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Not for some time they won't. Even Samsung's newest S10 only offered 5G on the top-end model, while the other 3 models (S10e, S10 and S10+). If Samsung can't even outfit their flagship devices with 5G art launch, what make syou think they're going to do it with their mid-range or low-end phones?
It's the first Samsung 5g phone on the market, the 5g network is still in its very early stages, give it a year and im sure Samsung will have 5g as standard on nearly all its models. Regardless we are both speculating, let's see what happens before pretending like we know it all yeah. You seem to pass your opinions as fact while being very fast to shoot down others.
 
Well, actually Apple's consumers payed QC via high retail prices. Your welcome QC. Now make the best 5G chipset.
 
or...even the opposite happens sometimes....some will defend Apple to the death...well...just because...and throw common sense and logic out the window and refuse accept anything negative they hear about Apple..

What’s unbelievable is some posters will discard numbers from an industry recognized analyst working at UBS and then substitute with their own reality.
 
No, he was wrong.

That guy is a Qualcomm shill, plain and simple. Nothing he says should be taken seriously. Just look at his history of articles to see how obvious he is in support of Qualcomm.

Seriously no. I don’t believe it. It’s unbelievable.
According to him android phones hit 1Gbps over lte and iPhone 7 were capable of 600Mbps over cellular.

Does anybody know where I can get an iPhone 7 Plus that can get 400 Mbps over cellular.

The intel modem on my iPhone XS max is only getting about 200Mbps.
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Holy crap did Apple get played in this settlement. They paid something like $6 Billion for something they could have hammered out for themselves. Total disaster for a technology people are staying away from because of high radiation.

Absolutely holding on to my 8 Plus for another two years. Refuse to help pay this rediculous penalty.
 
Wow Apple just straight up folded... And there are still delusional people who believe Qualcomm isn't an innovation killing monopoly running roughshod over every single OEM. Hope this doesn't mean Apple will stop helping the feds in their anti-trust investigation against corrupt Qualcomm
 
What’s unbelievable is some posters will discard numbers from an industry recognized analyst working at UBS and then substitute with their own reality.
What’s unbelievable is that nobody has seen the settlement (which probably will always be sealed) and is taking these numbers as gospel.
 
I hope that Apple paid that amount, they deserved it. Apple's plan was to use Intel to play off Qualcomm and it failed. Apple also used their own customers in this plan by putting technically inferior modems in their highly priced phones. Tim Cook's plan, which he would of had to sign off or maybe even instigated, failed spectacularly. Apple deserves no sympathy for this.
 
For those saying that Apple “folded”, I would consider that their main supplier Intel pulled out 5 mins later.

Did Intel pull out because Apple and Qualcomm made up?
Or
Did Apple have to coming begging to Qualcomm because Intel made their intentions clear?

Apple may not really be folding in that their choice was make up with Qualcomm or not have an iPhone 5G in the near future
 
I think the years of this “partnership” would be pretty much numbered. Apple is only paying for some more time to develop its own modem.

As it should be. Apple cannot continue to rely on companies like Qualcomm and Intel. Just the last week alone proved that Intel cannot be depended on as a long term supplier (they already threw in the towel in the 5G modem wars).

Apple developing its own components (chips, modems, etc) is the only long-term viable strategy for them.
 
Apple's own press release is proof enough they caved.

Look at the language. Absolutely everything in the press release was Qualcomm getting licensing fees, getting a one-time payment, getting a multiyear chip supply contract.

Apple was completely silent because they got nothing and their ass handed to them.
Why do you think this means Apple didn’t get anything?
 
The original agreement was 7.50 a phone, once that went away, Qualcomm wanted to start charging Apple like everyone else, based on the price of the phone, so you add, 64Meg to the phone, charge 100 more retail and Qualcomm gets a bigger check, thats what the entire argument is about, the more expensive the phone the more money Qualcomm gets. If we have 2 phones with the same chip and the same software being put into them and one is a 200 phone and one is 1000 phone, Qualcomm gets 5x the money for the 1000 phone, while adding nothing to the phones value over the 200 phone. Now we have an agreement that once again has a fixed amount per phone, its larger then the 2011 number, but it also has 5G support, and they paid the back royalties, which even if we agree that the number here is correct still only amounted to less then 30 days of last quarters profit, or less the 1/40 of the cash on hand, and now Apple has Qualcomm parts for 2020 with a 5G license and no Qualcomm issues for 8 years, thats going to make the stock market go up on Apple and Qualcomm, not down.
-Tig
[doublepost=1555633959][/doublepost]Keep in mind that the cap is $400 on the royalty. So a $400 phone and a $1000 phone will pay the exact same royalty fee. This bit of information is always left out. On a $1000 phone, a $7.5 royalty fee is effectively 0.75%.
 
For those saying that Apple “folded”, I would consider that their main supplier Intel pulled out 5 mins later.

Did Intel pull out because Apple and Qualcomm made up?
Or
Did Apple have to coming begging to Qualcomm because Intel made their intentions clear?

Apple may not really be folding in that their choice was make up with Qualcomm or not have an iPhone 5G in the near future

Intel pulled out in January 2019 when Bob Swan was made CEO of Intel. Anyone who was paying attention already knew.

He questioned Intel's modem business when fabs could be better used for high margin Xeon processors. Serving Apple made no sense given modems are relatively low margin and Intel did not have core competency in the area.

There's a reason why Intel showed nothing during MWC2019.
 
Wasn't one of Apple's complaints that Qualcomm wanted a % of each iPhone? It looks like they settled for a fixed price per device.

And just for fun.... Steve would have declared thermo nuclear war on Qualcomm!
 
What’s unbelievable is that nobody has seen the settlement (which probably will always be sealed) and is taking these numbers as gospel.

Foxconn, Pegatron, Compal, and Wistron know the royalty fees because they are literally the ones paying Qualcomm.

Apple pays licensing fees to the four manufacturers who then pay Qualcomm. This is not some big secret that only Tim Cook knows.
 
Foxconn, Pegatron, Compal, and Wistron know the royalty fees because they are literally the ones paying Qualcomm.

Apple pays licensing fees to the four manufacturers who then pay Qualcomm. This is not some big secret that only Tim Cook knows.
Very simple point, does anyone know how much Apple payed Qualcomm? We’re not stupid it’s in the billions, but the exact amount? As far as the license per chip, I’m sure the guesstimates are near to the real $$$.
 
Too many people assume that Apple settled because they need 5G when widespread 5G deployment is years away. The settlement may possibly be more compromise than whether one or the other than won and in this case both won

It's years away from widespread deployment in America. The EU, China, Japan, and South Korea are moving ahead with big plans for 5G infrastructure and the integration of mobile devices will play a big part of that. Apple knows they cannot let Samsung and Huawei (who have plans in both mobile devices and infrastructure) have a 2-5 years advantage overseas and not have it drastically affect their bottom line.

Every CEO has to handle the good times and the bad. Tim Cook's been handed a turd with Intel not being able to handle their business. He's polished it and it's now behind Apple and they have 6-8 years room to maneuver.
 
or...even the opposite happens sometimes....some will defend Apple to the death...well...just because...and throw common sense and logic out the window and refuse accept anything negative they hear about Apple..

I’ll stick to the FACT that Qualcomm lost EVERY SINGLE CASE so far while you can live with the fantasy that they’d somehow turn things around and win this time.

Or are you going to claim those cases somehow don’t count and that Qualcomm didn’t really do anything wrong?
 
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