Apple, Other Tech Companies Give $2 Million Each to Cover Taxpayer Costs of Super Bowl 50

[redmac]

So, to sum up my rebuttal by paraphrasing you:

You don't know anything about it, so just make crap up and hope it sticks.
You don't know anything about it, so just slap your eyepatch back on, straighten your picture of Che Guevara, and pound away on the keyboard in your mother's basement (yeah, I went there).

How about reading the other quote that I was answering to before before getting nuts?

 

[harry*333]

Sorry but you're wrong if you think the NFL is only really watched in America. The NFL season is huge here in the uk, so much so that regular season games are played here at Wembley. The NFL is also constantly considering the possibility of a London franchise.

As for the Super Bowl, world wide viewing figures for the game hover around the 1 billion mark each year, so to say that it's practically only watched by Americans is a fundamentally flawed view

EDIT: basically this is a huge advertising opportunity for any company

Hmmm...

In press releases preceding each year's event, the NFL typically claims that that year's Super Bowl will have a potential worldwide audience of around one billion people in over 200 countries.[16] This figure refers to the number of people able to watch the game, not the number of people actually watching. However the statements have been frequently misinterpreted in various media as referring to the latter figure, leading to a common misperception about the game's actual global audience.[17][18] The New York-based media research firm Initiative measured the global audience for the 2005 Super Bowl at 93 million people, with 98 percent of that figure being viewers in North America, which meant roughly 2 million people outside North America watched the Super Bowl that year.[17]

2014's Super Bowl XLVIII holds the record for total number of U.S. viewers, with a final number of 112.2 million,[19] making the game the most-viewed television broadcast of any kind in American history.

Good points. But here's a third viewpoint: They're both boring sports, played by a bunch of entitled prima donnas, and watched by overzealous whack-os.

Basically, yes.

 

[redmac]

Again, someone who doesn't understand simple economics.
Quantity != Quality

3 billion households making $5,000 per year with $100 in disposable income is a much smaller market than America with 100 million households making $40,000 per year with $15,000 in disposable income.

Believe it or not, some people outside US can afford an iPhone. Europe alone is a lot more populated than US. Trust me, they make a lot more than $5000 a year.

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Hmmm...

In press releases preceding each year's event, the NFL typically claims that that year's Super Bowl will have a potential worldwide audience of around one billion people in over 200 countries.[16] This figure refers to the number of people able to watch the game, not the number of people actually watching. However the statements have been frequently misinterpreted in various media as referring to the latter figure, leading to a common misperception about the game's actual global audience.[17][18] The New York-based media research firm Initiative measured the global audience for the 2005 Super Bowl at 93 million people, with 98 percent of that figure being viewers in North America, which meant roughly 2 million people outside North America watched the Super Bowl that year.[17]

2014's Super Bowl XLVIII holds the record for total number of U.S. viewers, with a final number of 112.2 million,[19] making the game the most-viewed television broadcast of any kind in American history.

Thank you!!!

Trying to explain Americans their football is almost nothing outside their borders is as hard as telling the rest of the world Mc Donalds is not a fancy fast food chain and there is a whole lot more in American cuisine than hamburgers.

Maybe your quote will enlighten some.

 

[rmatthewware]

How about reading the other quote that I was answering to before before getting nuts?

I'm really not interested in other comments you make. From the reply you made to me, I don't really value your level of intelligence.

When you reply to two different people, you should do it in two separate posts. The forum will automatically put both posts together, but will include a dashed line in between so people know you're replying to two people. I know the internets are hard.

 

[redmac]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

It gets really surreal when they start making remarks about your intelligence

 

[GregAndonian]

Great way to hell offset costs for the city I like this idea a lot.

WHHAAAAT???

 

[mrxak]

For the American market, the Super Bowl is the biggest media event so this makes sense in that market. But world wide, the World Cup is where the action is, and this year that means Brazil starting in a week. Clearly Beats is trying to tie in ther ads to the cup with their recent ads focused on Futbol players wearing beats headphones. I have yet to see other apple tie ins to the cup, which would be a missed opportunity IMO.

Are you forgetting Apple rushed to build a flagship Apple Store in Rio de Janeiro earlier this year, specifically citing the World Cup as one of their reasons for doing so?

 

[mrxak]

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Football is not one sport but a wide family of sports, all of which can trace their origins to the same basic game played with both the feet and the hands. Which is why I can easily rebut your two images with these two:

What you call "football" on the left there is actually Association Football. The term "soccer" used today mostly in the US is a word invented in England. It's Oxford slang for Association.

While certainly a very popular sport (and one I've both played and enjoy watching), Association Football has no more right to the football moniker than any other of its cousins, such as American Football, Canadian Football, Australian Rules Football, Gaelic Football, Rugby Union Football, Rugby League Football, and more. Some use their feet more, some use their hands more, but they all use both in some capacity.

 

[CFreymarc]

Perhaps this is meant to be a joke, but just in case it isn't I thought I ought to point out that it's total BS.

As is all this trying to argue that NFL is bigger than soccer worldwide. Come on people, patriotism is one thing, but putting your fingers in your ears and saying la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you is another thing all together. Can't we just restrict that practice to defending apple products?

No.

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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

It gets really surreal when they start making remarks about your intelligence

This is why I stay self employed and only work with winners.

 

[locust76]

arr, the game will be held in the newly constructed levi's stadium, which be the home of the san francisco 49ers ... arr!

ftfy!

 

[mrxak]

The thing people don't seem to realize overseas, is that the United States is a really big country, with a very large and diverse population, and is wealthier than average.

That is to say, Americans have a lot of sports, not just one or two. We can support a lot of different sports, and people are interested in a lot of different sports. There are actually more Americans playing Association Football than there are in Brazil, or England, or any country besides China. In terms of female players, the US has more Association players than anywhere else. As a youth sport, American Association players outnumber every other nation.

But, like I said, there are so many sports in the US. A lot of kids grow up playing Association, and get tempted away by other sports. Maybe they just liked baseball more or an American Football team recruited them away to be a kicker. Maybe they only played Association during the spring and fall, but their passion was always for hockey in the winter. Maybe they just prefer basketball, or skiing, or track and field, or swimming, or ultimate frisbee, or field hockey, or golf, or tennis, or softball, or cycling, or horse racing, or rugby, or water polo, or racquetball, or lacrosse, or fencing, or boxing, or wrestling (I of course refer to greco-roman and freestyle not kayfabe), or MMA, or dozens of others. All those sports are huge in the US, compared to most sports in other countries. We have the population and the money to pretty much have every sport. Except cricket. Nobody here has any idea what cricket is or how it's played.

So please, don't try to portray Americans as only interested in American Football, or ignorant of Association Football. That may be true of many in absolute terms, but to say that soccer is our fourth favorite sport only means that there are about 26 million soccer fanatics here, with a lot more people who enjoy soccer but simply prefer another sport a bit more. The total fan base of an event like the World Cup in the US is actually larger than the total fan base in most other countries. About six million more Americans watched the final game four years ago than they did in the UK. That gap will likely increase this year as Americans have been getting more interested in soccer over the last decade or two.

 

[RichardI]

What an ordinary, predictable, irrelevant company Apple has become.

 

[4jasontv]

Missing the point.

It's Super Bowl L, and it should be played in Green Bay.

 

[G4DP]

You have that right. Futbol / Soccer is a poor man's sport. Most of all, if you look at the history of the soccer, it was designed by British colonists to have the locals engage in a sport that teaches no combat skills. Hence the rules you cannot use your arms. Running and kicking a ball on a battlefield gets you killed quick.

You Sir haven't got a clue what you are on about. A game called FOOTBALL, should involve the feet and the ball, not holding on to the ball. That, that is called Rugby. A sport in which people attack each other without the need for pansy protection.

 

[ps45]

The thing people don't seem to realize overseas, is that the United States is a really big country, with a very large and diverse population, and is wealthier than average.

People outside the US have a very good handle on the size of both the landmass and population. Probably better than a lot of people here do.

There are actually more Americans playing Association Football than there are in Brazil, or England, or any country besides China.

I have to ask for a source on that, it simply doesn't ring true.

But, like I said, there are so many sports in the US. A lot of kids grow up playing Association, and get tempted away by other sports. Maybe they just liked baseball more or an American Football team recruited them away to be a kicker. Maybe they only played Association during the spring and fall, but their passion was always for hockey in the winter. Maybe they just prefer basketball, or skiing, or track and field, or swimming, or ultimate frisbee, or field hockey, or golf, or tennis, or softball, or cycling, or horse racing, or rugby, or water polo, or racquetball, or lacrosse, or fencing, or boxing, or wrestling (I of course refer to greco-roman and freestyle not kayfabe), or MMA, or dozens of others. All those sports are huge in the US, compared to most sports in other countries. We have the population and the money to pretty much have every sport. Except cricket. Nobody here has any idea what cricket is or how it's played.

You seem to have a misconception of the prevalance of football elsewhere though, as if sports such as rugby, tennis, cycling etc are just minor hobbies. There are a lot of sports to choose from in most countries, it is no different from the US. It's that football is the common favorite that is so interesting. But since we're talking about sheer numbers, it's funny that you throw in cricket as the comedy option when it's the second most popular sport in the world in terms of population.

About six million more Americans watched the final game four years ago than they did in the UK. That gap will likely increase this year as Americans have been getting more interested in soccer over the last decade or two.

That stat sounds ridiculous - I'd guess that's based on home viewing ratings, and doesn't include figures for those watching in pubs or on giant public screens.

Besides, all this talk about absolute population figures - this just doesn't pass the smell test. You just need to have been to another country around world cup time to know the difference. Barely anyone talks about it here, it's a footnote on the news, and you know there are very few people watching - the games are buried on ESPN2.

 

[CFreymarc]

You Sir haven't got a clue what you are on about. A game called FOOTBALL, should involve the feet and the ball, not holding on to the ball. That, that is called Rugby. A sport in which people attack each other without the need for pansy protection.

And you my friend have been slogged into the rewritten history and origin of British sporting games.

The reality is it all started in the early industrial revolution when children of age 12 and above started to work in factories instead of farms. The docile, stand-in-one-place environment of a factory led to children yearning for physical activity. This led to street fights and was the inspiration for Oliver Twist.

One schoolmaster came up with a game of kicking a ball around in a carriage field after work shift to "run the kids out" before they went home. This is the real origins of soccer. Higher ups noticed it was keeping kids out of trouble and most of all, not teaching any combat skills. The game was formalized and introduced into British colonies to pacify the natives to keep down rebellions.

American leadership noticed this very early in the promotion of the sport and hence why baseball was promoted (trains well for hand grenade throwing and quick reactions to enemy trench movements) instead of the pacifist sport of soccer.

Rugby is just the opposite to where the sport wears down player so hard, they are unable to fight after regularly playing in ruts. Thank god American football has forward passes to jump the ruts.

 

[thehustleman]

Who would think a simple donation would spark a debate about football vs soccer?

 

[G4DP]

And you my friend have been slogged into the rewritten history and origin of British sporting games.

The reality is it all started in the early industrial revolution when children of age 12 and above started to work in factories instead of farms. The docile, stand-in-one-place environment of a factory led to children yearning for physical activity. This led to street fights and was the inspiration for Oliver Twist.

One schoolmaster came up with a game of kicking a ball around in a carriage field after work shift to "run the kids out" before they went home. This is the real origins of soccer. Higher ups noticed it was keeping kids out of trouble and most of all, not teaching any combat skills. The game was formalized and introduced into British colonies to pacify the natives to keep down rebellions.

American leadership noticed this very early in the promotion of the sport and hence why baseball was promoted (trains well for hand grenade throwing and quick reactions to enemy trench movements) instead of the pacifist sport of soccer.

Rugby is just the opposite to where the sport wears down player so hard, they are unable to fight after regularly playing in ruts. Thank god American football has forward passes to jump the ruts.

Football was first fully described in the mid 1500's, long before the industrial revolution. There are even claims it existed before 1066.

Children worked for 12 hour shifts in the industrial cities, they were too knackered to go running around a field after backbreaking work under the machines, down the mines etc.

Stop commenting on history you know nothing about.

As for the origin topic, they'll just claim it as a charitable donation and get it back as tax relief.

 

[FoxMcCloud]

My Dad is better than your Dad.

Why do tax payers have to pay for the superbowl?

 

[mojolicious]

World Cup is bigger...bla bla bla...Futbol is better than football...bla bla bla. This debate pops up every four years. Sick of it.

Then why did you kick off this quadrennial debate, seemingly with absolutely no provocation?







The only tolerable American sport is baseball, by the way.

 

[MacDawg]

Seems like most threads these days turn into a pissing contest of some kind without anything relevant being posted

 

[TechGod]

You have that right. Futbol / Soccer is a poor man's sport. Most of all, if you look at the history of the soccer, it was designed by British colonists to have the locals engage in a sport that teaches no combat skills. Hence the rules you cannot use your arms. Running and kicking a ball on a battlefield gets you killed quick.

Great assumptions made here

 

[CFreymarc]

Football was first fully described in the mid 1500's, long before the industrial revolution. There are even claims it existed before 1066.

Children worked for 12 hour shifts in the industrial cities, they were too knackered to go running around a field after backbreaking work under the machines, down the mines etc.

Stop commenting on history you know nothing about.

As for the origin topic, they'll just claim it as a charitable donation and get it back as tax relief.

Go back to your Global warming protests or learn real history.

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Great assumptions made here

And so are the FIFA fiscal claims.

 

[donvitoclans]

Typical middle America arrogance...
I don't know anything about it, so it's wrong.
I don't know anything about it, so it doesn't exist.

People in Europe or other parts of the planet watch the Super Bowl the way they watch a documentary. They watch it to see what the fuss is about. No one cares about who wins the game, or knows anything about any of the players. It's on TV, and the TV channel and Hollywood tells you it's a big deal, so why not take a peek if you have nothing else to do after midnight.

For the rest of the planet, including 3rd world countries like UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Switzerland, Norway and about 190 more, World Cup is even bigger than the Olympics. Maybe not in terms of total number of TV coverage, or the number of athletes in the competition, or the number of countries made to the final stage, but in terms of passion and excitement it brings to billions.

Btw, how much do you think Apple can increase its market share in US where it already owns almost half of the market? Wouldn't it be a better choice to target markets like Spain, Italy, Brazil, etc. where it has a very small market share?

Hey Jerkoff,
Go ahead and buy your plane ticket to any place that's not the United states (since obviously you see those them superior to the USA), and I'll be happy to drive you to the airport

No place here for people who won't support this great place that we live. Then again, you do live in CommieFornia.

Long Live Football!
-B

 

[carlgo]

American football could only be played in the richer countries. The cost of fielding teams is very high, even at the kid level. The medical costs alone are staggering, and getting higher.

Soccer is a vacant lot and an inflated goat bladder at its purest and elementary level.