that is both semi-automatic pistols and rifles.
They have been around in common use for more than 100 years. The 1911 .45 Cal is a prime example.
So why don't we limit free speech like you want to limit the second amendment?
If all amendments are equal, then why is everyone trying to make the 2A second class.
The framer of the constitution didn't know about the internet so why not require a permit for that dangerous and anonymous speech?
They did know about semi-automatic weapons. They existed just not in a form that was small enough to carry.
There is also no such thing as a "high capacity clip". It's a magazine and what is high capacity?
There are numerous instances where armed citizens stop a crime or prevent one.
But terrorists like most criminals go after soft targets where they are less likely to meet with resistance, so your presumed argument can be labeled as specious.
You assume, I and others trust the government. I don't. They can't be trusted.
"Power corrupts. Absolute power, absolutely corrupts."
I don't willingly give my data to anyone. I only give my "real" data where legally required.
I don't do Facebook, Twitter, etc. If you don't know the product, you ARE the product.
See the Battle of Athens in 1946
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm
I don't care how long semi auto weapons have been available, there is now a reason to ban them. They were invented for one reason, to kill more people, more rapidly. My point remains begin eliminating civilian ownership and use of mass killing style weapons. You can still own a gun, jus be a single shot.
I consider having close to a billion iPhone users worldwide giving up their right to privacy is going nuts.
Well as usual, gun nuts will be condescending because I used the word clip instead of magazine. ( see I can be condescending as well) When I was in law enforcement the term clip and magazine were used interchangeably. And for my purposes more than one round at a time is excessive for civilian use..
As for banning cars, no that's currently not practical, but since you raised the subject doing something more to reduce the 40,000 deaths a year from vehicular accidents seems to be a bit more worthwhile than the money, time and effort spent to reduce the 15 terrorist deaths.
For some unknown reason, we respond with complete disregard to proportion of actual and potential damage done. 3000 people killed 911, mostly by Saudis. So we spend over two TRILLIAN DOLLARS, wage a ten year war against a country that had nothing to do with it. Killing and wounding 10s of thousands of US citizens, not to speak of million Iraqis. Destabilize the entire region, help create Isis. We sure do get the bang for the buck don't we.
As for armed citizens stopping crimes. This is quite rare, and will usually bring charges or actions against them. Had a guy with ccw stop two women fighting at GM tech center. He may have saved life of woman being knifed. Course he lost his job because GM has strict policy of no guns on GM property.
If anyone the police are better prepared, trained and ready to defend themselves against attack. Yet more cops are killed each year than save themselves when an unannounced attack occurs. It defies imagination that a gun carrying civilian, caught unawares, would for some reason perform better than trained officers.
I never assumed you trust the government. We all have reasons not to, based on being lied to over the years by our government. The only real defense against this is a truelly free independent press, with investigative reporters. Not owned by a few rich men that promote their own agendas claiming it to be news.
Finally, I stand by my statement that no armed civilian group will withstand a governmental attack. Your 1946 gun fight, while interesting altered nothing. Bunch of guys got to shoot at each other, show how tough they are, but in the end here is what happened.
The new government encountered challenges including at least eleven resignations of county administrators.[citation needed] On January 4, 1947, four of the five leaders of the GI Non-Partisan League declared in an open letter: "We abolished one machine only to replace it with another and more powerful one in the making."[10] The League failed to establish itself permanently and traditional political parties soon returned to power.[7]
Now that we are done with the gun issues, my whole point which has been made, is that for some people, their pet amendments mean everything, while other amendments, and people's inherent right to privacy seem to be secondary. Too bad there isn't an organization like the NRA that will lobby and spend money to promote privacy rights as strongly as owning guns. And this organization would represent world wide right to privacy, not just one country.