Apple Pay card enrollment strictly for 6 and 6 Plus?

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  1. nouveau-apple macrumors 6502a

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    Will the update enable 5s users to capture their cards?
     
  2. nathanalf macrumors regular

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    I would assume so, but probably not until the Apple Watch is released (as that's what older iPhones need to actually utilize this feature).

    Going off nothing but speculation here though! :p
     
  3. Tyler23, Oct 13, 2014
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    Potentially. The 5s does not have NFC so it could not make payments in stores, however, it does have Touch ID and could make payments within apps.
     
  4. 617aircav Suspended

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    Does the 5s have nfc?
     
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    No it does not.
     
  7. nathanalf macrumors regular

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    Nope. The 6 & 6 Plus are the only phones that have it. Apple Watch will also include NFC and Apple Pay functionality, and they have said that you need to have a 4S or newer to use the watch. So the 4S, 5 and 5S can all theoretically use Apple Pay as long as they also have an Apple Watch.
     
  8. Roessnakhan macrumors 68040

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    Can't you already do this with Safari & Autofill?
     
  9. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    If you get the :apple:Watch, you'll be able to use :apple:Pay with iPhone 5 or newer for in-store purchases.
     
  10. Tyler23 macrumors 603

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    I shouldn't have typed "websites." There will be a specific button for it built in to apps updated to support Apple Pay. Websites will continue using the same function as they do now.
     
  11. BruiserB macrumors 65816

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    But that autofills your actual card number. ApplePay will send the tokenized numbers so will be more secure.
     
  12. Appl3FTW macrumors 603

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    Yes only on the 6 series because of NFC exclusive
     
  13. Roessnakhan macrumors 68040

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    Gotcha, I should have assumed that.
     
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  15. nouveau-apple thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Sounds complicated. I assume you can since on the 5s the Passbook app is updated with a credit card icon.
     
  16. madsci954 macrumors 68030

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    I guess we'll find out in the coming days.

    Slight correction, 4s is not supported. You need a 5 or newer to work with Apple Watch.
     
  17. nouveau-apple thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    You have to have the watch to use it? That's weird. That's expensive. So what do you do, do have to have the watch on and that's it? It will pick up the signal?
     
  18. Rigby macrumors 601

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    I'd be very surprised if the 5S allowed you to enroll cards in Passbook, since it has no Secure Element (which is where the 6 stores the card token and the key for generating one-time codes).
     
  19. Smtevo macrumors 6502

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    no sorry apple pay will NOT work with the 5s or anything except the 6 and 6+.
     
  20. caesarp macrumors 6502a

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    Actually it has a secure enclave to store the fingerprint data.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5949
     
  21. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Secure Enclave != Secure Element
     
  22. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Who cares about the fingerprint.
    It doesn't have the nfc tech needed for apple pay.
    It's hardware missing from previous devices in order to communicate with the payment device.
     
  23. Rigby macrumors 601

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    If it had a secure element, you could use it for Apple Pay online purchases. But it doesn't.
     
  24. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    That's what I figured too;)
     
  25. Supermallet macrumors 65816

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    Are you sure? I could have sworn that the terms were used synonymously by Apple.
     

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