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People who pull the whole "us customers are going to pay for it" schtick assume one (or both) of two things:
1) Apple is not already charging their customers the maximum price that the market will bear for their products.
2) Apple is not already doing everything they can to cut costs (lower component prices, lowered services)

Do you think that Tim Cook is so incompetent that he would not already be charging the maximum amount he could justify and finding as many "efficiencies" in the business as possible?
No, because for that logic, you would have to say the iPhone Pro model was using the cheapest components possible.

Also no, he wouldn’t be charging the maximum amount he could justify. You put a bunch of components together and try to make a competitive price for it. Apple is selling phones, not pharmaceuticals.

Apple has to include any business expense whether that be a lawsuit, product failures, warranty cost, etc., in the total price of the product. It’s hard for people that don’t understand these things to wrap their head around this but it’s how businesses work. Every dollar that Apple has comes from paying customers.
 
this board can be pretty funny sometimes

ex-apple employee downloads some files: "lock him up"

apple is found liable in court for infringing patents: "patent trolls!"

Pretty culty at times, no question about it.

"Rules for thee, but not for me."
 
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So this patent troll patents something that phones were already doing since forever and now he wants money? I hope he gets bankrupted.
In Europe Software patents are illegal so this is something only in the USA could happen. Maybe the patent is related to a whole device but as it seems that this company has no products I guess that is just a program or software patent ( I may be wrong).

But for me yes, it’s a shame that Spanish company is involved in the news when it should say a Scam Company or Scam Lawyer Company or something not related to Spain. We have already enough problems as it is.

 
If you can't patent it, what would you do if you invented something but couldn't produce it?
A few options:
1. Don't tell anyone about your invention until you are ready to use it.
2. Sell the idea to someone who is prepared to produce it. Keep enough of it secret that they can't just steal it from you before they've paid you what it's worth.
3. Let the invention be open to all (the altruistic option, and it may surprise you how popular it actually would be).
 
There is no such thing as a "patent troll". If you have the knowledge, skill, and sophistication to invent something and patent it, you have the right to protect it. Corporations like Apple steal technology all the time, yet some people defend that behavior and criticize those that actually innovated.
 
Funny how “getting it together” apparently includes inventing cutting-edge wireless tech that Apple ends up using without paying. Maybe Spain’s more together than you think

LOL yeah they really “invented cutting edge” 3G tech that they decided to approach Apple about in 2021. The same 3G that first rolled out in Japan in 1998.
 
imo, thats a bad idea. 3G reaches further areas than 4g and 5g. Any signal is better than no signal.
Ah, not really the way it works. Lower frequencies travel further with less attenuation.
Australia, where we have some of the largest cells in the world, has already ditched 3G we just rolled out 4G over 850 and 900Mhz. In order to do that they had to turn off the 3G on the same frequencies.
 
Ah, not really the way it works. Lower frequencies travel further with less attenuation.
Australia, where we have some of the largest cells in the world, has already ditched 3G we just rolled out 4G over 850 and 900Mhz. In order to do that they had to turn off the 3G on the same frequencies.

am not sure what that means but what I know is 3G will reach much further than 4G. same reason 4g reaches further than 5g. What am I missing?
 
am not sure what that means but what I know is 3G will reach much further than 4G. same reason 4g reaches further than 5g. What am I missing?
Because you are wrong.
The effective transmission distance has nothing to do with the generation of technology but the frequency at which they operate.
4G and 5G added higher frequency bands to their specification and those have shorter distances and higher bandwidth, but they are exclusively used in high population density areas where short range is desirable.
4G and 5G still have the lower frequencies in their specification like 850/900 MHz which is the same frequency used by 3G in many places and has the same effective range.

The challenge is you have to turn off the 3G that uses those frequencies to switch it to 4G/5G which is why in places that haven’t done that the 3G goes further, Australia for instance has already turned off 3G so we have the same distance on 4G as we did 3G in the bush.

 
Because you are wrong.
The effective transmission distance has nothing to do with the generation of technology but the frequency at which they operate.
4G and 5G added higher frequency bands to their specification and those have shorter distances and higher bandwidth, but they are exclusively used in high population density areas where short range is desirable.
4G and 5G still have the lower frequencies in their specification like 850/900 MHz which is the same frequency used by 3G in many places and has the same effective range.

The challenge is you have to turn off the 3G that uses those frequencies to switch it to 4G/5G which is why in places that haven’t done that the 3G goes further, Australia for instance has already turned off 3G so we have the same distance on 4G as we did 3G in the bush.


so you saying 5G if given the bandwidth of 3g can reach just as far with same speed of close range? Or is it going to drop to 3g speeds but still get the signal?
 
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