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How the card's authorized has nothing to do with the payment method. It is totally possible for transactions to be authorized offline contactless and submitted at a later date, for instance.

My understanding is the United States has a zero floor limit now, as a consequence of Dodd-Frank. Because you can make the bank deny overdrafts caused by debit cards, and due to the prevalence of prepaid cards, the merchant must perform an authorization with the transaction amount or else they will be liable if the transaction doesn't settle. Only very specific merchants, like transit systems, are exempt.
 
You should see the wow look when I use my watch to make a payment. It's like we are in 1999 in podunk pa.
 
It took a lot longer to reach this point than I expected.

Still waiting on Walmart, Home Depot, Gas Stations and restaurants to start taking Apple Pay so I can stop carrying my credit card everywhere with me... but at least all the grocery stores seem to be on board now (I'm amazed Market Basket takes it - I swore hell would freeze over before Market Basket would take Apple Pay.)

At least BJs brewery and grill restaurant allows you to pay for your bill with their online app which in turn accepts Apple Pay. It was nice since I could leave a tip and never give my card to the waiter.
 
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My understanding is the United States has a zero floor limit now, as a consequence of Dodd-Frank. Because you can make the bank deny overdrafts caused by debit cards, and due to the prevalence of prepaid cards, the merchant must perform an authorization with the transaction amount or else they will be liable if the transaction doesn't settle. Only very specific merchants, like transit systems, are exempt.

I wasn't implying in my previous comment that the US did offline authorization, actually. Far from it. (In fact, the US has been 100% online authorization even before Dodd-Frank.)

Some countries, however, do allow offline authorization of contactless payments. It's actually a big reason why they're so popular in the UK, for instance.
 
The problem is, most cashiers don't know that NFC payments are supported. Or, the machine is kept behind the counter, and they ask for your credit card to swipe it. Then there's all the times were the NFC part doesn't work randomly, and so you're stuck swiping were inserting the trip.There needs to be a lot more training at these retailers to update their staff. Hell, even at McDonald's, which was supposed to have Apple Pay since forever, I find that some of the staff are constantly shocked/surprised. The drive-through is even more of a pain, because they have to take out the credit card reader machine, and show it to me. Almost makes it easier to get my fat ass out of the car and walk inside the store
I don't want the cashiers putting their disgusting hands on my credit/debit card. Just get out of the way and let me pay.
 
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Wasn't Samsung Pay designed with LoopPay technology and works almost anywhere? Thereby making it higher %?

Yes, Samsung Pay fools the magnetic reader into believing the phone is a standard non NFC card. Obviously also works with NFC too, so Samsung Pay is a clear winner here.

But we live in a post facts, post truth world ;-)
 
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Blame the retailers; chip can actually be close to the same speed as swiping if desired. I mean, Walgreens was able to do it no problem.
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Safeway and Kroger still aren't, unfortunately. On the other hand, a Grocery Outlet just opened across the street from Vons and they take AP. :cool:

As for restaurants, I really don't see them accepting it. The chip-enabled ones I've been to still take cards away from tables, making Apple Pay impossible.

Really wish our restaurants would catch up to everyone else.
 
As for restaurants, I really don't see them accepting it. The chip-enabled ones I've been to still take cards away from tables, making Apple Pay impossible.
Give them time. Six years ago in Toronto restaurant servers brought portable card terminals to the table for me to swipe & sign. My card never left my possession. With the same size terminals now accepting Apple Pay there's no technical barrier to adoption.
 
I especially like the horrid error tone that plays to tell you to remove your card after a successful transition.
Would have been much better if it made a "cha-ching!" noise, or the sound of pennies dropping into a slot machine.
On many of the Verifone models, the sound is just a WAV file that is capable of being changed.

At a RiteAid near me, they've replaced the stock "error tone" at the end of the transaction with a WAV of a lady instructing you to remove your card.
 
pretty much 99% of the places that accept money in New England don't support it, nor have most of them even heard of it. Forget about any non-chain store having it.
I've been pleasantly surprised with some independent places taking Apple Pay around Atlanta. Liquor store, a couple mexican restaurants (pay at the register type places), office building cafe.

Quiktrip takes it indoors now, pumps will be a few months or so. Chick-fil-A surprised me, I thought they were pushing their own thing, but they take it. Sprouts and Trader Joes both take it, as does Pep Boys. Still not at Publix or Kroger though.

I virtually never go to Walmart and also virtually never use a drive-through, so they've not been a concern.

As to the register drivers -- I generally just tell them credit if they don't figure it out by the image of a credit card displaying on my Apple Watch. :D
 
Give them time. Six years ago in Toronto restaurant servers brought portable card terminals to the table for me to swipe & sign. My card never left my possession. With the same size terminals now accepting Apple Pay there's no technical barrier to adoption.

Eh, I've actually been to enough chip enabled restaurants that I have a good idea how most will go. Here's how one restaurant I went to recently set up their wired terminal:

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As what our great president with the funky hair may say, this is "fake news" and we may really take "alternative facts" into account. Survey is completely false. Samsung Pay should really be on top of the list as it is accepted at practically most terminals
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Yes it works just about everywhere.
Yeah, I really don't know how this survey was conducted.
 
I have contactless cards and those don't work at CVS either.
The last time I tried one there (not ApplePay - a real CL card) it worked, but it has been a while since I tried. It's conceivable that either they have turned CL off since I tried or there's a difference between your CVS and mine.
 
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