Most coffee shops in Sydney support AmEx
Yeah if you call McCafe a 'coffee shop'.
Most coffee shops in Sydney support AmEx
Just relaxLOL I love how you talk as if all shops NEED you...
If they're a good coffee shop then they're already gonna be popular + raking in heaps of money. I doubt they really care when you rock up and say 'one skinny soy chai latte with 3 sugar substitutes' then show them this foreign-looking AMEX card. They're just gonna give you a weird look and say 'SERIOUSLY... if you even have to ask whether we take AMEX, what do you think our answer's gonna be? NEEEEEXT CUSTOMER PLEASE!!' iPhone AAAAND AMEX? Please... that's just about the most awkward combination for any business... 'uuuum... this guy says he's gonna pay with his phone and that it's really an AMEX card... what should I tell him?'
The irony about your self-important 'well they need to give me compelling reasons' argument is that there's absolutely no compelling reason for ANYBODY to use AMEX:
- Lots of local branches in Australia where you can walk in and get awesome service? Nope, none at all.
- Cheaper access fees and interest rates? No.
- Accepted at more places than Visa/Mastercard? No.
- Easier to use when you travel? Absolutely not.
- Massive credit limit with exorbitant interest rates + fees? Sure... great feature feature if you wanna buy lotsa stuff you can't afford on pure credit.
Pretty much any coffee shop in Sydney CBD accepts Amex.Yeah if you call McCafe a 'coffee shop'.
Mmmm adding 5-7% to each purchase (if they allow it - given most shops say NO AMEX) must be amazingly convenient...
ApplePay is infinitely more useful in Australia, Canada, and the UK when cards are loaded into the iPhone than it is here in the U.S. I have every single Amex and Visa card I own linked to ApplePay and almost nowhere to use ApplePay except for fast food joints. And Apple's big news is that Dominos, KFC, Chili's and Cinnabon will be supporting ApplePay soon. Great...even more places to use the technology that my waistline doesn't need.
I don't know if your familiar with the story of Barclays in the UK but they took exactly that approach. Unfortunately it massively backfired as they peed off a lot of their customers by being the only major UK bank to not support Apple Pay. Just search on Twitter for Barclays and Apple Pay and you will see what I mean. Basically it doesn't matter if the banks don't want it. If there is pressure and demand from consumers then they won't really have a choice.
I love living in America. lol![]()
In some US States, it's illegal to impose a surcharge on a credit card. Even then, most places don't impose a surcharge on any credit card at all.
Not to mention most places DO take AMEX cards, but I'm sure you don't pay attention to the window decals on every shop you visit.
Well, Apple does bring much higher level of security! But I guess the banks don't care about ordinary people's benefits that much. Personally I love Apple Pay so much, because it safer and more private.If it can happen in the UK it can happen anywhere![]()
No one here cares. We're talking about Australia here.
Sure there is. I'm infinitely less likely to lose my wallet than it is likely for adhesive to fail stuck to the back of a phone. I fear you missed what I was getting at. I'm not worried about someone yanking the NFC info by being near me. It's that I know that something adhered to my phone is very likely to come off and be lost at some point. Particularly when it sits in a warm pant pocket all day.And as I stated previously there is no greater risk having it on your phone compared to having it on every single card in your wallet, because unlike America, Australia has fully inbraced NFC so much so that it is difficult/ impossible to get a debit/credit card that does not have NFC. Thus the risk is no greater.
Mmmm adding 5-7% to each purchase (if they allow it - given most shops say NO AMEX) must be amazingly convenient...
Sure there is. I'm infinitely less likely to lose my wallet than it is likely for adhesive to fail stuck to the back of a phone. I fear you missed what I was getting at. I'm not worried about someone yanking the NFC info by being near me. It's that I know that something adhered to my phone is very likely to come off and be lost at some point. Particularly when it sits in a warm pant pocket all day.
LOL I love how you talk as if all shops NEED you...
If they're a good coffee shop then they're already gonna be popular + raking in heaps of money. I doubt they really care when you rock up and say 'one skinny soy chai latte with 3 sugar substitutes' then show them this foreign-looking AMEX card. They're just gonna give you a weird look and say 'SERIOUSLY... if you even have to ask whether we take AMEX, what do you think our answer's gonna be? NEEEEEXT CUSTOMER PLEASE!!' iPhone AAAAND AMEX? Please... that's just about the most awkward combination for any business... 'uuuum... this guy says he's gonna pay with his phone and that it's really an AMEX card... what should I tell him?'
The irony about your self-important 'well they need to give me compelling reasons' argument is that there's absolutely no compelling reason for ANYBODY to use AMEX:
I'm quite familiar with NFC chips (yes, I've even seen the stick-on kind) and never used the term "sticker" in anything I've said here. I will just agree to disagree. For me, it's not something I'd be interested in sticking to my phone. For it to be strong enough for me to believe it will stay on, it would be near impossible to remove when I sell or trade my phone. For it to be removable, I still say in the 100+ degree heat we frequently encounter in my neck of the woods, it would often be in danger of coming off on its own while jostling around in my pocket all day.Btw, I've had the NFC chip on my phone for 1.5years and it is as solid as a rock on my phone. It is not a small thin "sticker". You need to actually see one before passing judgement.
I'm quite familiar with NFC chips (yes, I've even seen the stick-on kind) and never used the term "sticker" in anything I've said here. I will just agree to disagree. For me, it's not something I'd be interested in sticking to my phone. For it to be strong enough for me to believe it will stay on, it would be near impossible to remove when I sell or trade my phone. For it to be removable, I still say in the 100+ degree heat we frequently encounter in my neck of the woods, it would often be in danger of coming off on its own while jostling around in my pocket all day.
Lol 100 degrees. I live in the Australian outback. 100 is a cool day.
Do they have NFC terminals in the outback?![]()
We have a Kmart in PA, USA. Actually more than one. I so hate that store. I saw someone (and adult)...I'll say...using the bathroom in the aisle while I was looking for a pair of Dickies. I still have nightmares. lol
Ha. Nice connection you made there. I'm sure someone sh@t in an aisle in your country at some point as well.They have bathrooms in the aisles at KMart in PA? No wonder you love living in America!
Been using it everywhere in Australia for a year - since Applepay started. Hard to find a merchant here in Australia that DOES NOT have a contactless reader. Australia has had this technology for years used with chips on credit cards. So in a sense ApplePay with Ausstralian Amex cards just s a new way to do what Aussies already do.