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Would be interesting to know what effect the recent brain drain has had on Apple's silicon team.
Mx Apple Silicon imo is fine. M3 and M4 would already be in the pipeline, along with early stages for the M5. The problem is the Ax Apple Silicon, where we already see the A16 not actually showing much efficiency improvements over the A15 (letting Qualcomm catch up with the SD8gen2, especially in GPU).
 
Exciting, but since I just obtained a MacBook Pro M2Max in full configuration, it will years before I need a replacement. I will wait for the 1nm chips.
That is not the kind of attitude we expect to see here on MR. The correct response is " count me in for an upgrade. How much can I expect to get on Ebay for this Mac I just bought?"
 
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"then perhaps both 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Airs with M3 chips based on 3nm technology will launch in the second half of 2023 instead."

This is the most logical scenario in my eyes. Although I would dearly love to see the 15 inch Macbook Air be released in early April.
Do you rather have a MacBook Air 15 m2 In april or with m3 in autumn?
 
Apple itself cannot absorb any cost. It is a for-profit corporation. The whole point is to get more money for their product than it cost them producing it.

Great point, but I reckon he meant to ask how much profit margin Apple is willing to eat for the more expensive part or whether it will all be added to the final price.
 
Would be interesting to know what effect the recent brain drain has had on Apple's silicon team.
There are about 2000 people at Apple working on Silicon. Even if a hundred of them were to leave, and the reported "brain drain" is way smaller than that, that's only 5%. The brain drain might actually have a positive effect as newer recruits will have new ideas.
 
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I wonder how much of those costs will be absorbed by Apple and how much by its loyal customers.
You have to think like Apple. None of it will be absorbed by Apple since you have shareholders like Warren Buffet wanting his piece of each sale. Buck up for higher prices.
 
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Mx Apple Silicon imo is fine. M3 and M4 would already be in the pipeline, along with early stages for the M5. The problem is the Ax Apple Silicon, where we already see the A16 not actually showing much efficiency improvements over the A15 (letting Qualcomm catch up with the SD8gen2, especially in GPU).
You're mistaken. The A16 fiasco was purely down to TSMC being unable to deliver N3 on time, forcing Apple to deliver a mostly warmed-over A15 with bumped-up clocks. All of the advances we would have gotten in A16 had that not been the case will appear this year in the A17, along with further improvements. It's going to be a monster.

Expect the same for the M3, for the same exact reasons.
 
Do you rather have a MacBook Air 15 m2 In april or with m3 in autumn?
Sure M3 would be stellar. But the M2 is still darn good. What I, and many others crave for is the increased screen size a 15 inch Macbook Air would deliver.

This option doesn't exist yet and by seeing it in April would confirm the real existence of this form factor, rather than it being a constant rumour.
 
If you know for a fact that the A17 will be on N3E, it would be pretty absurd for them to go backwards with the M3...
Nobody knows this "for a fact" but it's quite likely.

Using the first N3 ("N3B") for the M3 would not be going backward. There are some differences between the two processes, to be sure, but the most important two are cost and availability date. N3 is more expensive, but also available at least 6 months sooner. Due to volume, cost, and market pressure (Apple's facing strong competition from Intel & AMD in laptops/desktops, but iPhone continues to dominate), I expect the N3 chips to go to M3 (or M2 Ultra/Ultraultra/whatever, if marcom goes insane and decides to reuse "M2" for the N3 chips). We should know by WWDC at the latest.
 
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Nobody knows this "for a fact" but it's quite likely.

Using the first N3 ("N3B") for the M3 would not be going backward. There are some differences between the two processes, to be sure, but the most important two are cost and availability date. N3 is more expensive, but also available at least 6 months sooner. Due to volume, cost, and market pressure (Apple's facing strong competition from Intel & AMD in laptops/desktops, but iPhone continues to dominate), I expect the N3 chips to go to M3 (or M2 Ultra/Ultraultra/whatever, if marcom goes insane and decides to reuse "M2" for the N3 chips). We should know by WWDC at the latest.

My take on this is that Apple has bought the whole supply of N3E, and N3 is going to be aborted altogether. We'll know about that soon, I guess.
 
Exciting, but since I just obtained a MacBook Pro M2Max in full configuration, it will years before I need a replacement. I will wait for the 1nm chips.
Thats the thing with computers right now.
They are becoming closer and closer to where auto technology is.
Every model year is a very slight upgrade from the previous.
Soon there will be no need to replace a computer until it's worn out.
 
M3 is still going to be based on the N3E node, not the N3 one.
I'm sure that it has been reported before.
Here is an article that discusses the N3 (abandoned) vs the N3E

I have not seen any reporting on this but I do hope you are right regarding the use of N3E.

I wonder if TSMC has produced enough yield of the N3 chips to allow Apple to use them in the MacBook Airs or even the iPhone 15's and the N3E will be for the MacBook Pro's and iPhone 15 Pro's.
 
Since Apple absorbed all the costs of going to N5 and N4, *and* ate all the costs of inflation over the last couple of years (at least in the US), their track record really doesn't warrant that sort of question. However, given inflation's continued pace, sooner or later they may well decide to raise prices. I suspect that they don't want to break the psychological $1k barrier for the pro, but we'll see.
The rest of the world paid for it. As has always been the case for the past 2 decades.
 
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Here is an article that discusses the N3 (abandoned) vs the N3E

I have not seen any reporting on this but I do hope you are right regarding the use of N3E.

I wonder if TSMC has produced enough yield of the N3 chips to allow Apple to use them in the MacBook Airs or even the iPhone 15's and the N3E will be for the MacBook Pro's and iPhone 15 Pro's.

In my opinion the roadmap will be something like
09/2023 - A17
03/2024 - M3
09/2024 - M3 Pro/Max
Everything on N3E.

Bonus: possible sneak peek at new Mac Pro for release within end of 2023 (possible first 3nm Mac).

I'm taking this prediction out of my ass but hey it's not like Digitimes is doing much more than that.

If you meant to attach a link I think you forgot it ;)
 
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