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HiVolt

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LOL, articulated vehicle...

Has Apple noticed the millions of articulated trains & buses around the world? You think someone patented that stuff...
 

Zirel

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Apple phone wakes you up
Apple Watch goes on your wrist
Apple Jacks for breakfast (why not?)
Apple car to Apple train station
Apple train to work (at Apple)
Apple computer during the day
Apple for lunch

Where will it end?

When you take out your Apple shoes, brush your teeth with Apple Toothpaste, put on your Apple pijama, turn off your Apple lights with Siri and get into your Apple bed.

That's what Eddy Cue said.
 

polterbyte

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Ridiculous statement. They go hand in hand. Like businesses and customers. One is useless without the other.

This is so absolutely wrong it's not even funny. Swindling Donald himself would be hard pressed to utter such ignorant drivel. Congrats, you just broke MacRumors' record for false equivalents.
 
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AZREOSpecialist

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Apple's recent penchant to throw money at the wall as a way to come up with ideas will sink the ship. By the time this piece of crap gets launched, Tesla will have shipped over a half million cars, built one or more battery megafactories, and will have an international long distance charging infrastructure. What does Apple have? iOS?
 
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RoboCop001

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As a former pilot aboard the Walt Disney World Monorail System, I'd love to know the thinking behind this statement.

They royally messed up with their streetcar delivery here in Toronto. Way, way behind schedule. Costing the TTC a lot of money to refurbish their aging fleet. They haven't even delivered half of their promised yield by this time.
 

mistasopz

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An Apple car with directions by Apple Maps and dictation by Siri... the stuff nightmares are made of. I can just see the press releases after all the crashes - "Apple: You're driving it wrong".
 

H2SO4

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This is so absolutely wrong it's not even funny. Swindling Donald himself would be hard pressed to utter such ignorant drivel. Congrats, you just broke MacRumors' record for false equivalents.
Except that you can have the best design in the world, if you don’t have the capacity to make it right you FAIL. I think you’ve made more of an idiot of yourself than you think. All the design and theory in the world will get us to the next galaxy. In practice however……..
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SHOE AND SHOELACE. ONE IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT THE OTHER.
Exactly that.
 
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truthertech

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Apple's recent penchant to throw money at the wall as a way to come up with ideas will sink the ship. By the time this piece of crap gets launched, Tesla will have shipped over a half million cars, built one or more battery megafactories, and will have an international long distance charging infrastructure. What does Apple have? iOS?


Context Grasshopper. There are a billion cars on the road now. By 2020 the worldwide market for cars will be 100 million. Tesla's share will still be a rounding error. That's why every major manufacturer is working on an electric model and most on autonomous--the market is wide open. It is Tesla versus everyone else and there will be multiple winners.

You also ask "What does Apple have?" Well, they have almost a quarter trillion, yes TRILLION, in the bank and while I am rooting for Tesla, they are in a precarious position--saddled with debt, cash strapped and have never made a profit. In a "down" quarter , Apple just made 8 billion dollars more in profit.
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An Apple car with directions by Apple Maps and dictation by Siri... the stuff nightmares are made of. I can just see the press releases after all the crashes - "Apple: You're driving it wrong".

Better get that warning out to the tens of millions of people using Apple Maps over five BILLION times a week--they need to know they are making a bad choice to endure a living nightmare.
 
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lazyrighteye

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... I think most people don't realize the importance of self-driving electric vehicles... It is the future. There's only the matter of how soon it will get here and who will be the big players. With their size and tech prowess, Apple would be stupid to avoid it and merely "stick to computers".

Agree.

If computers are increasingly at the heart of what powers the vast majority of manufactured goods, why would the largest, most successful computer manufacturer on the planet not - at the very least - be curious about how/if they could effectively play in any computer-related space? They would be completely irresponsible to not be exploring alternatives. Sure, you can absolutely diversify yourself right out of existence. While a fine line, it is a line Apple seems to be traversing with more savvy (and success) than any company to date. And this is an Apple that is so much more robust, so much more capable than Steve's Apple (and I say that as one who has been as inspired by and grateful for what Steve gave us as anyone). But if Apple's goal is to "be here, you know, forever," it is critical they continue leveraging the power of their billions, of their success and of their failures and aggressively explore opportunities outside of their proven comfort zones. Adapt or die. And I, for one, hope they continue to conscientiously adapt.
 

StevieD100

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LOL, articulated vehicle...

Has Apple noticed the millions of articulated trains & buses around the world? You think someone patented that stuff...
Very few of the pioneers in any industry succeed in the long term. Tesla is the pioneer in Modern EV's [1] but others are muscling on on their comfy world. Don't believe everything the Snake Oil Salesman a.k.a. Elon Musk spouts forth. not everything he touches will turn to gold. Just look at the history of the rise and fall of 19th Century Industrialists including George Hudson.

As for this patent, it is to do with the steering of Articulated vehicles. Making them have a smaller turning circle would be brilliant and far more usable in cities esp outside the US where road space is a lot more restricted. Having ridden and worked on Articulated trains and ridden on busses, I do know their limitations. The saving of weight that articulation brings you comes at a cost.

[1] There were EV's before WW1.
 

JimmyJimmyYam

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*Sigh* the Apple car isn't even a thing yet, and already they're seeking smaller / thinner batteries for it?!? I tolerate my iPhone battery life, I avoided the Apple Watch v1 largely because of daily charging, and the electric car that wins is going to be the one with range. Thinner isn't better! The same size with a higher capacity would be MUCH better.
 

kdarling

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LOL, articulated vehicle...

Has Apple noticed the millions of articulated trains & buses around the world? You think someone patented that stuff...

Apple didn't patent the idea, Swedish based BAE did.

It looks like Apple simply bought it. According to the thread article:

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office today granted Apple with a patent, transferred from BAE Systems, for an invention titled "steering device for articulated vehicle."
 

pat500000

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i have to say...I know other companies poach employees but how long has apple been doing this? Almost remind me of milk commercial ..."got poached?"
 
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polterbyte

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Except that you can have the best design in the world, if you don’t have the capacity to make it right you FAIL. I think you’ve made more of an idiot of yourself than you think. All the design and theory in the world will get us to the next galaxy. In practice however……..
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<sigh...>

Yeah, and Apple has the capacity to design like no other, and almost zero capacity to produce. They don't seem to be doing so bad, with all those 200+ billion in the bank and leading the industry even with 2+ y.o. designs in most of their products. Apple can (and does) command others' capacities to produce, which is what successful companies have been doing for the past fifty years. Knowledge economy is just that: knowledge (the ability to create, innovate, design) is much more valuable than the ability to produce. Any Chinese sweatshop, properly instructed, can produce whatever you want. The big bucks are not in production, but in design. You only need to produce if you have no talent to create. If you have the talent to create, the money you make much more than pays for production.

Yearning to bring production back to the USA is par with that toxic nonsense of "making America blah-blah-blah again". It's like advocating a throwback to the good'ol'fifties, in its glorious barbarity. Manufacturing pays little and doesn't produce knowledge. In the Post-Second-World_War world, with Europe destroyed, Asia a big agricultural continent, and the USA as the only viable industrial park available, sure, manufacturing paid off. but that world is long gone.

You cling to "design and manufacturing, love and marriage, horse and carriage" like it means anything. You need manufacturing to make your designs real? Sure, but manufacturers are a dime a dozen. Hundreds of small factories in Guangzhou and a dozen other Chinese cities are waiting to produce whatever you can think of and show them how to make. Just be sure to create something unique and of exceptional quality, or else they'll take about 30 seconds to copy it and produce several hundred million units for a fraction of what you charge. Heck, whatever you throw at them will give birth to a cheap knockoff a week later. they can pay US$8 a week for someone to make it, and there will be a line to apply for the jobs. And that's where good design comes in. The knockoffs will never be as good as the original, and thus companies with high quality products thrive. In my original post I asked exactly that: which would you rather have? No-money production lines cannibalizing each other with cheap knockoffs, or top notch design companies?

Sheesh, why do I even bother?

Exactly that.

Another extremely poor analogy. You realize that there are plenty of shoes that do not require shoelaces, don't you?
 

ksnell

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This actually sounds pretty cool. Not only would it allow for increased output current, but it would theoretically allow for faster and more efficient charging too. Reminds me of the brilliant thermal core in the Mac Pro (which I know may be a bitter subject to some right now, especially when reading rumors about Apple making cars).

I think most people don't realize the importance of self-driving electric vehicles. Read part two of Elon Musk's master plan. It is the future. There's only the matter of how soon it will get here and who will be the big players. With their size and tech prowess, Apple would be stupid to avoid it and merely "stick to computers".

Lol middle-out cooling. Did they hire Pied Piper?!
 

polterbyte

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Exactly that.

This such an extremely poor analogy and yet another glaring evidence you don't have a clue of what you're talking about. You do realize there are plenty of shoes that do not require shoelaces, don't you? Bottom line, manufacturers are a dime a dozen. If one can do design, there will be lines of companies willing to manufacture. The big bucks are in design, creation, innovation. Manufacturing keeps only the scraps. Longing for manufactoring jobs is longing for the good'ol'fifties.
 
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