So... when Apple says the "MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDDR5" and the "SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB GDDR5" cards are Metal-capable, does that mean they are 'generic' cards, not 'flashed' or whatever is done for the other 3 "Mac Edition" cards?
The fight of Apple against Nvidia has gone through all stages you could imagine: First, it was an inconvenience to users. Then, it became an annoyance. Later, when they decided to extend the fight to external GPUs, it became like if Apple was performing the typical child rant. And now, trying to say “it’s going to be like that forever”, goes from childish to ridiculous.
I’m not a critic with Apple having high prices, but I expect higher quality and longer expected life for paying that higher price. And going AMD just for the sake they are saving pennies makes you wonder if you should also be saving pennies by not buying Apple.
...I'm keeping my 5770 and not upgrading to Mojave because my specific use case for my Mac Pro requires that I run Snow Leopard natively(not virtualized).
Yes, these are not "mac edition" cards, so no boot screens, which may or may not be an issue (for me it's not). I got an RX 560, worked out of the box, drivers are included in 10.13.6 and Mojave. The 560 is perfect for my needs, doesn't need power, and is very cheap.
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If one does want boot screens, there are vendors who sell a pretty good selection of cards that WILL give them.
Unfortunately, one such vendor was banned from this site, so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention them. I know that running a card from that vendor in my MP 1,1 and have been very happy with it.
I'm not advocating anyone try this themselves with their mission critical system, but I ran a test by installing 10.14.0 using my macbookpro11,5 on an external usb drive. I then shut it down, connected it to my macpro5,1 and booted to it without issue. I notice some graphics artifacts in Safari (with Dark Mode configured) when hovering over tabs, but otherwise system seems to run normal.
I was actually testing for the ability to install Mojave on an APFS partition on a GPT partitioned external USB hard drive (not an SSD). This worked well.
If one does want boot screens, there are vendors who sell a pretty good selection of cards that WILL give them.
Careful! Current NVIDIA has not released a web driver for MacOS Mojave, so even though it says Metal is supported (because it is) you still cannot use it with MacOS Mojave. Do NOT upgrade anything past NVIDIA 9xx series!my 1070ti show it is under 10.13.6 and it installed the beta with this card in it a while backView attachment 788428
Yes, these are not "mac edition" cards, so no boot screens, which may or may not be an issue (for me it's not). I got an RX 560, worked out of the box, drivers are included in 10.13.6 and Mojave. The 560 is perfect for my needs, doesn't need power, and is very cheap.
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Hmmm.
Anyone with sense still running these MPs has a modern Nvidia card. I wonder when Nvidia will respond with new web drivers.
So... when Apple says the "MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDDR5" and the "SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB GDDR5" cards are Metal-capable, does that mean they are 'generic' cards, not 'flashed' or whatever is done for the other 3 "Mac Edition" cards?
You’re running Mojave with a 5770???
Wondering, has anyone tried leaving an old nonMETAL card in for secondary displays? I have multiple displays and I am wondering if I need to upgrade ALL cards or just the main one? I am not finding any threads on the web about machines with multiple video cards and the Mojave Metal Requirement.
Something tells me I am going to end up digging my heals in at 10.13 and staying put!
Question #1) Can I utilize any of the cards on Apple's list...?
Question #2) ...from what I understand/gather, some (or all ?) of the cards on the list will not show "boot screens". If this statement is accurate/correct, then what exactly does this mean?
I tried Mojave on a patched 2008 Mac Pro. It's non-metal capable video card will only drive one monitor, so if you are running more than one monitor, you need a second non-metal video card or upgrade to a metal capable card.Wondering, has anyone tried leaving an old nonMETAL card in for secondary displays? I have multiple displays and I am wondering if I need to upgrade ALL cards or just the main one? I am not finding any threads on the web about machines with multiple video cards and the Mojave Metal Requirement.
Something tells me I am going to end up digging my heals in at 10.13 and staying put! Wait to do any upgrades until after the TrashCan MacPro replacement materializes. Though, after several years of saying its coming...I no longer really think it is.
Time for a BIOS upgrade which includes generic graphics code (like PCs have) so at least a rudimentary boot screen appears no matter what graphics card is installed.
I have a flashed AMD Radeon R9 280x card that is metal capable, shows boot screen and runs every resolution smoothly on my LG 31.5" 4K display. I'd call it the next step up from your card. Maybe you need SwitchResX to get a proper refresh rate out of your monitor.I’m running a Mac Pro 4.1, flashed to 5.1. Mojave is currently installed. Current video card is a Saphire HD 7950 Mac edition. It’s hooked up to a Samsung 4K monitor.
It works, but with two caveats. One is that I’m not seeing the boot screen. Two is that I have found 2560x1440 to be a great resolution for my work, but it only seems to be output at a 24 hertz refresh rate with the option to change that grayed out. I am coming from the mDP via an adapter so I note I can run much higher resolutions at a much smoother 60 hertz, but my preferred resolution runs at a much lower refresh rate and that’s not great.
My application is audio production work, so my needs are fairly modest wrt memory and power (compared to gamers).
So my current situation definitely works, but is missing those two elements that I used to have with the GT120. That card was solid as a rock but only went up to 1080 and I’d prefer 1440p at 60. I’m running a single monitor.
Is there any card out there for a Mac Pro 5.1 that can show the boot screens and run 1440p solidly? Even better if no special drivers are required.
The card I have is on the supported list and works fine, but I would prefer to improve my situation with the boot screen and slow refresh rate at 2560x1440. Any recommended cards so that I can keep trucking along with this Mac as happily as possible? Researching the forums has left me with as many questions as answers and I presume you’d know the answer. If there is a good working card that does this is like to know about it.
Is there any card out there for a Mac Pro 5.1 that can show the boot screens and run 1440p solidly? Even better if no special drivers are required.
I'm also curious about this. There are times I want to see the boot screen (single user, verbose boot, select startup volume)
I'm trying to decide what to do with my mid-2010 MP. It works fine as is. But at some point I'd like to be able to update to mojave, and I'd benefit from more memory (have 16, 32 would be enough, but would probably go to 48). This means about $500 investment.
Does anybody know if the next OS X will continue to support our old computers? If it does, or might, then perhaps it makes sense to put a few more dollars into one . . .
thanks
I ended up selecting this-
Pretty cheap and absolutely rock solid. Happy camper here.
- MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDRR5.