That's what we need! Not an "iTablet", we need "iGoggles"/"iGlasses". Augmented reality display in your glasses, ear-buds dangling from the arms of the glasses, finger-tip recognition for manipulation (like the MIT media lab UI experiment), and proximity sensors along the arms and band of the glasses.
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That's what we need! Not an "iTablet", we need "iGoggles"/"iGlasses". Augmented reality display in your glasses, ear-buds dangling from the arms of the glasses, finger-tip recognition for manipulation (like the MIT media lab UI experiment), and proximity sensors along the arms and band of the glasses.
On an iphone, yes you do, I can't recall how many times I sworn about having to quit my radio-app just to answer a text, maybe using streaming apps constantly isn't ordinary in the US due to crappy 3G-reception it is in europe, spotify and similar apps are used by most ppl with iphones and androids.
If iphone OS 4.0 isn't featuring a mutitasking ability, I'm prolly gonna have to rethink me getting a new iphone this summer.
Exactly! And if they sell this thing at <$600 then why would people buy the iPhone? I would go with a dummy phone and an iSlate. Apple would cannibalize their own market. One which they basically created
- - and to think that my attention has been somewhat veering to netbook form factor type products ! no, seriously DESPITE already owning an Air + iPhone, if this thing is 'right' and is powerful enough and displays correctly including the 'correct' UI then we could be looking at another market changer... agreed ?
No. Unlike the case with iPod and iPhone where the market did exist. The market for tablets does not exist so there is nothing to change. Unless this device is a replacement for eBook readers.
Music playback is hardly multi"tasking". The iPhone already is capable of playing music while you do something else, it's just not available for 3rd party apps.
Playing music in the background is a very specific task, and the iPhone has specific controls to manage it in the background (even a headphone "remote"). I wouldn't deduce a general need or desire for multitasking from this specific example. It just points to the need for better access to the multimedia APIs.
Of course, anybody can want multitasking on a phone, but I stand by the point that it is a reasonable (in my eyes beneficial) design choice to omit it for simplicity and performance.
Now if the iSlate has enough screen to keep displaying a "dock" then multitasking can be implemented in a transparent way and given enough computing resources might offer some benefits.
10" device is not something one would carry everywhere, so I am not sure your solution will work for many. It's possible that most people will simply stick wiht a phone and a laptop which covers all the needs.
It's true. However it might be even more difficult to deal with a flat tablet because the requirements for the angle for keyboard and for viewing are fundamentally different. Flat tablet would not be suitable for anyting involving significant amount of typing.
Now that is a totally flawed logic. Unless we are talking about battery life there is absolutely no benefits in not having a multitasking. Those striving for simplicity could simply not use the multitasking (although I can hardly believe they would behave this way). It smacks of Apple apologetics.
Typing is not the same as touching. I doubt that the primary input method on any apple tablet would be an iphone style keyboard (though I imagine one would be available). However I do think the primary input method will involve touching the screen.
Performance is another reason. Pre and other smartphones get dinged for running slowly with more than a few apps open. Windows Mobile devices have notorious memory management issues with multiple devices open. Etc.
There is a market for tablets, but it is consists of pieces from the laptop, netbook and touchscreen cellphone markets, and will only get visible as actual products become readily available.
Compare it to the many new car models that are introduced frequently. I don't mean a new iteration of e.g. a 5 series BMW, but a whole new model such as the BMW X1. (take a look at the BMW website to see what I mean). This new model is a combination of a number of existing BMW models. Here the market for the X1 also didn't appear to exist before, but it was definitely there. In the markets for the models that the X1 is based on.
The same holds true for the tablet market, with one little difference. Most people will not buy two cars just because they have different features. In the case of the tablets I can see people owning laptops and tablets and using them both in different settings because of the features and advantages of each "model". I'm one of them. I can see myself at home working on my laptop, but on trips I would definitely take my tablet..
Thank you. I knew at least one of you would take up that retro "We only need computers that look good, not computers with basic functionalities that have been common place everywhere else for decades" apologist line that was the party line in the Apple fanboy base 15 years ago.
YOU don't need multi-tasking on a phone. Don't tell me what I do or don't need, because you don't know what my needs are or aren't, and thus you don't know what you're talking about. And that's my point both with this, and with the app store part of what I was saying and you were replying to.
Apple doesn't know what my needs are or aren't, and therefore should shut their pie holes about what apps I can or can't install on my devices. If the Apple Tablet is similarly closed (no matter what types of wireless networks it does or doesn't support), then it's a failure on Apple's part. No if's, and's, nor but's. No apologist tripe desired nor required.
Actually, it is their product. So they have some assumptions of what people need and how they will use it. Otherwise, it won't sell. Don't you think?
If their product doesn't fulfill your needs then it is probably not the right thing for you. As simple as that.
Actually, it does not. Apple ends their fiscal quarters a few days before the last day of the calendar month.
Fiscal Year 2010 for Apple started on September 27th; I believe Apple is already closing the books on F1Q10.
Obviously. And if they want my money, they'll satisfy my needs/goals/desires. So, they'll have an ability to install apps that aren't judged/approved by Apple, they'll have true multi-tasking, etc.
So with all these various news | rumors personally I think it bodes two devices.
One launching Spring with a 7" screen. iPhone/iPod style interface, which will also be useable as an external controller to your main mac machine with multi-touch features.
Second more advanced version launching early Fall 2010 with a 10" screen, and running OSX (otherwise why have a 10" at all) alongside the iPhone OS which runs much like InstantOn linux.
I only hope I'm somewhat accurate
One launching Spring with a 7" screen. iPhone/iPod style interface, which will also be useable as an external controller to your main mac machine with multi-touch features.
Second more advanced version launching early Fall 2010 with a 10" screen, and running OSX (otherwise why have a 10" at all) alongside the iPhone OS which runs much like InstantOn linux.
I only hope I'm somewhat accurate
So with all these various news | rumors personally I think it bodes two devices.
One launching Spring with a 7" screen. iPhone/iPod style interface, which will also be useable as an external controller to your main mac machine with multi-touch features.
Second more advanced version launching early Fall 2010 with a 10" screen, and running OSX (otherwise why have a 10" at all) alongside the iPhone OS which runs much like InstantOn linux.
I only hope I'm somewhat accurate
Sounds plausible, and makes sense - the best of both worlds, this would be.
Doesn't sound at all plausible to me. Apple already has 4 OS's to support (SL, SL Server, iPhone, Apple TV). Even though these share a lot of code, we've seen how iPhone issues interfered with SL and vice versa. I don't think Apple wants to support two more variations.
Good point - hopefully, an upscaled version of the iPhone OS will bring things closer to reaching a 'happy medium.'
I'm not talking about playing music, yes, you can play music through the ipod in the iphone in the background, but you can't use 3rd party apps for playing music (eg. spotify which gives my somewhere around 200'000 songs readliy available for a fixed streaming fee, and radio streaming apps like tuner for webcasts).
And not to mention messaging apps like flowchar irc and the like which requires a constant connection to servers and won't benefit from push.
The android can do it without ppl whining about battery or memory (atleast not more than iphone owners do)
The iphone has changed the way ppl use their phone, seems like Apple underestimated their own user base.
So with all these various news | rumors personally I think it bodes two devices.
One launching Spring with a 7" screen. iPhone/iPod style interface, which will also be useable as an external controller to your main mac machine with multi-touch features.
Second more advanced version launching early Fall 2010 with a 10" screen, and running OSX (otherwise why have a 10" at all) alongside the iPhone OS which runs much like InstantOn linux.
I only hope I'm somewhat accurate
I'd go for that too.
Last I saw/checked/heard, OS X server isn't really a different OS, it's a set of extra packages bundled into the Mac OS X platform. So, it's two different packagings of the same OS.
I've been told that AppleTV isn't much of a variation from standard OS X either. But I have no idea what CPU it runs on. Assuming it's ARM (because I don't see why they'd do it as an intel CPU), it could be that there's just two OS X's:
1) ARM -- with package variants for iPhone, iPod Touch, and AppleTV
2) x86 -- with package variants for desktop and server
Add the 7" model to group 1, and the 10" model to group 2. And if I'm wrong about AppleTV, just move it to group 2.
Lot of assumptions you're making.
Apple TV is based on Tiger on x86.
Anyway, like I said, there is a lot of shared code between the various OS's, but you are greatly underestimating the difficulty in developing, maintaining, and supporting all of these variations.
And, like I said, we've already seen Apple get into difficulty trying to simultaneously develop iphone OS and SL and delaying both.
Or maybe I know/knew people who maintained that code base back when it was simultaneously deployed on 4 different CPU families, and I have a very good idea of how well those people do at making sure that the variations are manageable.
Connectors
Light Peak ftw
what other reason to be secretive about the nature of "connectors" besides it being a major leap ahead of the rest of the industry?
I remain optimistic.
Light Peak ftw
what other reason to be secretive about the nature of "connectors" besides it being a major leap ahead of the rest of the industry?
I remain optimistic.