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Apple pay has only launched in English speaking countries so far.. racism

...Canada is French speaking... And you're probably American, non?
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Currently, Canadian banks pay 0.6 cents per debit transaction, as Interac is a non-profit that only charges its members what its operating costs are to handle the transaction flow.

When I lived in Australia, I suffered free bank transfers to anyone else in Australia... Interact charge $1.25... Maybe they're not trying to achieve "non-profit" hard enough...
 
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Love my 6s, but reading these articles on Apple Pay reminds me that I'm not getting all the features I paid for.
Hopefully Apple Pay comes to Japan by iPhone 9.
 
as someone who travels often, this is pretty sweet if it works.

in china, mobile payments are in incredibly wide usage already, so i'm not sure if apple pay will get adoption from merchants, who have no incentive to provide these.
 
as someone who travels often, this is pretty sweet if it works.

in china, mobile payments are in incredibly wide usage already, so i'm not sure if apple pay will get adoption from merchants, who have no incentive to provide these.

pretty much every payment terminal i've seen in shenzhen the last 12 months is equipped for quickpass. and none of them use it. i'm looking forward to using it in burger king and mcdonalds where they at least have customer facing payment terminals - -

and actually, in mcdonalds for the last few months i've been able to use wechat pay or alipay instead anyway.

i was thinking last night, apple brokering some kind of deal to allow direct access to the alipay or wechat payment QR codes within a wallet pass (ie, i could access it like any apple pay card or passbook pass with a double tap of the home button and the qr code would refresh and become valid upon use of touch id to authenticate) would be more beneficial.
 
And in Germany there is still no sign of it, a market that Apple keeps forgetting. Germany is a main player in Europe, but Apple seems to forget about it all the time.
Perhaps German retailers should start accepting Visa and MasterCard in the first place before they venture into newer technologies like Apple Pay.
 
Apple pays is not going well. Not in HomeDepot, Lowes, Walmart, Kroger, Target, Publix, QuickTrip, RaceTrac, ... Apple should have purchased LoopPay instead of spending hundreds of billions of dollars to buy and burn stocks. It was only $250 millions.

Hopefully others have mentioned. But this isn't a failing with Apple Pay - more the stores in your country. Apple Pay does nothing special. Just works like any other contactless payment. (the stores you mention may have been slow to react - or for business reasons may be holding back to implement a competing tech).

Take Home Depot, this is what they said last May:

"the retailer said it is "evaluating a number of new payment methods, including a number of mobile payments but have not made any permanent decisions and we cannot confirm whether these technologies are fully supported at this time.""

And judging by your post, it appears they're still evaluating... and even worse they did initially accept NFC payments, but switched it off: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/05/home-depot-quietly-drops-apple-pay/

It's going well in England. We already used contactless cards before Apple pay was a thing. There are still some stores that need to upgrade their PoS terminals, but a lot of the places I frequent now allow contactless payments, and therefore Apple pay too.
 
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Is there a reason why I can't use my US debit card with Apple Pay at a terminal in a different country that doesn't currently accept Apple Pay if that terminal accepts NFC payment like most terminals in basically the rest of the world?

No reason at all, are you able to use your Contactless card instead, perhaps your bank blocked the transaction. It might have something to do with the fact that NFC payments in the United States tend to be based on the older MSD method where as most of the rest of the world use the newer EMV standard. Cards here in the UK in apple pay aren't able to use MSD so don't tend to work in US.
 
And in Germany there is still no sign of it, a market that Apple keeps forgetting. Germany is a main player in Europe, but Apple seems to forget about it all the time.

I bet, in this case it is not Apple's fault, but the bank's. German banks are typically pretty arrogant. (I mean, they just recently started their own paypal competitor. Are they really thinking anybody will start using that, when paypal is already an option for 90% or so of online payments?)
 
Most canadians don't use amex in Canada... There is no apple pay in Canada until MasterCard and Visa decide to change things.

Been using Amex here since Apple Pay launched in Canada and have had no issues. Most of the big retailers have contactless and Amex (Canadian Tire, Rona, Shoppers Drug Mart, Staples etc.). Great thing about Amex is there is no limit. Still laugh when the store assistants gawp when they see me use my Apple Watch. Expansion to the big banks is only a matter of time.
 
I'm in the UK and have been using Apple Pay since I got my iPhone 6s, and I love it :D! Just makes payments so much easier imo. Glad to hear it'll be reaching more countries, albeit slowly.

Yep, It's been as smooth as silk for me here in the UK too. Anywhere that accepts contactless accepts Apple Pay, works first time every time (so far!), just touch and "PING!", off you go.

I guess this is down to the infrastructure already being in place well before Apple Pay came along, and being exactly how it was envisaged to work.

It's a shame to hear the US is having so much trouble, the transition was so easy it was unnoticeable here.
 
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Apple Pay is great, Apple just have to get the problems in different countries sorted. Here in the UK it is widely accepted (I am confident to say it has the BEST coverage in the UK), but at the same time 99.9% of retailers have the 30GBP limit. In the US it seems it is a lack of retailers accepting it, in other countries it is only available to Amex users. And in Germany there is still no sign of it, a market that Apple keeps forgetting. Germany is a main player in Europe, but Apple seems to forget about it all the time.

I'm from the UK but have lived in Germany for the last 10 years. I went back for Christmas, and I was blown away by how cool ApplePay was in London. It's supported on public transport, so I just had to tap my watch when getting on a bus or taking the tube. Went to Pret (oh my God, I miss Pret so much), got a sandwich and coffee, just tapped my watch and it all went fine. We're living in the future.

Launching ApplePay in Germany is going to be hard; the banks won't want to give Apple any cut of sales at all. Apparently Android-Pay doesn't charge the card issuers anything (because your purchases are not private from Google - they will look at what you buy, which has value to them).

TechTimes said:
The resulting scramble made banks and other credit card providers agree to provide Apple with 0.15 percent of the total value of credit card transactions that go through Apple Pay. Transactions using bank debit cards, on the other hand, has Apple collecting a half of a cent per purchase, according to the Wall Street Journal's sources.

$0.005 per purchase isn't actually too bad though, considering the typical transaction costs for the ubiquitous EC-cards. It works out to a maximum of 6.25% (assuming they go with €0.005)

Wikipedia said:
The charge made for an electronic cash transaction depends on the amount of the payment. It is 0.3% of the amount with a minimum of 8 cents.[5] In the oil industry the basic charge is 0.2% of the amount but with a minimum of 4 cents.[6]

Depending on the provider, further charges, e.g. for technical deployment, may be incurred.

According to retailers' terms and conditions, shops have to accept electronic cash payments on the same conditions and at the same prices as with cash. Thus, they have to pay the charges and are not allowed to set a minimum sales amount.
 
It's not Apple's fault that major retailers don't want to give up their data gathering. Besides, Samsung Pay isn't exactly that great from a usability perspective either from what I hear.

This. I was at Wegmans this morning and tried Samsung Pay for the first time. Wegmans even has their NFC turned on so it should've been even easier to use this payment method... What did I get, "card read error" "please stand by." and it never worked.

I've used Apple Pay there many, many times, and it worked flawlessly.
 
Yep, It's been as smooth as silk for me here in the UK too. Anywhere that accepts contactless accepts Apple Pay, works first time every time (so far!), just touch and "PING!", off you go.

Have you not stopped using it yet? I've found the novelty has worn off and I see far fewer people using it now. I work in Shoreditch, though, so I guess I see the coming and going of new fads before most.

It's still not as fast or convenient as tapping a debit card, sadly. And, ultimately, in a country that thrives off politeness and fitting in with the crowd, anyone using Apple Pay looks like a pretentious muppet. Especially at the tube barriers because it's that half-a-second slower than all other NFC cards, which ruins the flow.
 
Don't most people in Germany use cash? I'd imagine the real issue is that there's not much demand from consumers.

No, we use EC cards (basically debit cards). Credit cards are extremely rare; Germans don't like the idea of debt.
 
"establishment of apple pay in France" will NOT be a success story.
They will fail. French banks have established a nearly 100% cover of France by credit cards. French love their credit cards more than other people in europe. BUT there is no real advantage to pay with a smartphone instead of a CC.
As for those not having a credit card - there are also still lots of people paying with checks - and rechargeable bank cards. .
And the French Banks will NEVER share their high incomes generated by their CC system with a new enterprise… you will see: NO NEED for an additional method to pay
 
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Have you not stopped using it yet? I've found the novelty has worn off and I see far fewer people using it now. I work in Shoreditch, though, so I guess I see the coming and going of new fads before most.

No, the opposite, I find myself lamenting the few places that don't accept it, (Tesco, i'm looking at you) and seeking out places that do, to shop. It needs the big supermarkets to lift the £30 limit to make it more useful, but no-one bats an eyelid anymore when you present you're phone for payment.

For me, it's easier and quicker to use my phone than pulling out my wallet and digging out the card.
 
You can't blame Apple for the retailers actions. All of the ones you mention are dragging their toes at adopting contactless payments of any type. My local Target just started to take chip cards after deploying chip card terminals a year ago. There are many that are deploying new terminals but haven't finished the work yet. Others, like WalMart & Sam's Club didn't want Apple Pay to work in the first place.

It honestly boggles my mind that the US is the only country where Apple Pay is fully rolled out and it's also the slowest country to adopt the new payment standards. We can't use Apple Pay in Canada (AMEX aside) and yet nearly every retailer has an NFC terminal. Everywhere that accepts debit has been accepting chip cards for at least the last 8-10 years.

It's crazy to me that in the US there's still so many places that you have to swipe your card, especially with the better alternatives out there.
 
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