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Some guys on this messageboard can be extremely unwelcoming!

Welcome aboard byron_hinson and thanks for giving us so much to think about.

It's especially good to hear that you're a happy switcher.
 
Originally posted by jcroft
My point doesn't look so good sailing right ove your head.

The point was that your post didn't exactly make you sound like an industry insider.

Lucky then, as I've never pretended to be.
 
Originally posted by Foocha
Some guys on this messageboard can be extremely unwelcoming!

Welcome aboard byron_hinson and thanks for giving us so much to think about.

It's especially good to hear that you're a happy switcher.

Sorry. I really wasn't trying to be unwelcoming. Just honest. Perhaps my impression was wrong, but my initial impression wasn't that this was a guy who is privy to lots of imformation that the rest of us aren't.
 
Originally posted by byron_hinson
Lucky then, as I've never pretended to be.

Perhaps our definitions of "industry insider" don't jive. You run a rumors site and claim to have sources sending you "inside" information. To me, that makes you an industry insider.
 
Originally posted by jcroft
Perhaps our definitions of "industry insider" don't jive. You run a rumors site and claim to have sources sending you "inside" information. To me, that makes you an industry insider.

Then yeah probably they do differ as my view of an "industry insider" is the person who gets the information, I'm just a reciever...I don't pretend to have loads of Apple insiders, one or two who filter stuff through now and then, but 95% of my information is Microsoft leaks as thats what I dealt with for 6 years on ActiveWin.com
 
Originally posted by Foocha
Some guys on this messageboard can be extremely unwelcoming!

Welcome aboard byron_hinson and thanks for giving us so much to think about.

It's especially good to hear that you're a happy switcher.

Ahhh its no problem to me, I've been used to it for a while from various crowds! As for the switching, believe me, comments like this are nothing compared to what I got from the top Windows site i worked on when they found out I was fed up with Windows news and prefered to use a Mac.
 
Originally posted by byron_hinson
Then yeah probably they do differ as my view of an "industry insider" is the person who gets the information, I'm just a reciever...I don't pretend to have loads of Apple insiders, one or two who filter stuff through now and then, but 95% of my information is Microsoft leaks as thats what I dealt with for 6 years on ActiveWin.com

Fair enough. I'm sure you're a great guy, and I don't doubt that you have people sending you info. My concern with rumor sites is always the ability of those running them to filter the info they get. I don't think you're trying to dupe anyone -- I just wonder if someone isn't duping you (and indirectly, all of us).

Of course, there's no way to know for sure, and that's what they're called RUMORS anyway.

I guess I just figured that if someone truly had some inside info and was being threatened by Apple Legal, they would lay low and not run around posting on heavily populated message boards under what appears to be their real name. I could certainly be wrong, though.
 
Originally posted by jcroft
I guess I just figured that if someone truly had some inside info and was being threatened by Apple Legal, they would lay low and not run around posting on heavily populated message boards under what appears to be their real name. I could certainly be wrong, though.

I'm not sure about the Legal stuff from Apple, but anything legal from Microsoft used to have to come directly by letter to me if I was to remove anything, and that takes longer being in the UK, but who knows, if its real then great, if not then it was a great fake and I'd love to have that damn logo.
 
Byron- my $0.02 when you get your new host:

Next time post hot-rumor images on a static page. mac rumor mongers are rabid. the 4 links i've posted to your images resulted in 430.6 MB being transfered from my server last night, and it's still going nuts today. You don't want all of those hits having to connect to mysql on a shared virtual host.

Has anyone received any insight from the spymac user that originally posted these images? Did byron have them first or did the other guy? If the other guy had them first, what's his story?
 
personally to me even if this rumor was true it doesn't sounds like an interesting function, I have a ibook laptop, but it suggests that this one only works between macs hence I have a PC , can't afford an imac or powermac ( not worth it anyway ), also I am not really excited...about having my dock and documents everywhere I go I can just use a USB keychain or my ibook.

If movies and hardisks, videos can be accessed on a tablet device..thats a different story.
 
Re: Fake, and yes it reaks of it...

Originally posted by macphisto
If you compare any of Apples icons to this pal logo, it is obvious that it is fake. It is poorly designed and, rather tacky. It's just not up to Apple par.

I agree. The "box shot" looks like an edited image taken from Apple PR with a Photoshop lighting effects filter applied to it.

The kerning on some of the large typography is also noticeably wider than what I remember from Apple's other designs.

The close-up of the green question mark shows how its shading doesn't really match the (famous) Apple-made orange dots.

I'll say someone's having a good laugh with this one.
 
:D I love how everyone suddenly becomes a Photoshop expert when a pic like this pops up. These are the same people that were saying the MDD PowerMac photos looked fake. You guys should all be working for the CIA or something with those razor sharp eyes of yours, or atleast rolling in bucks as graphic designers or photo retouchers. Let's see one of you make an original similar item from your own source material. Didn't think so.
 
Originally posted by tjwett
:D I love how everyone suddenly becomes a Photoshop expert when a pic like this pops up. These are the same people that were saying the MDD PowerMac photos looked fake. You guys should all be working for the CIA or something with those razor sharp eyes of yours, or atleast rolling in bucks as graphic designers or photo retouchers. Let's see one of you make an original similar item from your own source material. Didn't think so.

well I know this is rough and the wrong color, but you get the idea, and I'm not trying to fool anyone. Here's what about 5 minutes of art time will buy you.
 
Originally posted by Mudbug
well I know this is rough and the wrong color, but you get the idea, and I'm not trying to fool anyone. Here's what about 5 minutes of art time will buy you.

If that's five minutes of art time, then whomever made the Pal maketting materials spent a good 10 or 12 days.

Jeff
 
Originally posted by Mudbug
well I know this is rough and the wrong color, but you get the idea, and I'm not trying to fool anyone. Here's what about 5 minutes of art time will buy you.

not trying to crap on your work but i think you've helped my point. the green logo on the Pal box thing is obviously a quality 3D render (maybe done with Maya like the Jag box) or a highly detailed and skillfully made Photoshop piece. not to mention the actual box, which even though has been said to just be a mockup, is still a very good example of quality package design. whoever made this knows what they are doing, has access to Apple's packaging grid and template, and took the time and money to have atleast one of these boxes printed up. if it were simply a matter of clever Photoshopping there would be atleast one giveaway, flaw, smudged pixel, etc and there isn't any of that.
 
my point is that with a little time and effort (neither of which I took earlier - I was at work), you can do this without Maya or Lightwave or a 3d renderer. Maybe now that I have no deadlines overhead I might take a stab at recreation - I'll take some screenshots along the way to show the steps, if anyone's interested.

<edit> Then again, I'm losing interest in this, and don't really care anymore. I think they're fake anyway. Maybe if I get interested again I'll do it, but for now... meh. Playing with my kids seems more important right now.</edit>
 
Originally posted by Mudbug
my point is that with a little time and effort (neither of which I took earlier - I was at work), you can do this without Maya or Lightwave or a 3d renderer. Maybe now that I have no deadlines overhead I might take a stab at recreation - I'll take some screenshots along the way to show the steps, if anyone's interested.

<edit> Then again, I'm losing interest in this, and don't really care anymore. I think they're fake anyway. Maybe if I get interested again I'll do it, but for now... meh. Playing with my kids seems more important right now.</edit>

right. well i wouldn't expect anyone to actually do it. and i wasn't asking for someone to simply attempt at creating a nice logo. i meant for someone to try and create something like the picture; an actual physical package with graphics printed on, or atleast looking so. i wouldn't spend hours working on it, then spend my own money on getting an actual box manufactured. i don't think anyone would. that's exactly why i think it's real. whether or not this is a box for an actual product, i don't know. but i think it's pretty obvious that this is indeed an actual physical tangible object and not a photoshop job. this is no doubt a real picture of a real package with real graphics really printed on it. really. i don't see how anyone could even think otherwise. someone please point out an element of the picture that smells of Photoshop. i can't find a single questionable piece in any of the images.
 
The lightbulb image in the photos is very sophisticated - right down to the refractions of light playing on the white background. I think it would be very difficult to achieve without a 3D software package. If it's done by hand, then it's been done by a professional illustrator.

If this is not a real product, then I agree with the earlier posts suggesting that it was a concept developed by/for Apple but discarded, or a very talented art student's project - if he/she exists and is in the UK, I'll find them a job!
 
Originally posted by Scifience
Here is proof:

http://www.apple.com/es/isync/

Have you seen anything like the one image? It was on the US site before, but now it is gone.

Picture attached:

Hm, that's interesting...

Byron, what else can you tell us about your source, the email s/he sent you, why some of the images are chopped off... anything?

Thanks
 
Originally posted by Scifience
Here is proof:

http://www.apple.com/es/isync/

Have you seen anything like the one image? It was on the US site before, but now it is gone.

Picture attached:

This is the most interesting piece of actual evidence I've seen yet... And it's especially interesting that it was on the US site, but has now been replaced by a picture of Safari.

If this picture depicts something that's already out there, surely someone knows what it is. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
 
naked

Again, ignoring the fake / real aspect of it...

Someone explain to me why in the world they think that this is such great design? Sure maybe this person has some photoshop skills or a 3D program but that doesn't mean it's good design.

What's more THEY DIDN'T DESIGN IT! They didn't develop the grid, they simply attempted to copy Apple's style. So I ask again, where's the design? :confused:

The green light bulb isn't anything to write home about either. The curves are a bit clunky and the bottom 1/4 is in serious need of work.

I'm not saying it's not a quick draft out of Apple's design team. It may very well be. but if it's a fake - why give undue credit?

Someone has to say the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

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on the topic of fake/real - I'm inclined to think that the 'coming soon' part on mac.com is going to be titled exactly what it is titled there. "Access Anywhere" or something to that effect. All of the other items have their titles in the heading format. So even if it is real - I don't think that the coming soon bit is this Pal product.
 
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