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Lots of Kristen Wig fans here; I personally cannot stand watching anything she's in (except for The Martian, but thankfully her role there was virtually non-existent).

Everything I read about Apple's TV selection leads me to the conclusion that I will be not at all interested in it.
 
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Wiig is hilarious. If the show's creators were smart, they kept ownership of it and can sell it to Netflix in the future so people will actually watch it, similar to Comedians in Cars
 
It's going to be interesting to see all of these shows Apple is developing. But, there are so many different ecosystems already, I'm wondering what the tipping point will be. I'd prefer not having to subscribe to a dozen different networks in the future. I wonder if all of these things will just start to bundle and put us right back at the current cable package type set up we have now. Interesting to watch it all unfold.

For the first time I realized I am mostly watching stuff on streaming rather than satellite, and I am having problems keeping track of it all. With the satellite box I just see what the DVR’s recorded, or hit the unified guide. Now I miss shows because I forget that Trek just aired on CBS’s app, or something just got released on netflix, hulu or prime. Apple’s “tv app” is good in theory for managing all this, but since there aren’t different accounts for different family members, i usually see stuff in “up next” that are based on what my kid or wife recently watched on one of the apple tvs, and not shows I actually want to watch.
 
Ok, Apple. I want to order a Mac Pro, a less buggy and more aesthetic iOS, and a less buggy macOS.
Where do I do that? Samsung? Microsoft?

No offense to Mrs. Wiig. I just prefer hardware and software from someone who knows what they do and entertainment from sources who know what they do. :)

OTOH ... no one seems to be knowing what they are doing anyway. So who cares. Good luck. Maybe Apple will stop producing iPhones and create tv series instead. Just let me know in advance, so I can jump ship.
 
Ok, Apple. I want to order a Mac Pro, a less buggy and more aesthetic iOS, and a less buggy macOS.
Where do I do that? Samsung? Microsoft?

No offense to Mrs. Wiig. I just prefer hardware and software from someone who knows what they do and entertainment from sources who know what they do. :)

OTOH ... no one seems to be knowing what they are doing anyway. So who cares. Good luck. Maybe Apple will stop producing iPhones and create tv series instead. Just let me know in advance, so I can jump ship.
Don't worry, Samsung is going to start their own video streaming service any day now.
 
Maybe I'll just pay the extra taxes and sell AAPL now...

Between limited interest in the new iPhones and this (and the HomePod), it sounds like Apple is really clueless about what they're doing and just pulling a Samsung - throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
 
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Don't really watch comedies. Apple needs a core :p. All the blog apple geeks like comics and sci fi and would help push it. Ahh heck what do i know..i just want a new macbook.
 
That's the beauty of what Apple is developing. If you pay attention to the signs in what they've been doing with the TV app, you can see where they're going towards.

Subscribe to Apple TV like you do today to Apple Music. You get Apple's TV exclusive shows like you would if you subscribe to Netflix.

Care to forecast what Apple will want to charge for their Netflix-like competitor offering? I doubt it will be a Netflix-like price.

But Apple TV isn't just Apple content. You'll gain access to local broadcast networks that today require a cable subscription.

You keep posting this in these threads but there are ZERO rumors of Apple striking deals with local networks. That's the kind of thing that would leak. I think there are more than 1000 local channels out there. Someone would leak that Apple visited and is trying to do a deal. Not one rumor of this (yet). For the most part, no local deals = no local networks. Yes, some national network programming can be accessed through network apps (with cable subscription) but that's not going to include local news, local programming, local sports, etc.

:apple:TV has no built-in, over-the-air tuner, so it's not going to be a simple (but not for everyone) solution of hooking up an antenna UNLESS an :apple:TV6 is coming with just such a tuner.

There is a way to get them and watch them on :apple:TV but it involves buying other hardware (particularly HDHomeRun) and using other cable-like UI software (I like Channels app myself). But that doesn't integrate with the TV app.

Since Apple sells the hardware and owns the tvOS App Store ecosystem, it will benefit these channels and apps to plug themselves into the Apple TV app.

I see how it will benefit Apple... and us if Apple could pull off what you imagine... but how will it benefit the content owners and/or networks? Is Apple likely to pay them just as much as they get from cable/satt now?

Netflix is still a holdout but only because they've had such a dominant position serving a large library of third party content.

Or because they don't have permission from content owners to integrate their content into something like the TV app.

Or because Apple won't make them a good enough deal to make it worthwhile to flow content they control into Apple's TV app and watch subscribers opt for the Apple option vs. the Netflix option. If you are Netflix, why do you want to do that?

Or <other reason>.

Netflix is transforming itself into a production company, relying far less on third party content.

Why are they doing this? Is it because the content owners have decided that want to go direct and demand- and make- more money than the relatively tiny shares of the relatively smallish fee Netflix charges? Isn't Netflix seeing that content is going to get more and more expensive but they've established their dirt-cheap price so hard that they get mass defections when they want to bump up the rate as little as a single dollar? So eventually Netflix is left with only the junk programming that probably won't be able to justify even the dirt-cheap price and are thus trying to get enough original programming to keep that revenue coming in anyway.

Is Apple going to pay these content owners what they want so they'll offer their content through an Apple incarnation of Netflix? Or will Apple refuse to pay them more (and thus not get their content to be available through the Apple offering)? Let history be your guide here. Apple certainly has the money to out pay any of these competition players. But they usually want everything at the cheapest possible cost and that's why there's not already an Apple cable-like subscription service first rumored many years ago. The content owners want to make MORE money, not less. And I doubt they want to cede control of content distribution from the likes of the Comcasts, DirecTV, etc to Apple... unless Apple wants to show them the money (more of it) and how that more money will keep flowing in year after year.

I don't know if this is what Steve Jobs meant when he said that Apple had "cracked it", but it does seem very much in line with channels as apps being the future of TV with Apple building a central place to watch them all. Apple offering its own exclusive content is a way of making sure Apple users sign up to their central distribution rather than a dozen others.

Personally, I think channels as apps is a terrible "the future" move. Now it's a matter of hopping app to app and sometimes box to box to find what you are trying to find. What used to be "grandma (user) friendly" now requires some training to know that favorite show #1 is in the Netflix app and favorite show #2 is in the HBO app and favorite show #3 is in the Showtime app and so on.

And that sort-of works when you already know what you want to watch. How about new show discovery? If you don't know what you want to watch, how do you search for it? And how do enough people discover a new show at the same time to keep episodes coming rather than getting cut?

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Obviously, Apple IS aggressively investing in original content production. That DOES point to them offering a bundle of original programming probably as yet another subscription service on the market. I personally have ZERO confidence it will be priced like Netflix or Hulu or most any other because this is Apple: very competitive and/or lowest pricing is not Apple's thing.

Yes, the TV app offers the opportunity for many of the players to opt to support it and full circle us back to having a unified interface to access all of our programming. But if I'm those players, why do I want to cut Apple in when I can offer my content through my own app directly (and am already doing so)? Contrary to our own dreams here, these other companies don't revolve around a concept of how they can change to give Apple as much money and control of their output as possible. Instead, they've already seen how giving Apple a solid hold on another kind of media- music- fares with their music industry cousins. Why do they want to basically hand their video-oriented assets over to Apple's dominating control?

I like the "Apple can bring us everything at a huge discount and maybe commercial free" dream as much as the next guy but when I think it through, I don't see the path there so clearly. There are money issues, control issues, technical issues and so on all in the way. Even history (of Apple getting the music industry under their thumb) works against the concept.

That written, I'll hope you are right as it would be great to get everything in a quality Apple-oriented interface for presumably the same or less than cable/satt costs (and not having the cable industry make up for the defections to it by jacking up the broadband bill on which the service would entirely depend). But I'd like to see some rumors supporting that, beyond Apple is taking "me too" actions toward what is probably just another independent subscription offering for some original video content.
 
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Guess I'm undecided about Apple going in this direction, although leaning toward being skeptical. Are they looking for another revenue stream? Are they being smart, or just copying Amazon and others? Is this where Tim and others are spending their time? What's their long-term vision here? Is Apple lost or smart? I'm selling a few more shares today and will be watching this and other product developments carefully. Feeling uneasy.

I get the feeling this is about ecosystem. They want people to think of Apple for their entertainment, their fitness watch, their phone, their laptop or tablet, their music, and so forth.
 
ROFL..no one is going to pay for Apple streaming service to watch SJW nonsense. Timmy is delusional.
I find people that use that modern term SJW to be delusion. I find they’re the kind of person that has invented some story in their head where they’re the hero.
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Are there any female comedians you like? I'm a big fan of Kristen Wiig, but I'm no comedy connoisseur.
I don’t like US comedies or comedians. I don’t find them a particular funny group of people if I’m being perfectly honest. I’m US born but the only comedy that I think it’s excellent are British comedians.... However she’s still entertaining to watch.

A lot of men’s right activists, similar to that Dylan Roof guy, don’t like female comedians at all regardless of their cultural background.
 
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Totally fell in love with Wiig after seeing her in the movie "Paul". Funny lady, and a great actress (but very underrated, in my mind).
 
I think I literally said to my partner only a week ago, that if it stars Kristen Wiig than it’s usually a **** movie.
 
I liked Apple better when they did what they did well and partnered with companies that filled in their gaps. Unfortunately the landscape has changed and it’s every man for themselves. We shall see if this pays off with good content. I haven’t been excited with anything just yet.
Amazon Prime Video just arrived on AppleTV and they've been partnered with Netflix and Hulu for years. Are you just referring to the eventual future because right now they are filling in their gaps by partnering with many others?
 
So pleased not to live in a nation that feels “both adrift and viscerally divided”.

Yeah because the Brexit vote didn't "viscerally divide" your country... let alone being left "adrift" by politicians that pander to your EU overlords with the migrant invasion and rapidly losing your cultural identity.
 
Yeah because the Brexit vote didn't "viscerally divide" your country... let alone being left "adrift" by politicians that pander to your EU overlords with the migrant invasion and rapidly losing your cultural identity.

I actually thought he was being sarcastic. In my everyday life in a out of the way part of UK everything’s fine. But look at the media, twitter etc, were verging on civil war.
 
Amazon Prime Video just arrived on AppleTV and they've been partnered with Netflix and Hulu for years. Are you just referring to the eventual future because right now they are filling in their gaps by partnering with many others?

Partnering for core integration which is different than an app.

The best example was the original Apple maps with Google data. Apple UI + Google data was excellent. I know there are reasons Apple had to break that up, but we are left with two subpar products. Apple maps with good UI and Google maps with better data.

The same can be said for content creation.
 
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