What about this old rumor from MacWhispers?
http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/archives/000041.php
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Apple 'Pal'?
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I'm now on the fake (or at least useless marketing mock-up) side. My evidence:
1. The pics are still up.
2. There is no evidence that Apple's lawyers had them removed from any site.
3. The pics are somewhat suspicious, given their odd composition, and, as kb9000 demonstrates, quite within the realm of possible fakery.
4. The utter lack of any track record for the site that broke the story. Why wouldn't an insider have sent it to MR or [ahem] another respected site? Perhaps whoever is responsible for this knew it would get posted on that site. Also, a quick Googling of the guy who runs the site (Byron Hinson) reveals that he is not part of the Mac community (his other site includes a CV that is all-Wintel all-the-time). So it is somewhat unlikely he would stumble across a scoop like this.
5. The fact that NONE of this rampant speculation has been corroborated, and it is all over the map.
6. This most recent idea -- the pseudo-tablet -- fits a little TOO well into the Macwhispers plastic enclosure rumor.
1. The pics are still up.
2. There is no evidence that Apple's lawyers had them removed from any site.
3. The pics are somewhat suspicious, given their odd composition, and, as kb9000 demonstrates, quite within the realm of possible fakery.
4. The utter lack of any track record for the site that broke the story. Why wouldn't an insider have sent it to MR or [ahem] another respected site? Perhaps whoever is responsible for this knew it would get posted on that site. Also, a quick Googling of the guy who runs the site (Byron Hinson) reveals that he is not part of the Mac community (his other site includes a CV that is all-Wintel all-the-time). So it is somewhat unlikely he would stumble across a scoop like this.
5. The fact that NONE of this rampant speculation has been corroborated, and it is all over the map.
6. This most recent idea -- the pseudo-tablet -- fits a little TOO well into the Macwhispers plastic enclosure rumor.
Does anybody see this? Look at this: http://www.mac.com/1/learningcenter/
Now, Pal is supposed to be this application that you can access your files from some remote location. Well, somebody says it could be a hardware device that does this to. Did anybody realize that this is light bulb, and that the logo for the Newton was a light bulb with some stuff in it. Look:
I don't know exactly what this means, but maybe this logo ties into what Newton was, I don't know, I am just guessing, What do you guys think?
Now, Pal is supposed to be this application that you can access your files from some remote location. Well, somebody says it could be a hardware device that does this to. Did anybody realize that this is light bulb, and that the logo for the Newton was a light bulb with some stuff in it. Look:
I don't know exactly what this means, but maybe this logo ties into what Newton was, I don't know, I am just guessing, What do you guys think?
Fake, and yes it reaks of it...
If you compare any of Apples icons to this pal logo, it is obvious that it is fake. It is poorly designed and, rather tacky. It's just not up to Apple par.
Oh, and with Apple Remote Desktop (for LAN) and Timbuktu and VNC, why would you even need this?
If you compare any of Apples icons to this pal logo, it is obvious that it is fake. It is poorly designed and, rather tacky. It's just not up to Apple par.
Oh, and with Apple Remote Desktop (for LAN) and Timbuktu and VNC, why would you even need this?
Originally posted by Foocha
It's an unfortunate name - in the UK it sounds like dog food - well I guess Steve Jobs is always saying they eat their own
So APPLE should not name things after FOOD... I think I am missing your point...
IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE
http://www.pal.com
See!
anyone remember the sw issued by apple a while ago... IP over Firewire.
If this Pal is SW that can be installed on any Firewire device (iPod, IEEE HD, etc...)
it may incorporate this IP over IEEE to get on the internet from any computer...
Awesome!
my 2 cents
http://www.pal.com
See!
anyone remember the sw issued by apple a while ago... IP over Firewire.
If this Pal is SW that can be installed on any Firewire device (iPod, IEEE HD, etc...)
it may incorporate this IP over IEEE to get on the internet from any computer...
Awesome!
my 2 cents
Time after time...
All of these explanations about why it is clearly not real remind me of all the proof cited as to why the pictures of the Quicksilver case was fake, and the Cube was fake, and then the MDD case was fake...
I don't understand why people need to *know* something is real or not.. maybe it is, maybe it isn't.. you'll know soon enough... or maybe you won't. I always thought it was amusingly possible that a very real iWalk is sitting in Steve's sock drawer.. and he gets it out and plays with it every time some self-proclaimed expert tells the world how some leaked Apple photo is fake.
All of these explanations about why it is clearly not real remind me of all the proof cited as to why the pictures of the Quicksilver case was fake, and the Cube was fake, and then the MDD case was fake...
I don't understand why people need to *know* something is real or not.. maybe it is, maybe it isn't.. you'll know soon enough... or maybe you won't. I always thought it was amusingly possible that a very real iWalk is sitting in Steve's sock drawer.. and he gets it out and plays with it every time some self-proclaimed expert tells the world how some leaked Apple photo is fake.
portable tablet!
According to this source it seems to be some sort or tablet that lets you connect to the internet while your on the move and gets access to your imac account and lets you also communicate with your computer..genius..complete with pen.
http://www.toptechtips.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=457
According to this source it seems to be some sort or tablet that lets you connect to the internet while your on the move and gets access to your imac account and lets you also communicate with your computer..genius..complete with pen.
http://www.toptechtips.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=457
Re: portable tablet!
yeah that quote came from these boards actually, read back a couple of pages. my number one curiosity about this rumor is how many times it will jump between page 1 and page 2...snark!
i tease because i care. love you arn
yeah that quote came from these boards actually, read back a couple of pages. my number one curiosity about this rumor is how many times it will jump between page 1 and page 2...snark!
i tease because i care. love you arn
One good reason why it's probably fake
Yes, exactly. That and the fact that this logo is just too large and plain. When compared to the Safari, 10.1, iLife, FCP, or FCE logos, it seems to have significantly less detail than the others. It doesn't seem like Apple to me unless they've just grown accustomed to loving hot-air balloons, which I doubt.
In any case, whoever made these images did a pretty good job... but didn't suceed in convincing everyone, like me for instance.
Think about it, would Apple use something that looks like a simple, aquafied hot air balloon-like lightbulb for one of their product logos?
I should hope not.
Yes, exactly. That and the fact that this logo is just too large and plain. When compared to the Safari, 10.1, iLife, FCP, or FCE logos, it seems to have significantly less detail than the others. It doesn't seem like Apple to me unless they've just grown accustomed to loving hot-air balloons, which I doubt.
In any case, whoever made these images did a pretty good job... but didn't suceed in convincing everyone, like me for instance.
Think about it, would Apple use something that looks like a simple, aquafied hot air balloon-like lightbulb for one of their product logos?
I should hope not.
Here's what I say:
"Pal", if real, is a hardware device. FireWire based, syncs with the machine automatically. The .Mac service allows for remote syuncing, over the internet. If you have a document you need, and have your Pal on you, then you plug it in and fire up the software, dragging and dropping it onto the Pal. If you don't have the Pal, but it is pulgged into your Mac, you can remotely access the Pal over the internet and drag and drop again. Basically, I see it as an internet server system, a personal iDisk, with a nice interface. No need to double click, and choose the server, and then mount and authenticate. It would be based on your .Mac username, so there would be no need to know an IP address to connect.
"Pal", if real, is a hardware device. FireWire based, syncs with the machine automatically. The .Mac service allows for remote syuncing, over the internet. If you have a document you need, and have your Pal on you, then you plug it in and fire up the software, dragging and dropping it onto the Pal. If you don't have the Pal, but it is pulgged into your Mac, you can remotely access the Pal over the internet and drag and drop again. Basically, I see it as an internet server system, a personal iDisk, with a nice interface. No need to double click, and choose the server, and then mount and authenticate. It would be based on your .Mac username, so there would be no need to know an IP address to connect.
Purely as a matter of graphic design, I think this logo is pretty impressive. It can be a lightbulb, a hot-air balloon, or an exclamation point.
I agree that this logo is quite different from many other Apple software packages (though not too different from the .mac box). But if they did decide to go with a stylized icon-type logo, they could do worse than this one.
I agree that this logo is quite different from many other Apple software packages (though not too different from the .mac box). But if they did decide to go with a stylized icon-type logo, they could do worse than this one.
Interesting
This rumor has dropped off the front page of MacRumors.com to the Page Two section and now its not anywhere on the main site.
So much for a RUMORS site posting something that could be as fake as a PowerBook with a 970 PowerPC processor coming next week. And instead we got product announcements that are on every other Mac media outlet.
I'd leave the photos up and if Apple smacks 'em down then they are real. Of course that would make SENSE for a rumors site and not a site someone is trying make appear more mainstream to generate more ad revenues (yes I took that damn survey).
This rumor has dropped off the front page of MacRumors.com to the Page Two section and now its not anywhere on the main site.
So much for a RUMORS site posting something that could be as fake as a PowerBook with a 970 PowerPC processor coming next week. And instead we got product announcements that are on every other Mac media outlet.
I'd leave the photos up and if Apple smacks 'em down then they are real. Of course that would make SENSE for a rumors site and not a site someone is trying make appear more mainstream to generate more ad revenues (yes I took that damn survey).
Re: Interesting
a bit harsh considering the rumor is still on the main page. not too mention that arn's track record speaks for itself (12" & 17" powerbooks anyone). i think page 2 is a great service and since it's inception i am so much more confident in the validity of the main page rumors as being closer to fact then any other site out there.
a bit harsh considering the rumor is still on the main page. not too mention that arn's track record speaks for itself (12" & 17" powerbooks anyone). i think page 2 is a great service and since it's inception i am so much more confident in the validity of the main page rumors as being closer to fact then any other site out there.
Did anyone notice that the copyright symbol looks rather blurry? In fact, it doesn't even look like a symbol at all; it looks more like a grey blotch to me. It should more detailled than that at that resolution. And why is there a copyright symbol next to the logo in the first place? Are there copyright symbols next to logos on other Apple boxes?
How about, the box is an iPod or iPod-like device (as Jobs says the iPod is Apple's answer to a PDA), in the Pal box that has a flap with the little velcro circle like the X public beta had which had some of the information from the pictures on the inside flap (why the pics were closeups in some shots - to obscure the nature and dimensions of the box, and therefore, the product).
Pal is a device that only works with 10.3, because one of 10.3's features is support for roaming profiles, not necessarily NetBoot, though that is supported as well, and Apple has built a product that allows people to mount their "home" directory off of anyone's mac that is running 10.3, even without rebooting, internet access, or an enterprise-focused roaming profile setup. Or even without wires, as it's also AirPort extreme capable. So you can lay this small brick-thing beside a new mac (which most are airport enabled) and have your home directory pop up in the finder.
Pal is a device that only works with 10.3, because one of 10.3's features is support for roaming profiles, not necessarily NetBoot, though that is supported as well, and Apple has built a product that allows people to mount their "home" directory off of anyone's mac that is running 10.3, even without rebooting, internet access, or an enterprise-focused roaming profile setup. Or even without wires, as it's also AirPort extreme capable. So you can lay this small brick-thing beside a new mac (which most are airport enabled) and have your home directory pop up in the finder.
Re: Re: Interesting
er... I think it's fake.
as for the mainsite/page2. I oscillated on it... and decided to leave it on the main site. And either decision was not to make the site seem more mainstream (whatever that might mean) -- but I've found people put a lot of faith into rumor postings... (as evidenced by the post above feeling the rumor is more valid since it's on the main site).
arn
er... I think it's fake.
as for the mainsite/page2. I oscillated on it... and decided to leave it on the main site. And either decision was not to make the site seem more mainstream (whatever that might mean) -- but I've found people put a lot of faith into rumor postings... (as evidenced by the post above feeling the rumor is more valid since it's on the main site).
arn
I could go either way on this story:
Pro
If this was a hoax, wouldn't they have concocted a story to go along with the pictures? This has the mark of truth in the way that the source seems to know no more than we do and is not dabbling in a lot of rank speculation.
Con
I thought Jobs made it clear last week at that high-dollar conference that there would be no digital lifestyle devices except the audio iPod. I went back and skimmed his remarks, and there is wiggle room, but not a lot. (Actually, this is only a con if Pal is a hardware device, like some kind of portable browser.)
Pro
If this was a hoax, wouldn't they have concocted a story to go along with the pictures? This has the mark of truth in the way that the source seems to know no more than we do and is not dabbling in a lot of rank speculation.
Con
I thought Jobs made it clear last week at that high-dollar conference that there would be no digital lifestyle devices except the audio iPod. I went back and skimmed his remarks, and there is wiggle room, but not a lot. (Actually, this is only a con if Pal is a hardware device, like some kind of portable browser.)
It's funny how a vague rumor holds up a mirror to what we want. The mini-tablet people see mini-tablets in any rumor that comes out. Bryce 6 being cancelled? It's because the software needed substantial rework for the mini-tablet. The holdup of the 15" powerbook? It's because of a special interface for the mini-tablet. Mammals.org? It's because the mini-tablet is named the Wombat. (Oh, is that a marsupial? Er... aren't marsupials mammals? I don't know either)
(Ahem) The real reason for the Pal software is to sync with the Apple-branded cell phone, the iPhone!
(Ahem) The real reason for the Pal software is to sync with the Apple-branded cell phone, the iPhone!
the coming soon: Anywhere Access is probably pointing to the features such as syncing your address book and bookmarks.
One quick thing I noticed (for what it's worth): Most boxes of software that Apple releases (all?) have the logo on the side, along with the text, but also a picture. Most of the time the picture is a scaled down version of the picture on the front of the box. The "Pal" box doesn't have this.
I'm leaning toward fake because:
I'm leaning toward fake because:
- The box could easily be created entirely in Photoshop (or printed and then photographed to look more realistic).
- Why is it called Pal?
- What the hell does it do? Everybody has different opinions... You could easily use NetInfo and VNC to do the same thing as some of the ideas posted, and the hardware idea is too bizarre to make any sense to me.
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A cool idea I thought of whilst reading about "Pal" was very similar to most hardware things listed. A WiFi device which can do only one thing: VNC/Remote Desktop. It would be a very cheap tablet which is small and uses Inkwell to emulate your Mac. Outside of the range of your Airport? Um, I guess it could run the Palm OS or something. More fun than useful--just a thought.