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In Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo you associate a transit card account (Octopus in HK, Suica in Tokyo) with Apple Pay and then set it as your express transit account.

Uh, that's not right. Octopus isn't part of Apple Pay.
 
Unfortunately they got rid of the 5% bonus across the board during the last fare hike :(. Now we have no more bonus and unlimited passes are $127 a month.

yeah I guess this change was effective April 21. Its funny, when I read this thread earlier today I searched for a fare chart and found one where the 5% bonus was still mentioned. but I can no longer find this same page to link it to this post. oh well. i guess that is a moot point.

That too is incorrect - it has nothing do to with riding the 4, 5, & 6 lines specifically - you could be taking the 7 or S at Grand Central, the L, N, Q, R or W at Union Square or practically every subway line under the sun at Atlantic

I think the article just means that the 4,5,6 line is going to be the 1st to be completely "electrified" with OMNY at least for the pilot program -- u can still use it with other lines, but currently only at points (like Grand Central) where these other lines connect to the 4,5, 6.
 
I just got back from the UK and using Apple Pay to pay for Tube and Bus service around London was an amazing experience. I really hope NYC doesn't screw this up.
 
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This better work 100% day one! Because New Yorkers don’t have time to mess around with beta software during rush hour.
 
Yes, I should have mentioned that. You would either link it to a credit/debit card account or use a Metrocard account.

I don't believe that is correct. You simply designate one of your cards as your Express Transit Card on your iPhone (and Apple Watch, if you have one) and it allows you to pay for your single ride at the turnstile with Apple Pay, but without authenticating with TouchID or FaceID.

There is currently no way to link it to a MetroCard account, which is why it doesn't work with discounted fares.
 
Congratulations, NewYork City!

Welcome to London in 2003!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_card


Was just over in London. Its really amazing being able to pay for most things using my Apple Watch.

On LFT (London transport). Its amazing being able to pay for a journey using my watch. And if you do several trips during the day, it only changes you the day rate for the zone/s you travel in.

Amsterdam could learn a lot!!!! Please bring it to Holland
 
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wait what? i thought this system was supposed to roll out by the end of this year, not 2020! so those of us who use unlimited cards will be the last to take advantage of this? great, this is just like t-mobile's esim, thanks!
 
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I went to London and made a point to use only public transportation. I live in socal and have tried to use transit here. The difference was astounding. From simplicity of paying fares, to conditions on the systems, and the the class of people using it, was stark.

"The class of people using it"? Yeah, that's what you get when you have good transit: people of all classes use it. Here in NYC everyone uses public transportation because, well, it's too dense to do otherwise unless you want to sit in traffic for a thousand years.
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Paying with ApplePay is a natural action once you've used it a few times. Easier if you have Face ID :)
I will look forward to this for when I need a single ride and my card has run out (ands in the future when I can load up a card). It'll also be great on the bus!

I'm skeptical that it can be anywhere near as fast as a good, crisp Metrocard swipe. I just hope this isn't an additional holdup as people fumble to unlock their phones, get distracted by them, etc. But we'll soon see, maybe I'll be proved wrong.
 
I don't believe that is correct. You simply designate one of your cards as your Express Transit Card on your iPhone (and Apple Watch, if you have one) and it allows you to pay for your single ride at the turnstile with Apple Pay, but without authenticating with TouchID or FaceID.

There is currently no way to link it to a MetroCard account, which is why it doesn't work with discounted fares.

I must have misconstrued. I remember reading that NYC Transit was going to have a contactless metrocard for people who don’t have credit cards. (Lots of NY’ers). Anyway, this is just a test rollout. I can’t wait to buzz myself in with my watch.
 
I don't know. It may be faster to swipe your metrocard than use Apple Pay at a turnstile unless its more reliable than other Apple Pay terminals I've used at stores where I've had to position the iPhone just right in order for it to go through. If that happens at these turnstiles, a person waving their phone will get shouted out of the station during rush hour.
 
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Wow can't believe it's taken them this long – but finally! Those paper cards are so ridiculous and belongs in the 80s. Pretty much every other country has – if not paying by phone – a solid card you refill with cash and can use for convenience store and other quick payments as well. EasyCard in Taiwan, T-Money in Korea, SUICA in Japan, etc. In Europe you often just pay by app.
 
snip...Those paper cards are so ridiculous and belongs in the 80s. Pretty much every other country has – if not paying by phone – a solid card you refill with cash ...
1: The cards are not paper.

2: EasyPay Options for MetroCard:

EasyPay allows you to pay for rides automatically with a credit/debit card. Once you sign-up, your MetroCard refills whenever the balance is low. This is a great option for riders who might not live near a MetroCard Vending Machine or who don’t want to bother refilling their cards.

Research before you type.
 
Wow can't believe it's taken them this long – but finally! Those paper cards are so ridiculous and belongs in the 80s. Pretty much every other country has – if not paying by phone – a solid card you refill with cash and can use for convenience store and other quick payments as well. EasyCard in Taiwan, T-Money in Korea, SUICA in Japan, etc. In Europe you often just pay by app.

Metrocards are plastic. They're dated for 1 year of use. The bus transfers are paper. But, yeah, this is a big thing.
 
Not clear what your're getting at.


Perhaps you could explain further your 2003 reference.

um gee - Apple Pay and iPhones did not exist in 2003 - there's that.
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I'm skeptical that it can be anywhere near as fast as a good, crisp Metrocard swipe. I just hope this isn't an additional holdup as people fumble to unlock their phones, get distracted by them, etc. But we'll soon see, maybe I'll be proved wrong.

fair enough but how many times do you see people fumbling their metro cards - quite a lot.
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You're doing something wrong if it takes you a long time to use Apple Pay at the store. It is probably faster than swiping the card was, near instant.

absolutely agree - depends on the type of terminal but it's so fast.
 
Considering how long it takes me to use apple pay at the store, I think the metrocard swipe is faster.
Considering how often I (and others around me) have to swipe multiple times (causing the queue to stall), if the average of read-on-first-try increases even marginally, then this will be a winner. Then, deduct the time lost at MetroCard machines to replace worn cards, taking the card out of my wallet... I’ll be much happier using my Watch.

Compare any card- or NFC/RFID-based system to the bizarre app-based system used by NJ Transit... In order to avoid the expense of any kind of electronic reader, the app generates the image of a ticket with a variety of counterfeit-resistant features: date/time-specific color code, actively-updating date/time, one-hour expiration (so a screen capture video is useless after one hour)... one must activate a ticket prior to boarding, but not so soon that a transit delay renders the ticket void. Ugh!
 
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I don't get the mention of Apple Pay, or Retina Display, or whatever Apple defined commodity that has another name.

This is contactless payment. Credit cards, debit cards with the little symbol on them can be held near an NFC reader to pay.

These are found all over the world on terminals, scan your card, or phone, you've paid by NFC.

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This just came to shanghai recently. Tried it the other day... so fun and easy.
 
In Vancouver, you don't associate Apple Pay (or Google Pay or any physical tap to pay credit/debit card) with any account, it just comes out as a cash fare. Getting a preloaded Compass Card gives people access to lower prepaid fares but for visitors and casual riders, being able to use credit/debit is a quick and easy way to do it.

There are occasional fare checkers who go around making sure no one's jumped the gate but they can quickly verify that someone's credit/debit card has a valid fare on it good for 120 minutes from when they first tapped in (90 minutes is the limit for the final transfer)
 
The article says you need a 6S or newer... the 6 and 6+ also had NFC/Apple Pay, though. Are they not sufficient for it? Is there something extra special that is needed that was added to the 6S?

Also, far more often than my iPhone, I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch. Will I be able to use that? The article doesn’t mention Apple Watches working at all...

It does "After you've registered a credit or debit card, you can then take advantage of the new Express Transit NFC feature, which allows you to tap your iPhone or Apple Watch against the fare reader to pay and go."
 
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