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Agreed. I’m hoping Mark Gurman is correct and there are essentially three modes: Touch first available by default on every iPad, an Apple Pencil mode that supports more precise input, and a ‘Pro’ mode that is enabled when the device is paired to Magic Keyboard or external keyboard/mouse that gives us floating windows and a more Dex-like or macOS like experience. I would be totally happy with a full desktop experience on my iPad Pro so that I could completely disconnect from macOS.
I can’t read this and not see, “I want Apple to fragment iPadOS”.
 
I am definitely in the minority here, but I don’t really see that big of a use. Sure, it is better than not having one, but I just don’t see what great features we can get out of this without productivity software. For example, if this will allow installing Logic Pro or FCP on the iPad and allow them to run when keyboard is attached, that would be awesome.

As of now, softwares like procreate and other iPadOS productivity softwares are fine as they are. What iPad is really missing is FCP and Logic.
 
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So they are trying to patent the Microsoft Surface and Samsung Dex?
There's that innovation Tim Cook.


Their "what's a computer" garbage marketing and approach has not been good, and iPad OS sucks even when connected to a display and keyboard/mouse. I tried to use an iPad Pro as a computer.... and it was an awful experience all around.

It would be nice to just harmonize MacOS and iPadOS better. They keep slingshotting design elements from IOS over to MacOS, but its the clunkiest implementation. The cursor on iPadOS shouldn't be different than Mac.... and some of what they did with the cursor on iPad is pretty good. Harmonize features and how things work. Docking an iPad should give you a more Mac like experience to back up the "what's a computer" bs.
 
My IPP feels like a MBP when connected to the keyboard. The first time, it felt strange, but it really did work. One huge benefit is a touch sensitive screen. Drawbacks are sometimes 'large', but not usual deal breakers.

The merger of macOS and iOS is happening, and it's not as scary as it at first seemed. (Have I sold out? Am I delusional?) I can still come up with reasons for having a 'full computer', but feel for 'most people', an IPP and Magic Keyboard could/should be enough.

I'm not ready for a single device that replaces all of my computers. A bridge too far for me, now, currently.
The drawbacks are sometimes large... huge even. Window management, multitasking, lack of drag and drop, etc. All things that would be a super simple thing to implement when an iPad is docked and connected to a keyboard/mouse.... but deal breakers for most things. If you just want to write a Word document, and maybe simultaneously research what you are writing on the web, it can work.

I won't even get into the vileness that is iPad file management, while improved, still awful.
 
The ability to dock the iPad to the Magic Keyboard; and magically the iPad morphs into MacOS, remove the Magic keyboard and it returns to iPadOS.
Surely they will then have to pay me royalties for borrowing my idea?
 
This is exactly what I have been wanting. Obviously, similar solutions out there, but Apple has (IMO) the best desktop and touch experiences. It makes sense to have variations when in certain settings, and not try to create one singular environment and half ass the implementation. Touch is still crap with Windows.
 
This is what I've been saying to people wanting the Mac to have a touch screen.

Mac OS is designed for mouse/keyboard inputs and is FAR from being touch friendly. iPad OS was designed for touch and gets more desktop capabilities with each update. It's much easier to enhance a UI than to shoehorn it into something it wasn't designed for.
 
The drawbacks are sometimes large... huge even. Window management, multitasking, lack of drag and drop, etc. All things that would be a super simple thing to implement when an iPad is docked and connected to a keyboard/mouse.... but deal breakers for most things. If you just want to write a Word document, and maybe simultaneously research what you are writing on the web, it can work.

I won't even get into the vileness that is iPad file management, while improved, still awful.

Yes, there are some glowing differences/inconsistencies that make the iPad is a MBP replacement argument DOA, but for *most* of what I do lately (sitting watching the tube, or in bed, etc) the IPP/MKBD combo works. I'm not doing any 'heavy lifting', and do wish some of the difficulties with ipadOS were fixed, but it works for me. I used to travel with a MBP and all the trimmings, and now toss my IPP and iPad Mini in the bag and it just works, for me. There are times I wished I had the MBP, but not the weight. *shrug* As in everything: YMMV...
 
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Another rumor that might never turn into reality, regardless how much I wish it would happen ASAP.
 
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My IPP feels like a MBP when connected to the keyboard. The first time, it felt strange, but it really did work. One huge benefit is a touch sensitive screen. Drawbacks are sometimes 'large', but not usual deal breakers.

The merger of macOS and iOS is happening, and it's not as scary as it at first seemed. (Have I sold out? Am I delusional?) I can still come up with reasons for having a 'full computer', but feel for 'most people', an IPP and Magic Keyboard could/should be enough.

I'm not ready for a single device that replaces all of my computers. A bridge too far for me, now, currently.
I’m down to an iPad Pro and an M1 Mac Mini I remote into. I also remote game from PS5 and XBSX to iPad Pro… To be honest, at this point… a merger like this… would be a nice to have when i need the extra flexibility traveling; but, besides that, I’ve solved this issue with the remote M1 Mac Mini(got it for like 500 bucks at Costco). M1 Mac Mini also replaced an old data server, energy savings alone is somewhere around 60 dollars a year; in ten years the thing will have paid for itself.
 
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This configuration makes sense to me if the 'keyboard' has additional SSD storage, battery from which the iPad can draw power, ports. etc. Apple is close to this anyway with the iPad and keyboard cases.
 
I am wondering what is "macOS experience".
Is it to be able to run, compile and possibly even develop locally software with macOS API on the iPad or is it to add some macOS like windows and menu bar ?
I would wish for the former, but the fact that the main feature of some new {mac,iPad,i}OS version sometimes is something as far from core OS concepts as new Emojis or a new way of displaying notifications...
 
they got a lot of work to do. to make iPadOS just like macOS.

Like change the whole file system to save things locally on an iPad.

right now it seems all cloud based.

And if they do this people will just buy an iPad and Mac laptops will take a huge hit in sales.

Most people want the touch screen experience. a regular MacBook will get left behind if touch screen is never implemented on Macs.
 
Please yes. iPad instantly becomes 1000x more useful, gets "free" external display support by just having normal windowing operation.

The real key Apple needs to solve with this is the transition from "desktop" mode to iPad mode when you lift it out of the keyboard.
 
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Somebody, tell me! what does this mean?

No freedom of speech? I can't comment on some posts. MacRumors, are you sure? What kind of dictatorship is this?

"You have insufficient privileges to reply here." what a fancy way to deny your followers rights :rolleyes:

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Imagine I put up a chalkboard in the middle of town, and offer people the opportunity to write things. If you write something I don't like, I can wipe it off.

You can then go to another chalkboard and write exactly the same thing again. But I can't wipe it off because it is not my chalkboard.

You have freedom of speech but not to say absolutely anything anywhere.

You want to say something that no-one will let remain on their chalkboards? Get your own and use that.
 
I can’t read this and not see, “I want Apple to fragment iPadOS”.
Sounds like that’s already happening. It’s already fragmented away from iOS. And unless they fragment iPadOS as these rumors suggest, along with Mark Gurman’s rumors, they won’t be selling may more iPad Pros. There is no point spending $1000+ on an iPad that cannot functionally do anything more than a $329 iPad. What Gurman suggests is a brilliant solution IMHO.
 
Maybe the article and Patently Apple have this backward: maybe this IS a Macbook that acts like an iPad when it's undocked from the keyboard (skimmed a lot of posts here, so sorry if someone already pointed that out).
 
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