This comment isn’t logical, but I assume in order to throw some stuff against the wall, in the interest of stirring the pot, hyperbole reigns supreme.
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Apple Pausing Sales of Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 in U.S. Due to Patent Dispute
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My guess is that it depends on what Apple really believes they stand on this. If they firmly believe they are in their right and Masimo is just doing a patent troll act , paying up to get rid of them will just encourage other patent trolls to keep banging at Apple's doors.
Obviously if they know they're wrong, they better pay up.
I assure you Masimo would rather get the money from Apple than horde a random patent for itself.
This is not going to impact Apple's sales one bit. Best Buy, Costco, and Target, and the carriers will still sell select units throughout the period. The sales halt will merely delay quite a few sales, but once this pause is lifted, people will just come back to buy them. No one with an iPhone will consider a Pixel Watch, a fit bit, or the others. Period. And in the end, Apple has a cash pile of $61 Billion and Masimo's Market Cap is $5.97 Billion, so it wouldn't shock me if apple just bought them out to put an end to this debacle.
They must either 1, be banking on Biden stepping in to avoid almost any loss. Or the terms the other company wanted to settle were so unrealistic that somehow it makes more financial sense to stop selling from Apple direct completely until the next model. Wild, never heard of such a thing in Apple history, or any rumors about this happening leading up to this.
It was never logical but read any post about any EU regulation and you have a number of people commenting that Apple should leave the EU.
It won't happen because of this, but I see A LOT of Fitbits being worn here at work (hospital) by iPhone users.
I've never seen a Pixel watch.
I wish I had the ability to just up and pay $6,000,000,000 to make my problems go away as if I was buying another watch band on eBay, just like any other monday morning.
Exactly!!!
The "minor" difference between government regulation vs private party litigation obviously went over MLVCs head.
Apple has assuredly donated plenty it’s in their best interest to do so, the question is if it’s worth burning all their political ammo to avoid a licensing fee on two models of watch.
Does this mean the model will be updated to remove the blood oxygen sensor?
I'm sure Apple will just disable that feature with a software update if this continues to drag out.
Once again the winner in all this is the attorneys. Billable hours remain undefeated.
It's not just the number of patents, it's how broad patents are.
No it means Apple will pay Masimo a licensing fee or buy the patent out right from them.
Good stop stealing other people ideas get your own or pay up
Who knows. Masimo has to 1) be willing to sell, or 2) willing to license.
One of those will most likely happen, but neither has to. Masimo can just say "no, you may not use our tech whatsoever."
Masimo is demanding co-ownership on Apple’s patents for their sensors as well as 1.8 billion, it’s pretty unrealistic.
Most likely that. The patent system is broken. Overly broad, obvious patents are granted. And there should be a tight timeline for patents holder to come up with a product using the patent before it expires.
Except now the Google has gobbled up FitBit, you'll have get a Google account to save your data as of 2025. I think this might drive up AW sales, for many Apple users don't like Google and will switch away from FitBit. Indeed, I would have bought an AW long ago had the battery life been reasonable. I guess we'll have to wait and see about how this patent dispute plays out, but I was planing to buy an AW some time next year if Apple increased the battery life. I suppose now I should be prepared to look at alternatives (Garmin, COROS, etc.).
I’m a lawyer who used to do patent litigation. IMO US patent law is so broken that it really should be torn down to the studs and redone from scratch. It was designed for a time and for inventions that bear no resemblance to what we have now.
Halting sales of an entire smartwatch over one largely irrelevant feature that’s been around for 3 years is an insane way to deal with a dispute over that feature.
Halting sales of an entire smartwatch over one largely irrelevant feature that’s been around for 3 years is an insane way to deal with a dispute over that feature.