Apple Pay Launches in Ukraine

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple Pay launched in Ukraine today. Owners of Apple devices in the country this morning found that they could add credit cards to the mobile payment system, including MasterCard and Visa (via Tehnot).

    Ukraine's finance minister Oleksandr Danyliuk took to Facebook to herald the launch, which initially supports cards issued by the country's nationalized PrivatBank, with Oschadbank expected to follow soon.


    During the company's May earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed that Apple Pay would expand to Norway, Poland, and Ukraine "in the next several months", without providing specific launch dates. Separately, a launch in Ukraine was also rumored for Q2 2018.

    The last Apple Pay launch took place in Italy in the middle of May, with users in the country able to add Visa and MasterCards issued by Boon, Carrefour, and UniCredit into their iPhone.

    Over the last few years, Apple has been working to expand Apple Pay to additional countries, and it is now available in the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong, France, Russia, China, Japan, New Zealand, Spain, Taiwan, Ireland, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, UAE, Ukraine, and Brazil.

    (Thanks, Oleksandr!)

    Article Link: Apple Pay Launches in Ukraine
  2. JoshBoy macrumors 6502


    Oct 12, 2008
    Sydney, Australia
    And it’s still not launched at my bank here in Australia. Sucks because we are the highest users of tap payment in the world (unless you are a flat earther and think we don’t exist)
  3. deavy macrumors newbie

    Mar 13, 2013
    Still no official Apple Online or Retail shops here as well as official representatives in Ukraine.
  4. applepuree macrumors 6502


    Aug 15, 2014
    German banks also still blocking it here.
  5. TheralSadurns macrumors 6502a

    Jul 8, 2010

    Are you frickin' kidding me? Like seriously?

    How about... Somalia gets Apple Pay next... then Haiti... and then maybe also Mozambique.

    Germany used to be such a progressive country. Always charging ahead. Inventing cool new stuff and technologies. Being at the forefront of modernity. For centuries!!!
    Now... we cannot even get contact-less digital payments.

    But... I guess the joke is on me... buying an iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch... thinking it's only a matter of a few months until Apple Pay launches in Germany... 4 years later... still AWOL.

    Thank you German banks... and thank you German mentality. Let's just pay everything with CASH. Or use EC/Debit Cards with A SIGNATURE (!!!). Because SIGNATURES are inherently secure!!!!!!!!!

    *slow clap*

  6. Frederik on MacRumors macrumors member

    Frederik on MacRumors

    Oct 7, 2015
    Mandetory “why no Germany?”

    ... I am actually really pisssed. German Banks are annoying!
  7. Ukruser macrumors newbie


    May 17, 2018
    Finally! Great news! This morning I was able to add my card to the Wallet
  8. Rubik macrumors newbie

    Sep 16, 2014
    Berlin, Germany
    Calm down, dude. And get your facts straight. You very well can use contactless payments with your debit and credit card everywhere in Germany. And signatures are becoming rare. If you really can‘t wait for official Apple Pay support you‘re free to use Boon.
  9. alex00100 macrumors 6502

    Mar 17, 2011
    Moscow, Russia
    Wtf man how is it that Germany deserves Apple Pay more than Ukraine or Somalia? If anything Ukrainians have done much more over the last few years to justify being invested money into.
  10. weckart macrumors 601

    Nov 7, 2004
    I like that a bank with that name is actually a publicly owned bank. Caveat emptor.
  11. Janschi macrumors member

    Jul 31, 2013
    Many merchants want the signature for SEPA-ELV, cause ELV is cheaper for them. It's still quiet common.

    Komm runter. I pretty much gave up on support for Apple Pay from German Banks.
    Thankfully my N26 card is supported cause I lived in Spain for some time and needed a new card.
  12. TheralSadurns macrumors 6502a

    Jul 8, 2010
    Facts ARE straight. Contact-less DIGITAL is what I said. Also contact-less credit and debit cards only started popping up last year really. Also support for them was basically non-existant prior to 2017. Signatures ARE becoming more rare, yes. But at least half of the payments still require them. It should be down to ZERO by now. And this should have been mandatory.
    --- Post Merged, May 17, 2018 ---
    It's funny that you'd mention this coming from Moscow. haha.
    I ain't got anything against the Ukraine! This simply has to be put into perspective. For example when Apple launches new products... these are usually only available in 5 countries initially... one of them being Germany.

    And Somalia... well... let's not talk about the validity of possibility of Apple Pay launching there.
  13. itsmilo macrumors 68020


    Sep 15, 2016
    Excuse you. Prince Ahmed has every right to use Apple Pay to spent his Million of dollars he made through honest email donations.

    Really wish german banks would get their ... together. At least I can use my contactless credit card in a lot of places nowadays
  14. Lozza013 macrumors member


    Jun 5, 2017
    Melbourne Australia
    And CBA, Westpac and NAB still want to play stupid games oh boy it's becoming a joke.
  15. makr macrumors regular

    Feb 16, 2016
    Nonsense, you do aware its also up to German banks and regulators to support Apple Pay?
  16. knzVZyxf, May 17, 2018
    Last edited: May 17, 2018

    knzVZyxf macrumors newbie


    Oct 19, 2017

    Germans tend to be cautious with money and finance, I don't think this is a bad thing. While I agree it's frustrating to see Apple Pay launch elsewhere before "here", another part of me cannot blame German banks for trying to protect their long-term interests and resisting Apple a bit. And, as another person commented, there is absolutely no reason why you would DESERVE Apple Pay before someone else in another country!

    I also wonder how Apple Pay will actually work in Germany when it eventually does launch... will it work with EC cards? If not, the whole thing might be a bit useless to the general population as credit/debit cards are so rare here.
  17. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    Can we hurry up and have a good solution for waited service?

    Something along the lines of waitstaff handing me a check, and instead of me handing back my CC, there's just a QR Code. I point my phone at the code, and it pops up saying that such and such wants to charge me $X. Pick a card, authenticate through Touch ID or Face ID or code, then enter a tip amount and leave. Their POS registers the bill as paid.

    I'd really like to just leave my CC behind, but it seems like 90% of the places I eat don't take Apple Pay. Stores seem to be a lot better about taking it.

    Also, why do I still have a physical driver's license? LA (the state) is trying to be the first state to switch to digital driver's license, but their app has been stuck in Apple's App Approval Hell for the last 4 weeks:

    A few other states are talking about moving from physical to digital driver's licenses, but none have done it yet.
  18. Guda.FL macrumors regular


    Sep 23, 2015
    Having it on your phone is a step forward, but retail support has to be there as well. I find myself only using applepay at wallgreens and other retails that i tried did not work or were down such as bestbuy. Unless i just dont shop at the right places.
  19. cltd macrumors member

    May 22, 2014
    It's arrogant to compare Ukraine, Poland and Norway to Somalia or Mozambique. Here in Poland you can pay with contactless card literally everywhere (yesterday I paid for strawberries on street fruit stall); in Germany it's hardly possible.
  20. Guda.FL macrumors regular


    Sep 23, 2015
    That would be superb, quicker exit. I remember too many times when it took longer to check out than to eat my meal.
  21. TheralSadurns macrumors 6502a

    Jul 8, 2010
    Not comparing these.
    Simply going down a list of... mhh how to phrase this... relevance to Apple.

    Like I said... for new products or product categories there are usually 5 countries where these initially launch. After that, Apple expands that list to include an additional Idk 20 countries. And slowly it expands it to even more...

    I simply wanted to go down that list to the VERY END. If anything I compare Germany to said countries... and put it there.
    My statement would have been the exact same for ANY OTHER country that was adding Apple Pay today. To be fair though... virtually all major markets HAVE Apple Pay...
  22. Totemsflare macrumors newbie


    Dec 24, 2017
    Any news about the Netherlands? Bloody hell.
  23. TheralSadurns macrumors 6502a

    Jul 8, 2010

    In unrelated German news of today... the same root issue.
  24. MrRevelation macrumors newbie


    Nov 2, 2012
    Rotterdam, Netherlands
    It’s not Apple, neither is it the bank lobby or the banks. It’s a lack of regulation and vision.
  25. fairuz, May 17, 2018
    Last edited: May 17, 2018

    fairuz macrumors 68000


    Aug 27, 2017
    San Jose and Berkeley, CA
    To be fair, that's kinda how it is in the US too. Banks adopted Apple Pay, but very few places accept it or something similar. In fact, where I live, half my favorite restaurants are cash-only. Some take Venmo but no credit, debit but no credit, credit with a 10-20% fee... argh. It's too hard to agree on a standard, and I carry around 4 forms of payment now, none of which is Apple Pay.

    Tbh hoping Venmo continues taking off. It's easily the best payment system. Anything that requires a significant cost to the vendor is a no-go, which is why WeChat with QR code payments (not NFC) took off in China.
    --- Post Merged, May 17, 2018 ---
    I heard Germany is cautious about tech in general. Aren't your businesses not even allowed to store users' IP addresses, like how every web server does by default?

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