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I know, but look at the comment I was replying to. He/she said EDTX made "it so easy for patent trolls to file there." Filing has nothing to do with it.

As to the latter part, how favorable they are to "trolls" is debatable. There are reports from Lexology, which meticulously tracks patent case statistics, which say that final outcomes in EDTX aren't that different from the average of the rest of the country. But EDTX judges are reluctant to transfer cases, are reluctant to grant summary judgment, and have a very liberal view of discovery - all things that make the process of litigation plaintiff-friendly. But as I said at first, does any of that matter if final outcomes are still on par with other districts?

Well, yes. It matters. A lot. Even if the eventual outcome is likely to be no different, East Texas' procedural practices make the process considerably more expensive and resource-intensive for defendants. Litigation costs accrue--and accelerate--with time. Summary judgment, for example, is cheap, fast, and takes place early in the process. Getting a case dismissed via summary judgment costs a *tiny* fraction of what it takes to win at trial, or worse, win during appeals.
 
Your reading of this case is at odds with the logic of the ruling:

These facts are in contrast with those in Cordis, where it was clear that the place of business was established by Cordis. Cordis’s business specifically depended on employees being physically present at places in the district, and it was undisputable that Cordis affirmatively acted to make permanent operations within that district to service its customers there.”

Even without the two retail stores and the employees, Apple has tens of thousands of customers in the court's district and it services those customers in exactly the manner of the Cordis example.
 
I hate how this is the solution. I would of loved to see them just shrink those courts area of influences as this hurts the DFW area.

The reason companies started going there in the first place was to get quicker, more technically savvy judgements, than they could get around DFW.

I believe that TI (and no one would call them a troll) was among the first to use the East District long ago, because DFW courts were / are slammed with drug cases.
 
Your reading of this case is at odds with the logic of the ruling:

These facts are in contrast with those in Cordis, where it was clear that the place of business was established by Cordis. Cordis’s business specifically depended on employees being physically present at places in the district, and it was undisputable that Cordis affirmatively acted to make permanent operations within that district to service its customers there.”

Even without the two retail stores and the employees, Apple has tens of thousands of customers in the court's district and it services those customers in exactly the manner of the Cordis example.
Yeah, except the case and others including tc heartland say you have to have a physical presence in the district. You need to have employees and operations physically present in the district, even according to what you cited.
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Your reading of this case is at odds with the logic of the ruling:

These facts are in contrast with those in Cordis, where it was clear that the place of business was established by Cordis. Cordis’s business specifically depended on employees being physically present at places in the district, and it was undisputable that Cordis affirmatively acted to make permanent operations within that district to service its customers there.”

Even without the two retail stores and the employees, Apple has tens of thousands of customers in the court's district and it services those customers in exactly the manner of the Cordis example.

“The statute requires a place, i.e., [a] building or a part of a building set apart for any purpose or quarters of any kind from which business is conducted. William Dwight Whitney, The Century Dictionary, 732 (Benjamin E. Smith, ed. 1911); see also Place, Blacks Law Dictionary (1st ed. 1891) (defining place as a locality, limited by boundaries). The statute thus cannot be read to refer merely to a virtual space or to electronic communications from one person to another. ” In re: Cray Inc., 871 F.3d 1355, 1362 (Fed.Cir. 2017)

“While the place need not be a fixed physical presence in the sense of a formal office or store, Cordis, 769 F.2d at 737, there must still be a physical, geographical location in the district from which the business of the defendant is carried out. ” In re: Cray Inc., 871 F.3d 1355, 1362 (Fed.Cir. 2017)

“Accordingly, while a business can certainly move its location, it must for a meaningful time period be stable, established. On the other hand, if an employee can move his or her home out of the district at his or her own instigation, without the approval of the defendant, that would cut against the employees home being considered a place of business of the defendant. ” In re: Cray Inc., 871 F.3d 1355, 1363 (Fed.Cir. 2017)

“Finally, the third requirement when determining venue is that the regular and established place of business must be the place of the defendant. As the statute indicates, it must be a place of the defendant, not solely a place of the defendants employee. Employees change jobs. Thus, the defendant must establish or ratify the place of business. It is not enough that the employee does so on his or her own.
Relevant considerations include whether the defendant owns or leases the place, or exercises other attributes of possession or control over the place. One can also recognize that a small business might operate from a home; if that is a place of business of the defendant, that can be a place of business satisfying the requirement of the statute. ” In re: Cray Inc., 871 F.3d 1355, 1363 (Fed.Cir. 2017)
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The reason companies started going there in the first place was to get quicker, more technically savvy judgements, than they could get around DFW.

I believe that TI (and no one would call them a troll) was among the first to use the East District long ago, because DFW courts were / are slammed with drug cases.
This is true. But that’s ancient history. People don’t go there because of the speed nowadays. If speed was the primary consideration they’d file suit in the eastern district of Virginia or central district of California.
 
Your reading of this case is at odds with the logic of the ruling:

These facts are in contrast with those in Cordis, where it was clear that the place of business was established by Cordis. Cordis’s business specifically depended on employees being physically present at places in the district, and it was undisputable that Cordis affirmatively acted to make permanent operations within that district to service its customers there.”

Even without the two retail stores and the employees, Apple has tens of thousands of customers in the court's district and it services those customers in exactly the manner of the Cordis example.

The decision in Cordis wasn't based on Cordis having customers in Minnesota. It was based on Cordis having employees and support for those employees in Minnesota.

Shipping products to customers in a district, or third-party retailers selling your products to customers in that district, isn't enough to demonstrate that you have a regular and established place of business in that district.
 
“Apple did not provide a specific reason for the store closures beyond consolidation.”

So are fake newsing now? So the whole article was based off of speculation on whatever the author wanted is to believe?

Pathetic.
 
“Apple did not provide a specific reason for the store closures beyond consolidation.”

So are fake newsing now? So the whole article was based off of speculation on whatever the author wanted is to believe?

Pathetic.

Looking at the map, understanding that the case law about venue changed very recently, and taking into account that apple is sued for patent infringement more than any other company, it doesn’t require ESP to figure out what apple was thinking here.
 
Hmm... so the reason given is provided by "sources." Apple has officially only said they are consolidating stores. If you read all the comments below, the people that actually live near and use those stores say they like going there because they are "less crowded" than other nearby stores. Would not that suggest that this decision could have nothing to do with litigation? That they could wish to bolster the more crowded stores, and eliminate less busy ones...?
 
Hmm... so the reason given is provided by "sources." Apple has officially only said they are consolidating stores. If you read all the comments below, the people that actually live near and use those stores say they like going there because they are "less crowded" than other nearby stores. Would not that suggest that this decision could have nothing to do with litigation? That they could wish to bolster the more crowded stores, and eliminate less busy ones...?
Seem very unlikely that they are evening out the crowds by closing stores and replacing with a single new one. Plus when has apple ever closed multiple stores in an area before and replaced them with a single store (that just happens to be across the invisible line between judicial districts).

Apple clearly did this to get out of EDTex, and they were smart to do so.
 
I would feel safer driving in Beirut than in downtown Dallas,TX.
It’s not like those are located in the heart of Downtown. Northpark is one of the richest places in America.

Mark Cuban, Ross Perot, and George Bush have houses there as well as several other billionaires.

Cuban’s house is $35M. This is not a slum.

Dallas obviously has crime as a major city does, but Apple Stores aren’t in the bad areas of Dallas, just like in other Major cities.
 
Seem very unlikely that they are evening out the crowds by closing stores and replacing with a single new one. Plus when has apple ever closed multiple stores in an area before and replaced them with a single store (that just happens to be across the invisible line between judicial districts).

Apple clearly did this to get out of EDTex, and they were smart to do so.

Yea, you are probably right. I'm just trying to think of all possibilities.
 
I haven't set foot in Galleria Dallas in almost 10 years. Apple should have located the new store here in Addison, which is also not in the Eastern district of Texas. Our demographics are great, and there are a lot of places where an Apple store would thrive. Village on the Parkway would have been a perfect location, and also the area around where I live, the Addison Circle district. Addison is about 3.5 miles north of Galleria, and about 6 miles south of where Apple Willow Bend is now. The Dallas North Tollway runs right through the town, making for easy access to the store. Galleria has horrible parking, and unless Apple locates the store in a part of the mall where we can have access to it without having to make a long trek in and out of the mall, I simply won't ever go there.
 
I haven't set foot in Galleria Dallas in almost 10 years. Apple should have located the new store here in Addison, which is also not in the Eastern district of Texas. Our demographics are great, and there are a lot of places where an Apple store would thrive. Village on the Parkway would have been a perfect location, and also the area around where I live, the Addison Circle district. Addison is about 3.5 miles north of Galleria, and about 6 miles south of where Apple Willow Bend is now. The Dallas North Tollway runs right through the town, making for easy access to the store. Galleria has horrible parking, and unless Apple locates the store in a part of the mall where we can have access to it without having to make a long trek in and out of the mall, I simply won't ever go there.

Good. That will reduce the crowds.
 
It’s not like those are located in the heart of Downtown. Northpark is one of the richest places in America.

Mark Cuban, Ross Perot, and George Bush have houses there as well as several other billionaires.

Cuban’s house is $35M. This is not a slum.

Dallas obviously has crime as a major city does, but Apple Stores aren’t in the bad areas of Dallas, just like in other Major cities.

I can’t think of many reasons to visit Dallas...
 
Well, bummer. The Willow Bend store is the one I always go to. It's definitely not due to a lack of business, because it's always crazy busy when I visit. I wish they would open one at Firewheel Town Center in Garland.
 
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