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Then the next buying decision would be what carrier can I use for this phone. Still, if you take any of these best selling Android phones individually they will not have as many sales as the iPhone has.

Yeah but that wasnt my point at all. Nice try. I just think its extremely naive to think that a majority of the Android base is made up of misguided, budget shoppers.
 
And the counter argument is that Apple are selling as many iPhone 4 as they are because that they only got one recent model. (BTW, is the AT&T iPhone 4 the same as the Verizon iPhone 4 and the White iPhone 4?)

Their views differ, it's as simple as that.
Apple believe that just having one recent model of the iPhone is the way to do it. HTC, Motorola, Samsung, etc believe that having more recent phones is the way to do it.


That's exactly what I am saying. Android will always have the better market exposure. Apple will have the better profit. If Android ever loses in the market share war then they should be ashamed of themselves. That's like Windows losing its Computer OS Market share to Apple.

Yeah but that wasnt my point at all. Nice try. I just think its extremely naive to think that a majority of the Android base is made up of misguided, budget shoppers.

That's what you assumed I was speaking of. This whole conversation has to deal with market share. There are many different factors that affect a buyers decision and Android seems to win over on the majority of them because they have the better market exposure.
 
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That's what you assumed I was speaking of. This whole conversation has to deal with market share. There are many different factors that affect a buyers decision and Android seems to win over on the majority of them because they have the better market exposure.

Please stop...
 
But why would people buy a Nokia Windows phone? Nokia used to sell Symbian phones, and for many years (until around 2007) they were the best you could buy. Plenty of people kept buying them, although in shrinking numbers, when better phones became available. But now there are no Symbian phones anymore. Since all these Nokia customers have to switch to something different, why would they switch to a Windows phone? Most of them use Windows at work, they know how bad it is, and they wouldn't want it in their private life if they got paid. The huge majority of these people will switch to iPhone or Android.

- People who don't know better and just want a cheap phone
- A few die-hard Microsoft fanboys
 
I bought an iPhone 3G the day it was released. Sold it a few months later for an Android phone. Haven't looked back since. iPhone is the suck.
 
RIM is losing the enterprise market. Haven't you seen the news articles talking about that trend? The big Wall Street banks are moving away from RIM and toward iPhones. It's not a trend that is good for RIM.

And RIM did court the consumer market, which is why you see so many teen girls with Blackberrys so that they can text for free. Didn't help RIM in the long run though.

If you are talking about the head line grabbers than when you really dig into the story there is no meat in them the yes I did but end of the day those were really non stories that were nothing more than headlines. Really read them and look at the facts and you do not see anything.

Also RIM is not going to risk its enterprise to court cosumer market. Those teen girls with BB so they can text. Guess what that did not risk or even hurt RIM enterprise side. It was just a nice feature that in enterprise was great that the conumser market loved.

Consumer market is an after though to RIM. They are primary a communication device and hands down I still see them as the best communications device. Suck at multimedia and web surfing but they rule for communications.

Now with my Blackberry I never used BBM but compared to my atrix I miss the emailing side of it and the hardware keyboard.

iOS well I hate its email program. I go to the point were I would not even bother using it on my iPod. I would walk to my computer before I would read email on it. That or go to my blackberry was. It was easier and quicker to get relevant information that way.
As for the Atrix it is ok for reading email but not as good as my blackberry was.
 
Apple is first in my book. They make their own hardware and software unlike all these Android devices from many different companies taking refuge under just one name..
 
Apple is first in my book. They make their own hardware and software unlike all these Android devices from many different companies taking refuge under just one name..

Not quite true...

Apple makes their OS, yes. But not the hardware. They design and outsource assembling them. Not to mention key components like RAM, screen, A4 are sourced from the likes of Samsung, LG, Toshiba...

And there's another company that makes their own hardware & software, Samsung. Not many heard of Bada from Samsung but it's out there.
 
-People who wants a Nokia phone because of the hardware
-WP7 has nothing to do with desktop Windows

I bought a Nokia phone because of the hardware, but only because it had an acceptable OS and it was cheap, and iPhone is closed.

WP7 is also made by Microsoft.
 
That's exactly what I am saying. Android will always have the better market exposure. Apple will have the better profit. If Android ever loses in the market share war then they should be ashamed of themselves. That's like Windows losing its Computer OS Market share to Apple.

There's no synergy in marketing a number of phones instead of just one. Samsung would get a lot more people buying the Galaxy S II from money spent marketing that phone than from the money spent marketing the Droid Charge, and they are definitely not getting a lot of sales from the money HTC is spending to get people to buy the ThunderBolt.
 
But why would people buy a Nokia Windows phone? Nokia used to sell Symbian phones, and for many years (until around 2007) they were the best you could buy. Plenty of people kept buying them, although in shrinking numbers, when better phones became available.

I don't know where you got your numbers. But Nokia's Symbian sales are growing only their marketshare is sinking. For example year over year (Q1/10 to Q1/11) Nokia's Symbian sales grew by about 35%. However the smartphone marketshare is growing much faster which is why Nokia loses marketshare. But in absolute sales numbers Nokia's Symbian sales are still growing.

Also keep in mind that most WP7 phones are a lot cheaper in Europe than Nokia Symbian phones. For example in Germany you can get an unlocked HTC Trophy or LG Optimus 7 for about 175 €. The Samsung Omnia 7 16 GB is about 250 €. On the other hand the Nokia C7 is about 250 €, the N8 about 330 € and the E7 about 400 €. All prices also include 19% VAT.

And most people don't choose a phone because of the OS but because of the manufacturer. That's why Nokia WP7 will sell really well because people that always had a Nokia phone will again get one. These don't care much about the OS.
 
Sounds like a resounding win for Android. Google increase in marketshare was 400% greater than was the increase for Apple.

Interestingly that is the same percentage that malware increased on the Android OS.

iPhone never destroyed Nokia, it didn't even come close to touching it. WTF are you talking about?

Nokia was destroyed by the iphone. And Android is finishing them off. Everyone knows this. Where have you been?


... Just so your 12 year old mind knows, ...

Newsflash: you lost. You have no point to make so you resort to silly insults.

Nokia's Slump Quickens as Consumers Shun Outmoded Handsets

Excerpt: "Nokia has lost about three-quarters of its value since Apple's 2007 introduction of the iPhone, which raised consumer expectations for handsets that can handle corporate e-mail and play movies. "
 
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Phone manufacturers are platform agnostic. They couldn't care less what their phones run as long as they are making money. Android depends on such companies, and that's not a very firm foundation.

Yes, you are correct, however Microsoft does more then supply an OS to a manufacturer, they now own, and are now, the largest phone manufacturer. It may take them a few months to fully digest Nokia and start sh*tting out smart phones, but that's their plan at present.
 
come on monopoly.... then Apple can be sued for forcing us to use Safari-based things on iOS.
 
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