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Wait. Samcraig is the original "you're holding it wrong" guy? Holy crap! I never knew I was talking to royalty all this time. :O

We're not worthy! We're not worthy! :D

Too funny...

I think there were a couple of people all at the same time who got similar responses. I might have been the first here at MR. But that PR line of BS was sent to a few people the same day. At least about the technical end of things. Not sure if everyone else got Steve's wonderful condensed version ;)
 
This is like Samsung having the football in possession longer and more yardage, but Apple makes more touchdowns.

Samsung might sell more phones for the year, but Apple makes tons more money. :D

Yup, Apple made so much money their stocks dropped from $705 per share for the iPhone 5 launch to $450 after record 4th quarter earnings. Guess you win or it it Apple wins and shareholders lose.
 
There was a time when every insecure Android user was telling all their less tech savvy friends that Android is the best despite it being garbage in comparison and we were seeing a huge tidal wave of shoddy phones dominate the market by sheer cheapness and anti-appleness.

But now those days are over because the friends are all slowly starting to realize that their friends were lying to them and that iPhones are in fact the most delicious phone experience you can have and they all eventually switched en-masse.

Of course there are still many on the Android side buy that is an element that accounts for the continued growth spikes and the millions of new iPhone users.

They cant be fooled forever and the quality and smoothness shone through all the hatred.

You get out in the real world?

Just asking, because since ICS Android is on par and since JB miles ahead. And the current "best phone experience"-crown belongs to WP8. YMMV.

Yes, my former Galaxy Mini was crap and I hadn't considered the SG3 if Nokia hadn't pulled the forced obsolecence stunt with Lumia800. I usually wanted to get a Lumia900 but that was not sold in Germany because carriers knew it won't upgrade to WP8.

Nevertheless - I personally will never go back to an iPhone because my phone is a tool and not a fashion statement. I don't care for thinner, lighter and the likes.

I do care for a decent display and great battery life. And being 2 days on a charge on average is something an iPhone simply can't do. I'm waiting for the reviews on the Samsung Ativ phone. Maybe I'll buy that even without my contract being up. OTOH the octo-core strategy on the SG4 sounds great for my main concern - battery life.
 
There was a time when every insecure Android user was telling all their less tech savvy friends that Android is the best despite it being garbage in comparison and we were seeing a huge tidal wave of shoddy phones dominate the market by sheer cheapness and anti-appleness.

But now those days are over because the friends are all slowly starting to realize that their friends were lying to them and that iPhones are in fact the most delicious phone experience you can have and they all eventually switched en-masse.

Of course there are still many on the Android side buy that is an element that accounts for the continued growth spikes and the millions of new iPhone users.

They cant be fooled forever and the quality and smoothness shone through all the hatred.

You're also making a parody of an out of the reality fanboy, don't you?

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Samsung sales are way lower than their shipments

And exactly why dou you claim that Samsung sales are way lower than shipments?

And if this claim is true, how can they ship more every quarter? Can you tell me where is that secret warehouse where all the phones not sold are stored?

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These profits are not due to smart phones.

And what are those profits due for?
 
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Too funny...

I think there were a couple of people all at the same time who got similar responses. I might have been the first here at MR. But that PR line of BS was sent to a few people the same day. At least about the technical end of things. Not sure if everyone else got Steve's wonderful condensed version ;)

You could have capitalized on this and made millions! Movies, tv, documentaries, books etc. :D
 
Samsung has like, a bajillion different phones for sale. Apple releases one phone per year.

Apple has become a giant, conservative, mass market retailer. Focused on selling content consumption iOS devices, the days of focusing on creating world class leading edge computers for content creation & innovative products are over.

Thus it's become a race of "who can sell the most widgets", a game Samsung is brilliant at.

Witness their domination in Smart TV's and consumer appliances. Not to mention their global participation, success & influence in large scale industry.

More than 50% of Apples revenue, and survival... rely on a single product, the iPhone.

Now _that_ is risky business. I would have thought that the Cupertino business that drove itself to the edge of distinction once, would have learned from it.

Perhaps not.
 
you're disregarding the fact that if a person wants iOS, they only have one choice, Apple. If a person wants Android, they have the option of Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, LG, etc. So for you to argue about the discrepancy of models offered by each company is a moot point.

You are assuming that most buyers actually "want" Android, and not just a cheap smartphone alternative to the iPhone.
 
Man these are pointless articles, all I keep hearing about is the number of iPhones sold in ONE country! Come back Apple when you can gloat about WORLD WIDE sales eh?

Android is kicking Apples ass world wide and they know it! I see more and more Android phones out on the streets and in supermarkets now, just stating that you can see in every day life that those increasing Android sales being reported are showing.
 
Smartphones not 'Mobile Phones'

This has to be incorrect. The sale of 'mobile phones' still dominates smartphones right?
 
This, and Apple only makes high-end, high-priced smartphones. It's impressive that they're selling so many.

You're right. There aren't many other companies that sell high end products at such volume. Whether its cars or food, the rule usually goes that companies either make profits by selling few high-margin, high end products or shed loads of cheap products. I can't think of another company that is battling for top place in terms of sales volume with a luxury item.
 
You're right. There aren't many other companies that sell high end products at such volume. Whether its cars or food, the rule usually goes that companies either make profits by selling few high-margin, high end products or shed loads of cheap products. I can't think of another company that is battling for top place in terms of sales volume with a luxury item.

Nope, wish I had a product to sell that could achieve that.

I know that the US is their (Apple's) turf, but its also Google's so I am trying to figure out the reason for the greatly higher sales in the US than the rest of the world? I say this as a UK iPhone user.
 
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Nope, wish I had a product to sell that could achieve that.

I know that the US is their (Apple's) turf, but its also Google's so I am trying to figure out the reason for the greatly higher sales in the US than the rest of the world? I say this as a UK iPhone user.

Well, actually I don't think average consumers when they purchase a Samsung Galaxy think that they buy a Google product; they buy a Samsung (and there is probably a sizable portion who don't know that Android is Google's software or even that a Galaxy runs Android). So they are choosing between an American product (Apple) or a Korean product (Samsung).
 
Well, actually I don't think average consumers when they purchase a Samsung Galaxy think that they buy a Google product; they buy a Samsung (and there is probably a sizable portion who don't know that Android is Google's software or even that a Galaxy runs Android). So they are choosing between an American product (Apple) or a Korean product (Samsung).

True, I had not looked at it that way. I Guess my perception should be your buying a Samsung phone that happens to run Android. All these direct Android vs iPhone arguments should really be Android vs iOS. This article for example does the right thing. Sometimes I should stop and think.
 
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This, and Apple only makes high-end, high-priced smartphones. It's impressive that they're selling so many.
It is because iPhone is subsidized by overpaid phone plan.

Consumers are not paying cash to buy iPhone. Indeed they sign up for a 2-year installment payment contract wlth small down payment.
 
So first you acknowlegde that apple is at it's best now with the mindset they had for the past years, but it's a good idea to switch it up now. Your logic is so flawed. If this is what's working for them for the past year, it seems like a good reason to KEEP this 1 phone to dominate them all mind-set. Why change what's working.

I do acknowledge that Apple is being successful with it's current model. But that it is at it's best is debatable. (I never stated that, BTW)

But this does not mean that they cannot improve on it. I didn't say switch, I said add.

As I said before, I believe the greatest growth opportunity, growth, will come from Apple targeting (or rather, including) a different kind of customer.

Just because something works today doesn't mean it'll work forever. Apple's portfolio of products is relatively small. Their quality is extremely good, and as such it appears that its users may not be replacing existing models at the rate they used to, because devices are becoming mature (I still find the iPad 1 incredibly useful).

I'm simply pointing out that Apple should expand its product line so as to play in different markets. I believe this'll benefit them and us as consumers. How is this flawed logic? Please explain.
 
True, I had not looked at it that way. I Guess my perception should be your buying a Samsung phone that happens to run Android. All these direct Android vs iPhone arguments should really be Android vs iOS. This article for example does the right thing. Sometimes I should stop and think.

I've just been booked by my mum to teach her and about 10 of her friends how to use the tablets/smartphones they received for Christmas. Not only are they not aware of the difference between Android and iOS, merely trying to describe the concept of a "mobile OS" is like trying to describe evolution to an Evangelical Christian. As long as they can browse the interwebs for shoes and handbags, they're happy.
 
The carriers aren't going to work that way in the US. They don't now. Whether you are in a contract or out (except for t-mobile) you pay the same rate. Which is why it does make sense to upgrade every chance you get assuming you're OK with your carrier.

If subsidies stop - there's absolutely no guarantee/nor is it likely that rates will go DOWN. If you bring an unlocked phone to ATT now - you still pay the higher rate.

No - more than likely what will happen is they will drop subsidies and call it a day.

You pay the same rate?? That's retarded. What incentive is there to ever buy an unlocked phone at full pop? I'm surprised there isn't some carrier out there trying to take advantage of that. There are several carriers up here that allow for a less expensive plan if you bring in your own phone.
 
Your sig?

That's open to interpretation, but it can't be the iPhone because of the time condition of 10 years. I had Microsoft's Windows in mind.

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It is because iPhone is subsidized by overpaid phone plan.

Consumers are not paying cash to buy iPhone. Indeed they sign up for a 2-year installment payment contract wlth small down payment.

Is it not like this for other smartphones? :confused: You're still paying the high price to Apple.

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You're right. There aren't many other companies that sell high end products at such volume. Whether its cars or food, the rule usually goes that companies either make profits by selling few high-margin, high end products or shed loads of cheap products. I can't think of another company that is battling for top place in terms of sales volume with a luxury item.

Well, there's Beats by Dr. Dre, but I wouldn't call that "luxury", just expensive.
 
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