Definitely good advice. I'd argue the password is a secondary security measure, and geared more towards older security practices. MFA of some kind seems to be (and should be) pushed more. Between two yubikeys, and a half dozen different authenticator apps on my phone, presume keeps most of my accounts a lot more secure than password alone.And yet you had people on here bragging how they moved all their passwords over to it because Apple cares more about privacy and safety. 😄
Never put all your eggs in one basket. I'd rather trust someone else with my passwords like RoboForm or 1Password, considering that's their main business model; it's certainly not Apple’s.
Too bad their subscription model kills everythingI’ve only used the built-in password manager a handful of times. I primarily rely on 1Password and have been with them since the very start. 🤷♂️
Amen. You're so right. Forums and social networks are plagued with this type of non-news and people overreacting to it. Most people don't think before posting their comments. Please put things in perspective before posting comments.If this… and if that… and only if this…. There might be an opportunity to do something.
But it’s fixed now.
When someone comes up who has actually been affected then I’ll join the whingers and complain.
It’s like saying a driver could drive through a red light and cause an accident. But it didn’t happen!!! And until it does.
Apple has been releasing code with poor coding practice for the last 5+ years. This is no surprise. Cook does not understand software and therefore thinks software development can be sourced to the lowest cost country.It’s indicative of extremely poor coding practices at apple. The fact this made it through code reviews (which we hope are being performed!) is not a good indicator of the quality of product they are releasing nor their development practices. Most major bugs start with something trivial like this that is overlooked.
Oh wow good point. I didn’t know that they weren’t doing HSTS.That's a problem (and it's been fixed), but it is niche. Someone has to be on the same WiFi network or is in some other way acting as a man-in-the-middle to specifically spoof the intended website. That doesn't make it something to ignore (Apple didn't), but it's something that wouldn't have affected many people. Again, that's niche -- well, probably less than niche.
Apple's programmers shouldn't have been using http, just as Microsoft shouldn't have allowed http connections to live.com, as the team that found this security issue said (comment on their YouTube video): "It's also surprising that Microsoft didn't enforce HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) for its popular domain live.com. Not only Microsoft, we also spotted several other popular services. But we chose live.com for this demo."
I feel that if there’s one thing worth giving a company money for, it’s to keep my most important info secure. It’s $3 / month. That’s cheap for what you’re getting! Defending against ongoing threats requires ongoing development.Too bad their subscription model kills everything
And yet you had people on here bragging how they moved all their passwords over to it because Apple cares more about privacy and safety. 😄
Never put all your eggs in one basket. I'd rather trust someone else with my passwords like RoboForm or 1Password, considering that's their main business model; it's certainly not Apple’s.
A bug causing a vulnerability?Isn't that a vulnerability, not a bug?
For far too long, Apple has been doing software development the Adobe way: add features with fanfare, fix bugs because of news broadcasts.This bug is so basic, that Apple must be embarrassed as they should have some of their people verify security when the make their first passwords app, that is going to be used by millions 🫢
This is what makes this bug so baffling. Unless Apple has some unfettered access the rest of us do not you have to put in work to make this hug happen.
1password is worth it. Too much of our lives are tied to password security.
KeePassium is pretty good as an Apple device-friendly KeePass client. It has a iOS/iPadOS and a MacOS Catalyst app. Not quite as polished as Strongbox, but fully open source. Free + subscription, and Pro version is a one-time purchase.KeePass is still too Windows only. Bitwarden seems to be the last holdout but I'm waiting for something to ruin that too.
I couldn’t stand being so paranoid as to worry about people sitting at my front door, hacking my wifi just to get a password for my light switches.True
General population sure, however there are criminal groups, governments, and individuals whose job it is to find info about exploits and quickly use them before being reported and fixed. One would hope bug finders all wear white hats and are wealthy enough not to be tempted or threatened by bad actors. Of course that's not the case. After the 26 billion MOAB list it's academic.
KeePassium is pretty good as an Apple device-friendly KeePass client. It has a iOS/iPadOS and a MacOS Catalyst app. Not quite as polished as Strongbox, but fully open source. Free + subscription, and Pro version is a one-time purchase.
Privacy and Security 🤭
hacking my wifi just to get a password for my light switches
$5 a month if you have a partner, but on their website they do advertise as one of their most important features…I feel that if there’s one thing worth giving a company money for, it’s to keep my most important info secure. It’s $3 / month. That’s cheap for what you’re getting! Defending against ongoing threats requires ongoing development.