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Are you frickin' kidding me? Like seriously?

How about... Somalia gets Apple Pay next... then Haiti... and then maybe also Mozambique.

Germany used to be such a progressive country. Always charging ahead. Inventing cool new stuff and technologies. Being at the forefront of modernity. For centuries!!!
Now... we cannot even get contact-less digital payments.

But... I guess the joke is on me... buying an iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch... thinking it's only a matter of a few months until Apple Pay launches in Germany... 4 years later... still AWOL.

Thank you German banks... and thank you German mentality. Let's just pay everything with CASH. Or use EC/Debit Cards with A SIGNATURE (!!!). Because SIGNATURES are inherently secure!!!!!!!!!

*slow clap*

</rant>

boon. is viable option for EU, and in my case Outside EU.
 
To be fair, that's kinda how it is in the US too. Banks adopted Apple Pay, but very few places accept it or something similar. In fact, where I live, half my favorite restaurants are cash-only. Some take Venmo but no credit, debit but no credit, credit with a 10-20% fee... argh. It's too hard to agree on a standard, and I carry around 4 forms of payment now, none of which is Apple Pay.

Tbh hoping Venmo continues taking off. It's easily the best payment system. Anything that requires a significant cost to the vendor is a no-go, which is why WeChat with QR code payments (not NFC) took off in China.

IMO, most stores in the US would easily be cash only if they could get away with it; there's that much hatred for the card networks here. I don't think Venmo's going to be what people go with though since it was originally designed as a P2P (not P2B or B2B) money transfer solution.

That said, NFC support has gotten better. There'll be a point where the networks will have to give businesses an incentive, however (likely in the form of significantly lower fees for NFC transactions).
 
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To all of you complaining that Germany still doesn't have it:
Every time I visit Germany I get dodgy looks if I pay something less than 10EUR with card. They just want CASH.
In Poland I pay 0.50EUR chewing gum with NFC debit card. Ukraine is similar.
 
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To all of you complaining that Germany still doesn't have it:
Every time I visit Germany I get dodgy looks if I pay something less than 10EUR with card. They just want CASH.
In Poland I pay 0.50EUR chewing gum with NFC debit card. Ukraine is similar.

Germany is the complete opposite. Cash is indeed king. The first time I went to Germany many years ago, a woman pulled out a DM500 note to pay for a 30pf battery. The shop assistant didn't bat an eyelid. She would not have got away with that in the UK.
 
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IMO, most stores in the US would easily be cash only if they could get away with it; there's that much hatred for the card networks here. I don't think Venmo's going to be what people go with though since it was originally designed as a P2P (not P2B or B2B) money transfer solution.

That said, NFC support has gotten better. There'll be a point where the networks will have to give businesses an incentive, however (likely in the form of significantly lower fees for NFC transactions).
Venmo has business payments but needs to polish them a bit more. I'm hoping they do. I've only used it once, for paying for a haircut, and it was nice but could've been improved in obvious ways.

I can see why they hate the card networks. Some smaller stores do accept card, but I use cash anyway. I think card is "convenient enough" that Apple Pay etc aren't any better in that way, but the overhead is a problem for small or low-margin businesses.
 
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Apple Pay launched in Ukraine today. Owners of Apple devices in the country this morning found that they could add credit cards to the mobile payment system, including MasterCard and Visa (via Tehnot).

Ukraine's finance minister Oleksandr Danyliuk took to Facebook to herald the launch, which initially supports cards issued by the country's nationalized PrivatBank, with Oschadbank expected to follow soon.

Ukrain-apple-pay.jpeg


During the company's May earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed that Apple Pay would expand to Norway, Poland, and Ukraine "in the next several months", without providing specific launch dates. Separately, a launch in Ukraine was also rumored for Q2 2018.

The last Apple Pay launch took place in Italy in the middle of May, with users in the country able to add Visa and MasterCards issued by Boon, Carrefour, and UniCredit into their iPhone.

Over the last few years, Apple has been working to expand Apple Pay to additional countries, and it is now available in the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong, France, Russia, China, Japan, New Zealand, Spain, Taiwan, Ireland, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, UAE, Ukraine, and Brazil.

(Thanks, Oleksandr!)

Article Link: Apple Pay Launches in Ukraine
Wonderful news! Already got it setup! What about Apple Pay Cash?
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Apple Pay launched in Ukraine today. Owners of Apple devices in the country this morning found that they could add credit cards to the mobile payment system, including MasterCard and Visa (via Tehnot).

Ukraine's finance minister Oleksandr Danyliuk took to Facebook to herald the launch, which initially supports cards issued by the country's nationalized PrivatBank, with Oschadbank expected to follow soon.

Ukrain-apple-pay.jpeg


During the company's May earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed that Apple Pay would expand to Norway, Poland, and Ukraine "in the next several months", without providing specific launch dates. Separately, a launch in Ukraine was also rumored for Q2 2018.

The last Apple Pay launch took place in Italy in the middle of May, with users in the country able to add Visa and MasterCards issued by Boon, Carrefour, and UniCredit into their iPhone.

Over the last few years, Apple has been working to expand Apple Pay to additional countries, and it is now available in the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong, France, Russia, China, Japan, New Zealand, Spain, Taiwan, Ireland, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, UAE, Ukraine, and Brazil.

(Thanks, Oleksandr!)

Article Link: Apple Pay Launches in Ukraine
Wonderful news! Already got it setup! What about Apple Pay Cash?
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<rant>

Are you frickin' kidding me? Like seriously?

How about... Somalia gets Apple Pay next... then Haiti... and then maybe also Mozambique.

Germany used to be such a progressive country. Always charging ahead. Inventing cool new stuff and technologies. Being at the forefront of modernity. For centuries!!!
Now... we cannot even get contact-less digital payments.

But... I guess the joke is on me... buying an iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch... thinking it's only a matter of a few months until Apple Pay launches in Germany... 4 years later... still AWOL.

Thank you German banks... and thank you German mentality. Let's just pay everything with CASH. Or use EC/Debit Cards with A SIGNATURE (!!!). Because SIGNATURES are inherently secure!!!!!!!!!

*slow clap*

</rant>
<rant>

Are you frickin' kidding me? Like seriously?

How about... Somalia gets Apple Pay next... then Haiti... and then maybe also Mozambique.

Germany used to be such a progressive country. Always charging ahead. Inventing cool new stuff and technologies. Being at the forefront of modernity. For centuries!!!
Now... we cannot even get contact-less digital payments.

But... I guess the joke is on me... buying an iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch... thinking it's only a matter of a few months until Apple Pay launches in Germany... 4 years later... still AWOL.

Thank you German banks... and thank you German mentality. Let's just pay everything with CASH. Or use EC/Debit Cards with A SIGNATURE (!!!). Because SIGNATURES are inherently secure!!!!!!!!!

*slow clap*

</rant>
What do Somalia, Haiti and Zimbabwe have to do with Apple Pay being launched in Ukraine? Are you comparing Ukraine to those aforementioned countries? If you’re pissed off, you better take it to your local authorities responsible for the regulatory measures preventing Apple Pay to come in.
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Still no official Apple Online or Retail shops here as well as official representatives in Ukraine.
That’s why I had to buy my iPhone X at almost $1300 here in Kyiv. This is a big market for Apple and I can’t apprehend why we still don’t have them here.
 



Apple Pay launched in Ukraine today. Owners of Apple devices in the country this morning found that they could add credit cards to the mobile payment system, including MasterCard and Visa (via Tehnot).

Ukraine's finance minister Oleksandr Danyliuk took to Facebook to herald the launch, which initially supports cards issued by the country's nationalized PrivatBank, with Oschadbank expected to follow soon.

Ukrain-apple-pay.jpeg


During the company's May earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook revealed that Apple Pay would expand to Norway, Poland, and Ukraine "in the next several months", without providing specific launch dates. Separately, a launch in Ukraine was also rumored for Q2 2018.

The last Apple Pay launch took place in Italy in the middle of May, with users in the country able to add Visa and MasterCards issued by Boon, Carrefour, and UniCredit into their iPhone.

Over the last few years, Apple has been working to expand Apple Pay to additional countries, and it is now available in the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong, France, Russia, China, Japan, New Zealand, Spain, Taiwan, Ireland, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, UAE, Ukraine, and Brazil.

(Thanks, Oleksandr!)

Article Link: Apple Pay Launches in Ukraine
[doublepost=1526634209][/doublepost]Ukraine's finance minister Oleksandr Danyliuk took to Facebook to herald the launch


(Thanks, Oleksandr!)


MACRumors got tipped by Ukraine's finance minister
 
Mandetory “why no Germany?”

... I am actually really pisssed. German Banks are annoying!

Just use Boon. Takes you 20 minutes. I should have done this years before. Just paid 3 buns in denmark with my Apple watch in 3 seconds. Beep and done. Works in Germany in every contactless credit card terminal.
 
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