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Nope, though Maestro belongs to MasterCard, there are MasterCard-branded debit cards.

Here in the U.K. We used to have the Switch Debit card scheme (RBS, NatWest, HSBC amongst others) which latterly became Maestro U.K. Debit cards.

Since then many of them have transferred over to Visa Debit cards and until quite recently Yorkshire Bank (am sure there are others) remained as Maestro Debit cards before being reissued as MasterCard Debit cards.

AFAIK no financial institution now offers a Maestro Debit card here in the U.K.
 
I changed bank for Apple Pay in less than a second.
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Boon from french app store? You have to top it up by bank transfer, because non french cards can't be used.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but Average Joe in Germany won't do it to the point that it makes banks shiver not to be on board at less than optimal conditions.

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Nope, though Maestro belongs to MasterCard, there are MasterCard-branded debit cards.
No, Maestro is owned by MasterCard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestro_(debit_card)

Germany is irrelevant in cases like this. Tech lazy.
Cases like what?

Apple has to negotiate the terms with every bank individually and the market they want to enter dictates a lot how they will go about their negotiations.

The current topic at hand is specifically Apple entering Germany, unless you generally mean that Germans generally don't care and hence Apple doesn't like its weaker position at the table so they are fine stretching it out playing the waiting game until the hype gets bigger. (because right now it can only go up)

With latter I'd certainly agree.

As for tech lazy, well that's just partially true, do you live here? Travel here often?

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Dear oh dear, what a Tantrum,
I travel all over Germany (and even into Bavaria when necessary) & all over the World for business, & like every other Country I have visited, older people don't like change, but otherwise people mostly embrace new technology. The only thing that usually holds them back having it is, in the poorer countries, they of course simply cannot afford the "latest thing". But they still want it.
Germany & Germans are just the same IMHO.


Now that is the thing... if Germany WAS a poor country... but it isn't.

Like you... I also travel around (mostly Europe) a lot. But I actually AM German and I live in Germany.
And sadly... there is simply NO comparison between... say... Germany and the UK.
Whatever is already big and en vogue in the world of technology... Germans take approx. 5 more years to embrace it.
 
**** Germany and **** Germans with their backwards attitudes ALL THE ****ING TIME.

Whenever something... anything really... is NEW they immediately HATE it and dismiss it as nonsense. People who use such things are ridiculed on top of everything else.

Smartphones? HAHAHAHA NO ONE needs **** like this... SOOOO useless...
Meanwhile people in all other countries start using them.
5 years later... all of a sudden... smartphones are great in Germany too... and nobody even remembers dismissing them.

Same with tablets...

Non-cash payments...

Electric cars...

The list goes on and on.

I am so fed up with the people here...
Sounds just like Macrumors half the time
 
**** Germany and **** Germans with their backwards attitudes ALL THE ****ING TIME.

Whenever something... anything really... is NEW they immediately HATE it and dismiss it as nonsense. People who use such things are ridiculed on top of everything else.

Smartphones? HAHAHAHA NO ONE needs **** like this... SOOOO useless...
Meanwhile people in all other countries start using them.
5 years later... all of a sudden... smartphones are great in Germany too... and nobody even remembers dismissing them.

Same with tablets...

Non-cash payments...

Electric cars...

The list goes on and on.

I am so fed up with the people here...

Dude, where do you live? I have never heard something like that. Germany is a very innovative country, although it depends what you talk about. Mobile phones? Were taking off slowly in the late 80ies. Smartphones? Took off like a rocket! Mobile payments? Talk to young people who pay with cards only. Talk to the 50+ and they would love the have the D-Mark back! :) And electric cars? Well germans love fast cars with power, so lets take another look in 5 to 10 years. :)
 
Dude, where do you live? I have never heard something like that. Germany is a very innovative country, although it depends what you talk about. Mobile phones? Were taking off slowly in the late 80ies. Smartphones? Took off like a rocket! Mobile payments? Talk to young people who pay with cards only. Talk to the 50+ and they would love the have the D-Mark back! :) And electric cars? Well germans love fast cars with power, so lets take another look in 5 to 10 years. :)

Young people? In countries like Denmark and Sweden every ****ing body use cards as a minimum. Many use some kind of app with digital receipts. I visit Denmark often and i have seen people use cash very few times. Kids have cards there, very old people in electric wheelchairs have and use cards. In Denmark you can pay with card for your hot dog at a hot dong stand.
 
Now that is the thing... if Germany WAS a poor country... but it isn't.

Like you... I also travel around (mostly Europe) a lot. But I actually AM German and I live in Germany.
And sadly... there is simply NO comparison between... say... Germany and the UK.
Whatever is already big and en vogue in the world of technology... Germans take approx. 5 more years to embrace it.
Well..
Admittedly I'm not German, but I do live in Germany & have done for 18 years now, and I wasn't making any comparison with the UK as I haven't lived there for a lot longer than that. I was drawing on my own observations during that time.
'fraid we'll have to agree to disagree! :)
 
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Admittedly I'm not German, but I do live in Germany & have done for 18 years now, and I wasn't making any comparison with the UK as I haven't lived there for a lot longer than that. I was drawing on my own observations during that time.
'fraid we'll have to agree to disagree! :)
Facts, luckily, don't care if you agree or not, and you don't have to live somewhere 18 years to have a very good picture of something like state of banks and payments.
 
How so? I mean, I can see some QR code based system eventually coming out on top in the US (for a bunch of reasons) but I'm not sure if there's something like that in Germany.
Credit and debit cards are already on top. I just FaceTime'd with my parents. They went out for lunch in Santa Monica, CA but forgot their wallets, and I watched them walk around, unable to find anything that accepted mobile payments.

I can't see QR code systems taking over. Even Apple Pay is just barely easier than plastic, assuming the cashier knows how to use it and nothing goes wrong. And never in my life have I seen someone use mobile payments here.
 
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Young people? In countries like Denmark and Sweden every ****ing body use cards as a minimum. Many use some kind of app with digital receipts. I visit Denmark often and i have seen people use cash very few times. Kids have cards there, very old people in electric wheelchairs have and use cards. In Denmark you can pay with card for your hot dog at a hot dong stand.

I pay my 80 Cents Pretzel with my NFC Visa Card in Germany and nobody gives me a strage look.
 



Apple is "working rapidly" to expand Apple Pay to additional countries in Asia and Europe, and there's increasing evidence and reports that suggest the service may launch in Italy and Germany in the near future.

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Apple recently updated its Apple Pay participating banks and card issuers in Asia-Pacific support document with a new image of Europe that has Italy highlighted. The change isn't visible on the United States or Europe versions of the page, suggesting that it may have been added to the Asia-Pacific page prematurely.

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MacRumors discovered a colored version of the image stored on Apple's servers that makes it easier to see Italy highlighted.

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Apple's regional Italian website has listed Apple Pay as "coming soon" since March, so it's only a matter of time--WWDC?--before the payments service launches in the country. At launch, Apple Pay will work with Visa and MasterCard in Italy through participating banks UniCredit, Boon, and Carrefour Banca.

Meanwhile, German blog iPhone-Ticker reports that Apple Pay should launch in Germany in the fall or winter. As in some other countries, however, the negotiations between Apple and German banks allegedly continue to be challenging, likely as both sides struggle to reach an agreement over fees and control.

Last October, Germany was similarly highlighted on the Apple Pay availability map, but only for a brief period of time.

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Apple Pay launched in the United States in October 2014, and it has since expanded to 14 other countries and regions: Australia, Canada, China, France, Hong Kong, Ireland, Japan, New Zealand, Russia, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, and the United Kingdom. There was also a rumor that Belgium could be added this month.

Article Link: Apple Pay Negotiations Still Ongoing in Germany as Hints of Pending Italian Launch Increase
[doublepost=1496837324][/doublepost]Still amazes me why not in Poland, yet. We have better infrastructure than Germany and society oftern uses credit cards than in Germany. It's hard to believe but it's a fact.
Apple did big mistake introducing Pay first in the States where infrastructure wasn't ready for that, but they wanted to do this for marketing reasons.

This is double annoying and both funny where you go to Starbucks and see only "Android Pay" :>
 
The screenshot with Frankfurt is back. I hope, this is a hint.
https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT201469

Nice find!
Man, I've been waiting for Apple Pay since the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch announcement. And I'm actually still rocking said devices... WITHOUT Apple Pay. Stupid Germans and stupid German banks.

"Nah, we just handle everything cash!" "Credit Cards? Nah, only direct debit cards!"
 
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Man, I've been waiting for Apple Pay since the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch announcement. And I'm actually still rocking said devices... WITHOUT Apple Pay. Stupid Germans and stupid German banks.

"Nah, we just handle everything cash!" "Credit Cards? Nah, only direct debit cards!"
Same here!
 
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