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.....also...I've reported issues with Google maps (occasionally) and had a response and corrections and updates with hours....I've repeatedly and often reported issues with Apple Maps and i have never had a response or an update or a correction from Apple.....an absolute disgraceful shambles.
 
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At most you're making $16.20/hour and that's not compensating for gas. Driving wouldn't be necessary in large cities... but then I would imagine there would be more people doing this as a freelancing job... So potentially less for you to do? Either way, it is pretty low wage.

Actually, the maximum hourly rate you could achieve should technically be $324 if you could somehow manage to fulfill all 600 of your allowed tasks in one hour or less. That won't ever happen of course, but you probably will find some people who manage to do considerably better than $16.20/hour. If you're really efficient and you do the max of all 600 in 10 hours, you'll do $32.40/hr. That'll be a pretty respectable side gig in most places.

That said, I'd agree that in reality, this is likely a fairly low paying gig and isn't a very attractive job option for people with upper end talent.
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.....also...I've reported issues with Google maps (occasionally) and had a response and corrections and updates with hours....I've repeatedly and often reported issues with Apple Maps and i have never had a response or an update or a correction from Apple.....an absolute disgraceful shambles.

It might be because I live in Apple's back yard, but I've fairly good experiences with Apple Maps. I've gone back and forth between Apple Maps and Google Maps in the past because they kept taking turns giving me bad directions. For any routes that I don't have any familiarity with, I often will look at both because I'm not always sure if I can trust either.

BTW, one of my favorite Apple Maps/Siri driving instructions that I've ever received was, "Take a U turn and then take another U turn."
 
Why not give out iTunes credits or something to actual users who are already walking around these cities who want to sign up and help?
 
Apple can try all it wants but google maps puts it to shame. As long as Apple continues to not use google with siri, maps, or other, it will always be somewhat of a compromise. Then again, apple maps, siri, isn't why you buy an iphone.

I know I am in the minority here, but there are a few areas I find Maps to be better than Google Maps.

1) Maps is not a Google product.
As one who has worked with Google in the past, I know for a fact that they can (and do) track your location within 3 feet, if you so much as have any Google app installed on your device. Doesn't even have to be running. Installed. Boo that.

2) There is no 2. Kidding.
2) Maps offers more seamless iOS and macOS integration.
This is what keeps me using Maps. It works so well across my established Mac ecosystem, that I can tolerate the occasional inaccuracy. On that topic, I have not been mislead by Maps in over a year now. Clearly Apple's effort on Maps has proven effective (for me).

3) Maps offers a superior UX.
As a some time Lyft driver, I'm forced to use either Waze (unusable UX whilst driving) or Google Maps (only slightly better) for turn x turn directions. Google Maps does not offer near enough optical contrast or heirarchy to quickly decipher graphic elements and/or copy. Font, color and contrast are three areas that could use some serious attention.

Obviously, YMMV.
 
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Maps is still a **** show and will be for the foreseeable future. I look up something and it's either not there or it's in another state. Why would I want something in another state, why not list it by nearest to me "location srvices"? I look it up in Google maps, finds it immediately.

Apple has a long way to go.
 
Exactly. Apple hardware + other folks service's is how we roll in my family.
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What part of his "I've submitted requests to fix it but it hasn't helped any thus far." isn't clear enough to understand that he has?
I've submitted several wrong loc locally shops pubs restaurants etc and I must say got notice back one within two weeks and several within 9 days pretty good I say google isn't always correct either
 
Actually, the maximum hourly rate you could achieve should technically be $324 if you could somehow manage to fulfill all 600 of your allowed tasks in one hour or less. That won't ever happen of course, but you probably will find some people who manage to do considerably better than $16.20/hour. If you're really efficient and you do the max of all 600 in 10 hours, you'll do $32.40/hr. That'll be a pretty respectable side gig in most places.

That said, I'd agree that in reality, this is likely a fairly low paying gig and isn't a very attractive job option for people with upper end talent.
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It might be because I live in Apple's back yard, but I've fairly good experiences with Apple Maps. I've gone back and forth between Apple Maps and Google Maps in the past because they kept taking turns giving me bad directions. For any routes that I don't have any familiarity with, I often will look at both because I'm not always sure if I can trust either.

BTW, one of my favorite Apple Maps/Siri driving instructions that I've ever received was, "Take a U turn and then take another U turn."

Yes, from what I've read it's great if you live in a few certain places. The rest of the world....not so much. At one point a city I know, according to Apple Maps, only had 9 pubs. It's improved at tiny bit, but not much.
 
Capped at $324/week...minus $40 for gas. That'll get people motivated to improve Apple Maps.
What's the gas for? It doesn't sound like they are driving around, as it says the average task only takes 2 minutes.
 
I'm in western Canada and I keep trying both Apple and Google maps but over the last 6 months I've come to the conclusion that I will now only use Google Maps and have since removed Apple maps from my iPhone.

Updates are always timely on Google maps - I've had about a 50% success rate at getting an issue fixed in Apple maps after I've submitted the error report, and when it comes it's quite a bit later than when the fix appears in Google maps.
Traffic data in this part of the country is almost always non-existent on Apple maps - excellent on Google maps.
Bike routes on Google maps are great to find trails around my city - nothing on Apple Maps.
One finger zoom is fantastic on Google maps.
Offline areas is great for when we go off the beaten path.
Street view is surprisingly helpful when trying to find places in unfamiliar locations.

Sadly, I don't see Apple maps ever catching up to Google. Even just looking at it from traffic data POV, there are just that many more Androids out there feeding traffic data into Google maps - how exactly is Apple supposed to compete on that front?

My only wish/hope is that Apple will eventually realize that iPhone users are having to put up with a compromised mapping experience and maybe allow Google maps to be set as default for things like CarPlay and address links etc... One can hope.
 
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i was thinking.....yah 20 cents huh? the standard milage payment is MORE then that.... *facepalm
20 cts?
Gee man, Apple is the first I will contact if I can't find a better job (currently I am licking envelopes...)
This really shows what kind of woodpeckers run the company (if true)
6000 Indian engineers packed in some building were to solve the problem half a year ago (or was that just a TC spin to lick himself in at the Indian government?) and now this ludicrous nonsense. You must have a mental disorder too fancy this half-backed kind of crowd-sourcing without QC.
Who would check a freelancers' findings (without getting entangled into 1way streets/ pools/ fishponds or end up somewhere in the Chinese Sea...), how to administer contributions/ limitations/ misuse etc. etc. this is going to introduce more problems than it solves
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I wonder the same thing. I'm not being snarky. Really. Apple has 116,000 employees (October 2016; per Wikipedia). Subtract the retail employees and you still have a TON of workers. I see those crazy numbers and I wonder how Apple isn't able to juggle the iPhone line, Mac line, and iPad line simultaneously.
On average, it might take 50k+ people to find out what J. Ive is doing all day...
 
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I've often seen it telling me to go right when it's actually left and vice-verse. I've also seen it pointing me towards banks that are long gone and nowhere to be seen. It does look like they're trying hard though...
 
At the same time, the bugs I report to them about their Map or navigation, with very detailed information, asking for no payments from them at all, stay not-fixed after over 3 years!
 
I know I am in the minority here, but there are a few areas I find Maps to be better than Google Maps.
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2) Maps offers more seamless iOS and macOS integration.

I find using Siri with Apple Maps to get directions to be a better user experience than getting audio instructions from Google Maps. Whenever I use Google Maps to do audio turn by turn instructions, I find myself wanting to tell it to shut up. It just talks way too much. It talks to the point that I feel like it's in the backseat complaining about my driving.
 
I did submit a ticket/report to them months ago and over a year ago before that I think. I included screenshots of where I was (blue location dot) and where the map pinned the address. I also added a screenshot of Google Maps with the exact same address pasted in the search bar with the pin right on top of my location showing that it is correct. I just never heard back.

I can always try again, but I don't bother since I don't use the service to begin with. :rolleyes:
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Right! Though I have found out you can set one on the Apple watch and it can run independently from the one on the iPhone. I usually end up using my phone and our Google Home to use for timers. Other than you know, the actual oven timer but who uses that?

Use Reminders instead of Clock: “Remind me about X in 15 minutes” “Remind me about Y in 5 minutes”, instead of “Set a 15 minute timer”. Added bonus you can snooze the reminder if it needs to cook for a bit longer.
 
I have submitted multiple updates for free. I am not sure if any have been addressed or not.
 
I just need Apple to let me use Google Maps, or whatever, as my default routing app. Problem solved and they don't have to pay anyone anything. Thanks for making me CEO.
 
I want better watch directions. I've used google maps on an android wear watch after the moto 360 came out and it was slightly slower than the apple watch directions but always more accurate. The apple watch experience is really good from the subtle vibrations indicating left or right and the speed of the updates but the accuracy is not reliable for me. Multiple times mess up left or right directions or not recognize multiple entrances that a large building like a hotel might have.
 
Heck, it doesn't even get my home address right. I'll be sitting on the couch and it always says I'm 5 minutes to home on the destinations widget. I disabled it because of that. Whereas Google Maps is spot on to our mailbox.

When people need directions to the house I always tell them not to use Apple Maps. Or go by landmarks.

This is in Kansas too, nothing special. The address just shows up nearly a mile away from where it actually is. I've submitted requests to fix it but it hasn't helped any thus far. So no surprise with this.


Google gave a pretty sweet presentation about how they fix their data sets using street view data. Most street signs give an address range and the default assumption is you should evenly distribute the known addresses across the range for each block. For instance the sign for my street states below the name that it's the 3300 block. If I'm 3300 you would stick me right by the sign. If I'm 3350 you'd stick me 1/2 way between that sign the 3400 sign, but that might not be reality. Google fixes this with the street view data. They're doing OCR on the address numbers on the side of your house and having people confirm their OCR with recaptcha.com. With that they can stick 3350 in the exact right place and not a guess based on the street sign ranges.
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We never heard bad things about Tom Tom's data in their own GPS devices... did we?

I just wonder why early Apple Maps was so bad.

There used to be two Walmarts listed in my town on Apple Maps... yet there is only one. I don't know where Apple got that info. There isn't a document on Earth that has, or ever had, a Walmart listed at that address.

That's the kinda stuff that confuses me.

If you fire up maps and report bad data or missing businesses they usually fix it in less than week. I've reported a ton in a small vacation town here in Oregon. They accepted all the corrections.
 
Apple needs to pay for much more full time staff, and stop being a cheapskate.
Maps and Siri require lots more people working full-time to improve it and even keep it up to date.
This is the main reason why Apple Maps and Siri are lagging so far behind.
 
If you fire up maps and report bad data or missing businesses they usually fix it in less than week. I've reported a ton in a small vacation town here in Oregon. They accepted all the corrections.

Of course.

I was just wondering how Apple got that wrong address in the first place.

They got the correct Walmart... but then they had another (wrong) Walmart just down the road. :)

How does that happen?

I'm not even mad... that's amazing! :D
 
Of course.

I was just wondering how Apple got that wrong address in the first place.

They got the correct Walmart... but then they had another (wrong) Walmart just down the road. :)

How does that happen?

I'm not even mad... that's amazing! :D

Bad data sources. They're pulling from a few random sources including Yelp and sometimes those sources are just made up.
 
I've said since I started using Apple Maps in its beta, that it gets a bad rap. I travel all over the country, and it rarely lets me down directions wise. I used Google Maps before AM came out, and I don't see a difference in accuracy. I'm not saying that GM isn't better in places, but in some places AM is better. I think some people have issues like one poster whose given up on AM because his house location is off by a mile, but they don't stop and think, hey I'm one of 7 billion people, so statistically there will always be people whose house is off by a mile. On GM and on AM, just get it corrected.

GM does seem to have the edge on location data, which isn't a big deal to me, but I'm sure it is why a lot of people use GM over AM on an iPhone. But for me, I like the Hey Siri, take me home feature a lot more.

If you step back and think about it, both AM and GM are impressive apps and both have room to improve. But I do not think one is far superior to the other overall.
I completely agree especially now that Apple Maps uses Yelp. We have a shopping center that just got built and opened and it's already on Apple Maps. Google can't find the new shops. It really depends on how many people are updating the info in each Maps database. This is businesses and users mostly.

Also, in my limited experience updating Apple Maps takes 12 hours. Google was a week. They updated the issues each time I found an error within that timeframe. Not sure why everyone else is having major issues.
 
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"In an effort to improve Apple Maps, which many iPhone users still consider to be inferior to Google Maps"

Umm....there is no "Considering" Google Maps to be better, it absolutely is better in every single way. If you don't think so, take a drive through Kansas City using Apple Maps on CarPlay vs another drive with Google Maps on Android Auto using turn by turn directions in each. Apple Maps has a long way to go to even be close.
 
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