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Smaller bezels are likely compared to the old 12" MacBook so I wonder if the dimensions wind up the same, just with a bigger display. Could be cool.
 
Y’all think this is just going to be an A-series chip in a MBA body but it won’t. It will prob have a non-haptic trackpad, no touch id, super low res panel, and one port. It will basically be an iPad screen attached to a Magic Keyboard variant.

Everyone will complain even though it’s not for the average consumer to the point I hope Apple walls these behind purchasing accounts associated with education or similar.
 
Dev work? This is certainly not targeted at serious developers (or designers).
It’ll be for the 80% of people that browse the web, watch some music, do some “Office” work, etc.
Not all dev work is that heavy. A small laptop (12" preferably) with a full blown OS would be great. Running a browser nowadays might actually use more resources. For most of my development I need a terminal, text editor with language specific plugin, and compiler tool chain. None of that is heavier than the resource hungry web "apps" out there. I'd wait a bit longer for things to compile but that's it. Processing data may be an issue sure, but unless I run out of ram, I'd probably try that too. :p
 
And I’m sure that there will be at least a $100 discount for education.
$100 would be massive, in relative terms.

It will prob have a non-haptic trackpad, no touch id, super low res panel, and one port.
There are limits on what Apple will be willing to compromise.

Ports? Maybe. Likely even.
Touch ID? Possibly - but biometric login has become standard across their (portable) product line.

But low-res panel and „bad“ trackpad?
They still want customers to have a decent experience and upsell them later.
 
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Mac mini with an internal battery option would be better. Currently its the only thing keeping me away from buying one for my home server. It would be great for protection against electric outages. Old laptop that im using for home server right now wins this versus..
Completely different market - just get a UPS to use with the Mac mini?
 
Probably not worth it if it’s anywhere close to the $850 that the Air is most often than not, especially if sales for this one are not available. Time will tell.
 
iPad mini is $499 at those specs.
“Vanilla” iPad starts at $349, albeit with 6GB of RAM.
And A17 will be 2½ years old when this MacBook releases.

That said, I believe it could be $499 - but only after discounts.
Those have much smaller screens and no keyboards or trackpads. They are also on older A16 and A17 processors. If this is an A18 in 2025, I expect a $699-799 price. Of course, who knows what the tariff situation in the US will be for Chinese products by the time this launches. The price could be driven up to make this the “new” MacBook Air with worse specs and the same price.
 
Wondering about external display support:

👉 Does any A-series chip support external displays at full resolution?
The current A16 iPad does support playing video on external displays at full 16:9 display size. So in terms of bandwidth and different resolutions it does work. However, non-mirrored UI on a second display (like with Stage Manage) might conceivably not be an option due to limited RAM, or just for product differentiation.
 
Not all dev work is that heavy. A small laptop (12" preferably) with a full blown OS would be great. Running a browser nowadays might actually use more resources
Not disputing that. :)

But keep in mind that external display support has also been very limited on A-series chips. Developers - and Mac/iOS developers at that - will be OK with spending a $800 or $1000 on a development machine. They‘re not the target audience (I believe).

The target audience, I think, would be people „on the fence“ about whether they‘ll buy a MacBook or a Windows machine. Or a notebook at all.
 
Yay, return of the 12" macboo-

I'm out.

No compiling my code on an iPad, so I'll end up getting neither of these.
Users programming and compiling are not the targets, it's for children and users that are there just to browse and do schoolwork!
 
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The current A16 iPad does support playing video on external displays at full 16:9 display size. So in terms of bandwidth and different resolutions it does work
I was thinking of working or presenting on the external display.
 
Not all dev work is that heavy. A small laptop (12" preferably) with a full blown OS would be great. Running a browser nowadays might actually use more resources. For most of my development I need a terminal, text editor with language specific plugin, and compiler tool chain. None of that is heavier than the resource hungry web "apps" out there. I'd wait a bit longer for things to compile but that's it. Processing data may be an issue sure, but unless I run out of ram, I'd probably try that too. :p

Yes, you don't need much hardware for what can basically be a ssh/text editor terminal.

However, if you don't work alone, or even if you do work alone, all that crap that runs in a browser or instantiates a copy of chrome and pretends it's a separate application will eat all the ram in a <= 8 Gb machine rather instantly.

And even if your work only requires an editor and ssh, it may still be more convenient to run containers/vms locally.
 
For a low-cost option, I wish they could just bring back the 12" Macbook model, and stick in an M2 or M3 chip in?
I agree. Just update the specs. Great machine. I still have mine but never use it because it’s become a dinosaur.
 
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$100 would be massive, in relative terms.


There are limits on what Apple will be willing to compromise.

Ports? Maybe. Likely even.
Touch ID? Possibly - but biometric login has become standard across their (portable) product line.

But low-res panel and „bad“ trackpad?
They still want customers to have a decent experience and upsell them later.
The target is children and they already do this in their iPad lineup of keyboards so not any difference.
 
Mac mini with an internal battery option would be better. Currently its the only thing keeping me away from buying one for my home server. It would be great for protection against electric outages. Old laptop that im using for home server right now wins this versus..
There is zero market for this. Anyone using a Mac mini as a server still needs a UPS for their modem and router, so just buy a really good one and put the mini on it as well.
 
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I’m not sure this rumor really make sense. There are bound to be some serious limitations with an iPhone processor that will limit a full-fledged computer. In other words, this kind of product could leave buyers disappointed rather than excited at a low-priced option.
 
The iPad lineup has three tiers which allows the pro and air to become more expensive.
People were surprised that the MacBook Air M4 came in under $£1000. Maybe this new “cheaper” MacBook is intended to come in at $£999 so the Air can move up to 1500 and they drop the non-Pro M4 version MacBook Pro?
 
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