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Apple Plans to Ditch Intel and Use Custom Mac Chips Starting in 2020
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I actually bought a pre Intel Mac, just to see what it was like (the Mini). But I never considered it for my primary computer until the Intel models came out capable enough for my use. And then it was the 2008 Mac Pro since the iMacs didn't support more than 4GB of RAM.
For my usage (being able to run Windows in a VM, etc), I would think it would be a step backward unless the performance was enough greater that it could run emulation at speed.
The fact it would kill the Hackintosh market, while admittedly probably pretty small, wouldn't be a factor, would it?
Those are two different groups of people dancing. The ones dancing now are most likely Apple investors.
But not the Windows apps people care about. It isn't just the Office/Edge that people care about. It is all the niche programs that people carry around that are an issue. Look at how long Microsoft had to support the 16 bit Windows and DOS apps (finally dropped in 64 bit Windows). Look at how many iterations of technologies Microsoft has introduced and had to maintain.
Apple is more successful in dropping old stuff.
I saw this coming when they released the benchmarks of the iPhone X Bionic chip.
I see their custom chips going into the consumer products...iMacs and Macbooks. But the pro lineup will probably still use intel chips. I can't see pro customers going for anything else.
I see their custom chips going into the consumer products...iMacs and Macbooks. But the pro lineup will probably still use intel chips. I can't see pro customers going for anything else.
I remember the transition from the 6502 II machines to the 68k Macs. In a way the II is still my dream machine.
Oh god I hope not. Apps on iOS are too simplistic. However a mouse on iOS would be great. Like them or not, touch screens are an inefficient (although convenient) input device. Mice are more accurate over fingers, plus placing your hands in front of the screen isn't ideal.
not sure i want to go through this again. at least with Intel there were clear advantages. this could be thing that pushes me to switch, which i've been considering for a while, while waiting for a new mac pro to be released.
as a musician i'll miss Logic (apple's purchase of which caused me switch from a Dell desktop to a G4 Titanium in 2002.) but i can probably live without it if i'm honest, due to working more outside the computer anyway these days. but as a game dev (the other half of what i use Macs for) things have never really been much bleaker.
as a musician i'll miss Logic (apple's purchase of which caused me switch from a Dell desktop to a G4 Titanium in 2002.) but i can probably live without it if i'm honest, due to working more outside the computer anyway these days. but as a game dev (the other half of what i use Macs for) things have never really been much bleaker.
From what I have seen, Apple has been the one slow to upgrade their machines, and it has not been because Intel has lagged. It is easy to build a hackintosh that outperforms native Apple hardware.
Apple has a lot of experience in architectual changes when it comes to CPUs. 680xx > PowerPC > Intel. However this is a very foolish move IMO. Like has been mentioned, Intel has the fabrication know how; Apple is going to have to rely on others unless they plan on building a fabrication warehouse. It isn't like Apple doesn't have the money though.
Apple has a lot of experience in architectual changes when it comes to CPUs. 680xx > PowerPC > Intel. However this is a very foolish move IMO. Like has been mentioned, Intel has the fabrication know how; Apple is going to have to rely on others unless they plan on building a fabrication warehouse. It isn't like Apple doesn't have the money though.
I doubt this is true, but if it is then it pretty much sounds the death knell for any and all pro-like applications for the Mac OS (but I would guess that is nothing new, in terms of direction for Apple). I could almost see Apple switching to an A-series processor for something like a Chromebook, small, low-powered, long battery life, modest performance and built for the masses (i.e. web browsing and media consumption).
Seems like a Mac built on an A-series processor would simple be an iPad Pro with an integrated keyboard and do we really need that? Then, a Mac Pro built on an A-series processor? Not likely.
Seems like a Mac built on an A-series processor would simple be an iPad Pro with an integrated keyboard and do we really need that? Then, a Mac Pro built on an A-series processor? Not likely.
I actually bought a pre Intel Mac, just to see what it was like (the Mini). But I never considered it for my primary computer until the Intel models came out capable enough for my use. And then it was the 2008 Mac Pro since the iMacs didn't support more than 4GB of RAM.
For my usage (being able to run Windows in a VM, etc), I would think it would be a step backward unless the performance was enough greater that it could run emulation at speed.
The fact it would kill the Hackintosh market, while admittedly probably pretty small, wouldn't be a factor, would it?
This could be a driving factor, as I said above, it is easy to build a hack that outperforms native Apple hardware.
Called this a couple of years ago here on MR but got laughed out of the door.
Thanks guys.
Thanks guys.
That sort of an iPad Pro is exactly what Apple needs. Chromebooks are eroding the traditional laptop market. Apple can’t afford to let Google have such an unanswered attack on their ecosystem.
It's not like Adobe and Microsoft have a choice. They always come around at the end.
Super skeptical that this will be a good move. Being able to efficiently run Windows apps in a VM and being able to run Windows games natively is pretty important to me. I really don't want to return to the dark days of PowerPC when barely anything runs on OS X. Yeah, I know this will mean that all the iOS games will be able to run on Macs ... could care less ... I don't really care for those games.
Last time I used PowerPoint for Mac it didn’t have feature parity with the Windows version related to the equation editor exporting to other formats.
Not really. Just a little over a year ago, many if not most Apple aficionados still didn't think it's possible. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ouchscreen-macs.2040426/page-17#post-24479386
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Couldn't find the MacRumors post where you called it. Would be awesome if you did. I thought I was one of the very first to call it.