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Apple Paves Way Towards Carbon-Free Aluminum Smelting Process as Latest Environmental Pledge
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Heh, didn't take long, did it?
Something you can count on. Like the Earth rotating into the Sun's rays at the beginning of a new day.
And yet those same people gladly purchase and use other tech products that don't meet the environmental standards they (allegedly) hold so dear and lecture on about. Hypocrites.
There is such a thing as too much oxygen. It burns extraordinarily easily. So swapping all carbon emissions in the world with oxygen emissions would... well, probably be bad.
But I suppose probably this one industry is okay... although I'm sure people have said the same thing about CO2 emissions...
But I suppose probably this one industry is okay... although I'm sure people have said the same thing about CO2 emissions...
That's not a fair comparison!!
Older galaxy notes had headphone jacks and in some cases replaceable batteries but still had ip67 rating waterproofing
Now I know what you'll say, IP67 isn't as good as IP68
True
So the argument should really be
Would you prefer a slightly thicker phone with a headphone jack, a cheaply replaceable battery that is waterproof for up to 1 m for 30 minutes of submersion
Or would you prefer this thin and sleek phone without a headphone jack
Without a replaceable battery that could be submerged in water 1.5 m deep for 30 minutes of submersion
Funny I think I choose the former still and I haven't heard a good argument for the latter
Transparent Aluminum is next, right? That's the ticket laddy.
While that would be cool I don't see the practicality and from what I've researched Aluminium oxynitride wouldn't be that great for a phone chassis
How much carbon is released in the atmosphere because of all Lightning adaptors, cables and third party devices?
USB Type-C is here and isn't going away. Apple should switch to it as soon as possible.
USB Type-C is here and isn't going away. Apple should switch to it as soon as possible.
Required was probably too strong of a word. The phones are actually reasonably repairable in the sense that battery service is available and and screen components can be replaced, but I was mainly referring to the ability to take older Macs and keep them relevant by expanding RAM, and swapping old HDDs for faster or larger SDDs. That bought me at least an extra 2 years on my old 2010 MBP.
My newer retina MacBook has a keyboard and trackpad that can't be replaced aside from replacing the whole section of the case, and a battery that requires the bottom plate to be swapped out. Granted I love the form factor, and luckily got the upgraded version at the time, but that requires people to front load the entire fully-loaded cost, or have the device become obsolete much sooner (i.e. iMacs that still ship with 5000 RPM drives, but require a toolkit with a suction cup to replace).
I'll take the fully sealed device without the additional ingress point that a headphone jack, that I do not use, creates. One that does not have a flimsy, cheap feeling plastic back with seals that are easily damaged, causing you to not know if your phone is actually resisting water until it stops working. One that has an official, in-spec battery sealed inside, that I know isn't going to cause fires.
And if I was really, really concerned about IP rating, my phone would be in a Catalyst Waterproof case for situations beyond just washing it off.
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I absolutely agree. Apple has always been touting that the products are recyclable, this or that... but the fact that they are pretty much sealed units, with little repair options, and Apple is also fighting the 3rd party repair business, which like you said, are willing to fix issues that Apple does fix, just expect you to shell out big money for replacement parts or the whole device.
We should be more concerned about this....
"The first thing you should know is that the fluoride they put in our drinking water is not a pharmaceutical grade additive.
It is an industrial waste byproduct.
As aluminum production increased in the first half of the twentieth century, it became necessary to find somewhere to put the fluoride. Manufacturers could no longer dump it into rivers or landfills, because it was poisoning crops and making livestock sick. Francis Frary, chief scientist for ALCOA, had an idea. He commissioned Gerald Cox at the Mellon Institute, to conduct research regarding the benefits of adding fluoride to the water supply.
The Mellon Institute was frequently hired by big business to produce research that supported their industries, and for several decades they produced research showing that asbestos was safe and did not cause cancer. Hmmm.
They also produced reports assuring everyone that fluoride was not toxic and would be beneficial to add to our drinking water for healthy teeth."
Article: https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/fluoride-is-poison/
"The first thing you should know is that the fluoride they put in our drinking water is not a pharmaceutical grade additive.
It is an industrial waste byproduct.
As aluminum production increased in the first half of the twentieth century, it became necessary to find somewhere to put the fluoride. Manufacturers could no longer dump it into rivers or landfills, because it was poisoning crops and making livestock sick. Francis Frary, chief scientist for ALCOA, had an idea. He commissioned Gerald Cox at the Mellon Institute, to conduct research regarding the benefits of adding fluoride to the water supply.
The Mellon Institute was frequently hired by big business to produce research that supported their industries, and for several decades they produced research showing that asbestos was safe and did not cause cancer. Hmmm.
They also produced reports assuring everyone that fluoride was not toxic and would be beneficial to add to our drinking water for healthy teeth."
Article: https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/fluoride-is-poison/
While you may be right there may only be a handful of nerds that want to buy an upgradeable phone
There are more people that would pay an urge to upgrade their phone for them especially if it was the cheaper option to get an equivalent device.
Then you got a remember repair is more important and popular to normal people but requires the same principles to be followed as a upgradeable phone
Well yes you may be right that required is a stretch in some cases, remember apps to increase their requirements as does the App Store
anyone needing an old nonupdated 32bit app can attest to that
Using the same logic about a required phone though could be applied to no one needs an iPhone we can all be fine with flip phones, or the telegraph so it's kind of a bogus argument
While that would be beneficial for overall reduction of waste, these phones have been integrated so well in our daily routines that a lot of individuals still will want the latest and greatest. I've been guilty of this in the past with android offerings. However, strangely enough, ever since I've switched to an iPhone 7 when it came out, the itch to update has gone down - most likely due to a consistent experience (plus matte black = sexiness).
And don’t ever forget kiddos.
Rich people and capitalism are what saves the environment.
Government get out of the way.
Rich people and capitalism are what saves the environment.
Government get out of the way.
Even on this tech forum, you are speaking for less than 1% of all visitors. Apple makes big moves for the largest groups of consumers so repairability is never going to be on any priority list at Apple.
Where's the harm in pushing for greater corporate responsibility? I'm always happy to read about environmental improvements from any company, but let's not forget that so many Fortune 500 companies, including Apple, are propped up on the poor of this and other countries. Are you or I intrinsically worth more than any poor wretch who is worked nearly to death to build devices that "first-world" citizens use to mostly to play games and jerk off?
Yeah, the "nothing is ever good enough" crowd can get on my nerves, too. But ask yourself what the real problems are before you start swinging the bat.
Not too mention that plants require CO2 to survive. At what point does reducing CO2 start negatively impacting plant life and thus the O2 other life forms require to exist?
Apple is a luxury brand. Thicker and heavier are the enemy even if shorter battery life comes with it. No Apple customer thinks about repairability while they are purchasing a new $1,000 iPhone. Apple knows this and so do all of their customers.
Are you going to stop using any forms of transportation? The automotive sector uses one of the highest amounts of aluminum. There is 100X more aluminum in an engine block, tractor or trailer bodies than in an iPhone.
This is actually very big news in the aluminum industry and environment. The entire world except the US is participating in the Paris agreement, so I get that there will be nay sayers from the US.
Just cause those notes had plastic backs doesn't mean Apple would have to
The point I was making as it was physically possible and Apple has no excuse beyond what they want to do
Same with the seals they don't need to be flimsy
Infact as of right now you have no proof that your phone is waterproof you just know that its supposed to be.
For all you know a defect could mean that water could seep in and you won't be able to have access to the liquid indicator sticker to see if it's tripped or not or be able to replace that seal that may be defective
Where is with my preference you would not only be able to see the seal and any liquid damage indicators but replace them if you were concerned or needed to repair the device
How you can justify less choice for more money is beyond me.
Remember if you don't fight for these issues now then when/if there's a feature down the road that you don't like it'll be too late
Would you be happy to only be able to fix your car at the dealership for whatever they want to charge that is of course if they even want to bother fixing it?
What if they also require you to get gas there? Or dictate what road you can and cannot use?
Lack of choice/freedom is never a good option
If anything your argument would be more along the lines of Apple needs more choice not less
They should offer what I want and what you want to see which one the general populace prefers