Lots of unwarranted assumptions. No reason why a custom chip wouldn't be able to run Windows or existing apps. People have run windows on Raspberry PIs and Commodore 64s.
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Apple Plans to Ditch Intel and Use Custom Mac Chips Starting in 2020
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Lots of unwarranted assumptions. No reason why a custom chip wouldn't be able to run Windows or existing apps. People have run windows on Raspberry PIs and Commodore 64s.
Well this explains why the new Mac Pro is just an Apple Watch without the option for bands.
Windows is severely limited on ARM. From Microsoft's support page:
Only ARM64 drivers are supported (how many devices have ARM64 drivers? .1%?)
x64 apps are not supported (Ouch...)
OpenGL later than 1.1 doesn't work (Current version of OpenGL is 4.x)
Certain games don’t work given the issues with OpenGL and DirectX
The Windows Hypervisor Platform is not supported on ARM. Running any virtual machines using Hyper-V on an ARM device will not work.
Windows on ARM is DOA just like the Surface RT was.
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Im just happy its two years off, at least. Hopefully I can creak by until I retire in 5 years on my intel mac so I wont have to deal with the huge misery that is coming for anyone that actually creates work product on their mac.
Related to that little girl who didn't know what a computer was?
What are your thoughts on this story, 69?
Well, it was just launched, it might greatly improve with added functionality by 2020.
Apple’s move to X86 is what made the Mac finally popular. Moving away would be a poor decision on Apple’s part that would not end well.
Good thing they have time to get it figured out. Ultimately, I could care less if they have boot camp, but I am sure they'd like to. We'll see.
So how does this affect the module mac pro system that's been in Timmy's pipeline? Years ago they said they were working on it, we're all expecting news on it this year.
So what, they're going to release a new line of Intel Mac Pros in the next year or so only to kill it by 2020. Or we can no wait another 2 years for any news on the Mac Pro?
Apple really is a ship adrift without a captain. They have no clue where they're going or what they're doing. They're just aimlessly reacting and saying whatever lies they need to to get critics off their back that quarter with no concern about the tangled web they're weaving.
So what, they're going to release a new line of Intel Mac Pros in the next year or so only to kill it by 2020. Or we can no wait another 2 years for any news on the Mac Pro?
Apple really is a ship adrift without a captain. They have no clue where they're going or what they're doing. They're just aimlessly reacting and saying whatever lies they need to to get critics off their back that quarter with no concern about the tangled web they're weaving.
I'm not a chip expert, but it is surprising that Apple and other ARM companies are able to create chips that can perform at the same or better than x86 chips considering how long of a lead Intel and AMD have had in their technology. There is a shift in the paradigm (moving from single core to multi-cores, and really the decrease in importance of some processing needs since things shift to multi-core and the GPU), but Intel and AMD probably have taken their eyes off the ball to allow this happen.
Also, no reason why VMs won't be able to run on Apples new ARM chips, so I think compatibility won't be an issue.
Also, no reason why VMs won't be able to run on Apples new ARM chips, so I think compatibility won't be an issue.
Apple hasn't in the past, no reason to change . I think Apple believes no matter what preview access they give 3rd developers, those 3rd parties are unlikely to drop and change to be on apple's timeline. So that is why they have provided emulators as the temporary solution in the past.
Way back in the late 80's and early 90's some third party and I think Apple too, did this already, it died very quickly.
Only ARM64 drivers are supported (how many devices have ARM64 drivers? .1%?)
- Not an issue for Apple
x64 apps are not supported (Ouch...)
- Apple will support 64 bit only by 2020, I suppose they have developed AMD64 to ARM64 translator or something. Microsoft supports many obscure archaic things, which makes them many troubles.
OpenGL later than 1.1 doesn't work (Current version of OpenGL is 4.x)
- Apple could resolve it or drop OpenCL for Metal / adopt Vulcan.
The Windows Hypervisor Platform is not supported on ARM. Running any virtual machines using Hyper-V on an ARM device will not work.
- Two years are not that few for some progress in this area.
They have time to make it better, but things are already moving in that direction.
They are going to start in 2 years if the rumor is true. I doubt the transition would be very quick. If this is true we will find out more information at WWDC.
My opinion: Intel's processors on the high end outstrip the ARM offerings. Example: the Xeon in the iMac Pro is far more powerful in terms of cores and speed than anything ARM could offer. Another example would be the 4 ghz+ i7 chip in the iMac on the high end. Honestly, half the reason I have a Mac anymore is because it can also run Windows with no compromise. If they do this, I'm done. I've already gone through one painful transition, I won't do a second. Ugh.
That is one POV. TBH, I'm done with anything from Microsoft. After more than 25 years I said enough is enough.
My computing these days is a MacBook Pro and a number of Raspberry Pi's.
I didn't realise this had happened. Thankfully, ssh and sftp work. Maybe that was the point?
Poor Intel. I hope there is the possibility of having Intel chips in a particular system long term, instead of replacing it with RISCs completely.